Taking car for a "blast" down motorway/dual carriageway.

Taking car for a "blast" down motorway/dual carriageway.

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S1bolger

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41 posts

87 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Hello,
Someone told me today that taking your car for a "blast" down a motorway while revving the engine to the near limit can help your car run better. Is this true? Also, in what way can this help your car?

Thanks.

Tuvra

7,920 posts

225 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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On diesel cars it's supposed to clear the DPF isn't it?

benjijames28

1,702 posts

92 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Otherwise known as an Italian tune up. Getting the engine really going revving through the gears after warming the car up. It's suppose to clear a lot of st out of your engine, does it work? I don't know, but my cars always feel smoother after a good run.

In a diesel car it's said getting it up to speed on the motorway and maintaining for 20 minutes or so will set your dpf filter to regenerate and burn off all the soot.

trickywoo

11,744 posts

230 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Works better with 'old' tech copper plugs and carbs. Generally flushes out crud and burns off any plug fouling.

It won't make much difference to a modern FI engine with iridium plugs.

hondansx

4,566 posts

225 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Was a solution for the B7 RS4 V8, was it not? If you drove it like a pansy they clogged up.

Steven_RW

1,728 posts

202 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Direct Injection cars don't tend to have much fuel in the inlet tract on the basis they inject fuel direct into the cylinder.

They do however re-circulate their oily breather gases through the inlet tract like most cars.

The lack of fuel in the inlet tract means the oily ming builds up in the ports and on the back of the inlet valves.

Some scavenging of fuel out of the cylinder into the inlet tract probably happens when you give it full blast. Sooo.. you could technically suggest that giving them a blast does clean up their performance as you help clean up the ports.

Some Audis definitely do suffer from this clogging up inlet issue.

RW

lee_erm

1,091 posts

193 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Works a treat on my carb'd bike if it's been sat a while.

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Steven_RW said:
Direct Injection cars don't tend to have much fuel in the inlet tract on the basis they inject fuel direct into the cylinder.

They do however re-circulate their oily breather gases through the inlet tract like most cars.

The lack of fuel in the inlet tract means the oily ming builds up in the ports and on the back of the inlet valves.

Some scavenging of fuel out of the cylinder into the inlet tract probably happens when you give it full blast. Sooo.. you could technically suggest that giving them a blast does clean up their performance as you help clean up the ports.

Some Audis definitely do suffer from this clogging up inlet issue.

RW
I can't remember where I read it, but there was talk of running a DI engine at 3000rpm for 20 minutes. Something to do with getting the intake valve temperature up to 380 deg C, which was found to 'burn off' the carbon. So yeah, 'Italian tune up' then!

Thing is though, how the hell do you keep an engine above 3000rpm for 20 minutes these days, in this country? Impossible. I tried it once and even dropping down to 4th gear, I couldn't maintain it because of people driving like slugs.

V88Dicky

7,304 posts

183 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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SuperchargedVR6 said:
I can't remember where I read it, but there was talk of running a DI engine at 3000rpm for 20 minutes. Something to do with getting the intake valve temperature up to 380 deg C, which was found to 'burn off' the carbon. So yeah, 'Italian tune up' then!

Thing is though, how the hell do you keep an engine above 3000rpm for 20 minutes these days, in this country? Impossible. I tried it once and even dropping down to 4th gear, I couldn't maintain it because of people driving like slugs.
It's easy on my daily driver / shed. 70mph is 3500 rpm hehe

Coincidentally, it's maximum torque is at those revs too.

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Last night at 11pm I drove home from Aylesbury to Romford. It took an hour. Most if not all of that was at or above 70mph which in my mr2 turbo in 5th gear is about 3100rpm. It's easy to stretch the legs of your car on our roads at night.

scubadude

2,618 posts

197 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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danllama said:
I drove home from Aylesbury to Romford.
My condolences...


Sorry- that did make me think, about a decade ago early New Years Day I drove from Aylesbury to nr Romford in the early hours. Full Warp drive engaged, car was purring sweet as she'd ever been, traffic was moving out of my way, I was so chuffed.

Then the oil light came on in lane 3 at the M25/M11 junction, I made it to lane 1 by the time the engine died, when I rolled to halt in the hard shoulder there was an actual loud belching sounds and large what I can only call blobs of engine/oil/gearbox parts where vomiting onto the tarmac all stuck together and steaming. It was like an Alien had bled into the torque converter.


My point- well its tenuous, but by all means take your car for a long blast but beware that an hour+ at Warp 10+ in a road car might be outside what the coolant and lubrication systems can handle despite whatever credentials you believe the car has :-)

trickywoo

11,744 posts

230 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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scubadude said:
blobs of engine/oil/gearbox parts where vomiting onto the tarmac all stuck together and steaming. It was like an Alien had bled into the torque converter.
Can't think of a car with shared automatic gearbox and engine oil so must have been an epic failure of engine or gearbox punching holes in the casing of the other. Impressive.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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trickywoo said:
Can't think of a car with shared automatic gearbox and engine oil so must have been an epic failure of engine or gearbox punching holes in the casing of the other. Impressive.
Mini

trickywoo

11,744 posts

230 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
trickywoo said:
Can't think of a car with shared automatic gearbox and engine oil so must have been an epic failure of engine or gearbox punching holes in the casing of the other. Impressive.
Mini
With an auto? I know the A Series manual shares the engine oil but is the auto the same?

It'd be a good quiz question?

66mpg

651 posts

107 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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AP automatic in a Mini is in the sump and uses lubricating oil. No ATF.

trickywoo

11,744 posts

230 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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66mpg said:
AP automatic in a Mini is in the sump and uses lubricating oil. No ATF.
Thanks. Interesting.

Anything else do that too?

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

132 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
trickywoo said:
Can't think of a car with shared automatic gearbox and engine oil so must have been an epic failure of engine or gearbox punching holes in the casing of the other. Impressive.
Mini
Maxi and Allegro had them too.

Dad had Minis and Maxis over the years. 1st 4 speed auto I can remember. All other cars made do with three.

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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scubadude said:
danllama said:
I drove home from Aylesbury to Romford.
My condolences...


Sorry- that did make me think, about a decade ago early New Years Day I drove from Aylesbury to nr Romford in the early hours. Full Warp drive engaged, car was purring sweet as she'd ever been, traffic was moving out of my way, I was so chuffed.

Then the oil light came on in lane 3 at the M25/M11 junction, I made it to lane 1 by the time the engine died, when I rolled to halt in the hard shoulder there was an actual loud belching sounds and large what I can only call blobs of engine/oil/gearbox parts where vomiting onto the tarmac all stuck together and steaming. It was like an Alien had bled into the torque converter.


My point- well its tenuous, but by all means take your car for a long blast but beware that an hour+ at Warp 10+ in a road car might be outside what the coolant and lubrication systems can handle despite whatever credentials you believe the car has :-)
Romford isn't my first choice of residence in all fairness, but needs must biggrin Surely a well maintained car will purr along on a clear motorway all day long, with no external forces coming into play? I've never been left on the side of the road by one of my mr2's, bar a tyre blowing out which was caused by debris left in the tyre by the fitter. Sorry to hear about your misfortune though, I guess random mechanical failure could happen to anyone at any time.

Conscript

1,378 posts

121 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Sorted an EGR valve error on our X-Trail doing this a couple of years ago. Kept getting an EML with the code something to do with EGR valve sticking open. I would clear the code, then it would return a few weeks later. Tried spraying a can of EGR cleaning stuff into the inlet manifold, that didn't sort it.

One evening it came on while I was driving on the motorway, I got annoyed. Ensured the engine was warm, dropped a gear and floored the throttle. Big cloud of black smoke out of the exhaust. Repeated the same a few more times but in a higher gear with the throttle wide open, each time a bit less smoke. After the engine was stopped and restarted, the EML was gone and it never came back. That was about 2 years ago biggrin

EazyDuz

2,013 posts

108 months

Monday 16th January 2017
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Is the idea to hit the limiter for a few seconds, back off, then repeat?