The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol 3
Discussion
Cyclist COULD have moved over a bit but is under no obligation to do so and as has been pointed out, the car would have had to wait all of another few seconds, and even if it was longer it still doesn't mean they can barge through and hit the guy.
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Edited by Big Al. on Sunday 26th March 22:17
robbiekhan said:
MLM episode from Welshdrive: https://youtu.be/02yqgqoCkfg
The recent law update to using a phone whilst driving got nation wide media coverage, yet MLMs are much more infuriating and more common. Perhaps equal focus needs to be put this issue?
A depressing videoThe recent law update to using a phone whilst driving got nation wide media coverage, yet MLMs are much more infuriating and more common. Perhaps equal focus needs to be put this issue?
GTIAlex said:
A depressing video
Don't get why 4.30 is included, this is in Taunton, the Mondeo is there because he is taking 3rd exit at the roundabout soon after this. In fact it would help if more people taking both 2nd and 3rd exit would use the outside too, as Priory ave has two lanes exiting; every morning I get stuck and can't turn left when East Reach is completely clear due to the short queue of traffic to go straight across.
Edited by mizx on Sunday 26th March 21:48
BlackLabel said:
How embarrassing! At least they weren't hurt though.GTIAlex said:
robbiekhan said:
MLM episode from Welshdrive: https://youtu.be/02yqgqoCkfg
The recent law update to using a phone whilst driving got nation wide media coverage, yet MLMs are much more infuriating and more common. Perhaps equal focus needs to be put this issue?
A depressing videoThe recent law update to using a phone whilst driving got nation wide media coverage, yet MLMs are much more infuriating and more common. Perhaps equal focus needs to be put this issue?
If a lane hogger is driving at or above the speed limit the police will be more interested in going after those wanting to overtake to charge them with speeding because arguably they're a danger while the lane hogger is only an inconvenience, and a lane hogger doing the speed limit is only inconveniencing those wanting to brake the law.
I don't find the scenario of someone bimbling along in the overtaking lane, below the speed limit, with no one in sight to overtake that common. The usual scenario is a queue of traffic extending back from people who are overtaking with no one wanting to relinquish their place to overtake in turn. Come up behind a queue like that and you have three options, join it and sit in the overtaking lane with nothing alongside you on your inside and be an apparent lane hogger yourself, move left and pass those in front on the inside and push into the queue when you reach the slower traffic directly ahead in the left lane or move left, hold your place and hope that when you reach the slower traffic you'll be allowed to move back out. With the last option it's likely no one will because the overtaking lane will have probably started moving much faster as people are getting through the bottleneck and the people in it will see you as an inside lane loser who will hold them up if they let you pull out.
In these kinds of scenarios where people are simply following traffic in front it will be very difficult for the police to make any charge of lane hogging stick and people who think they're not lane hoggers and everyone else is may well end up charged with it themselves if it was enforced in the way they're calling for it to be.
There is the notion of common sense though, when overtaking. I have never seen anyone, or know anyone who has been pulled over for overtaking someone above 70MPH, and I myself have overtaken a slew of traffic on the left with traffic police among them and never been pulled over.
Likewise I have seen traffic police overtake traffic I'm in and they're doing over 70MPH (My cruise is on 75MPH on the neele which is 70MPH GPS).
As I say, it's common sense. If the road conditions allow for it and you're driving safely and in full control, then the chances of being pulled over at a higher speed than 70MPH is very very slim. The traffic police are highly trained to spot people flaunting the rules of the road and will know the type of drivers to keep an eye on, whilst using basic common sense to let those going slightly higher to overtake, do so safely.
People all too often get caught up in the speed "limit", and the "fast/overtaking lane" instead of just focusing on surroundings and just employing driving experience to make safe progress whatever the speed.
The highway code is very simple in this respect. It states to keep left unless overtaking. It can't really be any clearer than that!
Likewise I have seen traffic police overtake traffic I'm in and they're doing over 70MPH (My cruise is on 75MPH on the neele which is 70MPH GPS).
As I say, it's common sense. If the road conditions allow for it and you're driving safely and in full control, then the chances of being pulled over at a higher speed than 70MPH is very very slim. The traffic police are highly trained to spot people flaunting the rules of the road and will know the type of drivers to keep an eye on, whilst using basic common sense to let those going slightly higher to overtake, do so safely.
People all too often get caught up in the speed "limit", and the "fast/overtaking lane" instead of just focusing on surroundings and just employing driving experience to make safe progress whatever the speed.
The highway code is very simple in this respect. It states to keep left unless overtaking. It can't really be any clearer than that!
Edited by robbiekhan on Sunday 26th March 23:13
robbiekhan said:
MLM episode from Welshdrive: https://youtu.be/02yqgqoCkfg
The recent law update to using a phone whilst driving got nation wide media coverage, yet MLMs are much more infuriating and more common. Perhaps equal focus needs to be put this issue?
It is depressingly common... I feel the UK has allowed stupidity and ignorance to exist and spread like a plague... so many of these people live in a bubble world often only communicating through a screen... We really need a fleet of unmarked police cars pulling these people and fining them... I'm sure only a few days work will pay for several new unmarked cars and easily pay the wages of the personnel involved across each police force region.. I would welcome police forces being able to keep fines for this sort of work.The recent law update to using a phone whilst driving got nation wide media coverage, yet MLMs are much more infuriating and more common. Perhaps equal focus needs to be put this issue?
The stretch of the M4 from the Severn Bridge to Cowbridge is a prime example, pretty much any time of day you will encounter drivers who sit religiously in lanes 2 and 3 without any traffic being to their left... Also this stretch of motorway seems to be full of drivers who join the motorway and carve their way to lane 3 believing that having the orange flashy thing switched on gives them total right of way over anything else behind them.
I guess the only saving grace is that it means I can make progress from the Coldra to the Bryngas tunnels, when the 40mph limit is being enforced, by staying in lane 1 ... the vast majority of people appear to be happy sitting in lanes 2 and 3 queuing while those of us in lane 1 happily move along and merging in to lane 2 when the motorway does become 2 lanes just before the tunnels....
mizx said:
yes:
Don't get why 4.30 is included, this is in Taunton, the Mondeo is there because he is taking 3rd exit at the roundabout soon after this. In fact it would help if more people taking both 2nd and 3rd exit would use the outside too, as Priory ave has two lanes exiting; every morning I get stuck and can't turn left when East Reach is completely clear due to the short queue of traffic to go straight across.
Whilst I sympathize with you I disagree. It is a fair distance to the inevitable que at the Wicks roundabout. Too many muppets come through the Creach Castle lights in lane 2 and bumble along in lane 2, it has got noticeably worse since the decrease in the speed limit. The only thing that car could have done to redeem themselves would have been had their right hand indicator on.Don't get why 4.30 is included, this is in Taunton, the Mondeo is there because he is taking 3rd exit at the roundabout soon after this. In fact it would help if more people taking both 2nd and 3rd exit would use the outside too, as Priory ave has two lanes exiting; every morning I get stuck and can't turn left when East Reach is completely clear due to the short queue of traffic to go straight across.
Edited by mizx on Sunday 26th March 21:48
The good news is it will get far worse when the NIDR finally opens.
I regularly drive on the M6 through Staffordshire, there are loads of times when I have been able to stay on the inside land for 15-20 minutes passing traffic in lands 2 and 3. They just seem totally oblivious to land discipline and just follow the car in front like some sort of retarded sheep
PF62 said:
imdeman87 said:
Latest Exposed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvVId78XKgM
Amused by the dashcam idiot at 3.20, zooming over the two sets of 'slow' road markings down the narrow road and then surprised by the bus.Dixy said:
mizx said:
yes:
Don't get why 4.30 is included, this is in Taunton, the Mondeo is there because he is taking 3rd exit at the roundabout soon after this. In fact it would help if more people taking both 2nd and 3rd exit would use the outside too, as Priory ave has two lanes exiting; every morning I get stuck and can't turn left when East Reach is completely clear due to the short queue of traffic to go straight across.
Whilst I sympathize with you I disagree. It is a fair distance to the inevitable que at the Wicks roundabout. Too many muppets come through the Creach Castle lights in lane 2 and bumble along in lane 2, it has got noticeably worse since the decrease in the speed limit. The only thing that car could have done to redeem themselves would have been had their right hand indicator on.Don't get why 4.30 is included, this is in Taunton, the Mondeo is there because he is taking 3rd exit at the roundabout soon after this. In fact it would help if more people taking both 2nd and 3rd exit would use the outside too, as Priory ave has two lanes exiting; every morning I get stuck and can't turn left when East Reach is completely clear due to the short queue of traffic to go straight across.
Edited by mizx on Sunday 26th March 21:48
The good news is it will get far worse when the NIDR finally opens.
Munter said:
That whole stretch is less than a mile. You'll probably spend longer stop/start in the queue than flowing traffic. So the difference between someone doing 35 with you behind them, and 40 with you behind them is precisely nothing. You'll end up in the same position, in the same queue, and get to the roundabout at the same point in time.
Yep thats what all members of the lane 2 owners club say.blueg33 said:
I regularly drive on the M6 through Staffordshire, there are loads of times when I have been able to stay on the inside land for 15-20 minutes passing traffic in lands 2 and 3. They just seem totally oblivious to land discipline and just follow the car in front like some sort of retarded sheep
Don't sheep merely occupy whichever land the farmer puts them on? 
PF62 said:
imdeman87 said:
Latest Exposed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvVId78XKgM
Amused by the dashcam idiot at 3.20, zooming over the two sets of 'slow' road markings down the narrow road and then surprised by the bus.t themselves!!!! Close overtake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GWEvYVwjiQ
Camera car didn't seem to ease off or move over that much!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GWEvYVwjiQ
Camera car didn't seem to ease off or move over that much!
JamesRF said:
Close overtake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GWEvYVwjiQ
Camera car didn't seem to ease off or move over that much!
Even if the camera car had eased off there is no way that driver was cancelling their overtake. That driver pulled a stupid and dangerous manoeuvre and should have backed off when she realised she wouldn't make it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GWEvYVwjiQ
Camera car didn't seem to ease off or move over that much!
It always surprises me that people on here who are supposed good/advanced/god like drivers will happily have a go and nitpick driving in clips like this with only 50% of the required information. What was behind the camera car? Could he have safely cut his speed down? We don't know. Doesn't negate the fact that the overtaking vehicle is at fault.
ashleyman said:
Even if the camera car had eased off there is no way that driver was cancelling their overtake. That driver pulled a stupid and dangerous manoeuvre and should have backed off when she realised she wouldn't make it.
It always surprises me that people on here who are supposed good/advanced/god like drivers will happily have a go and nitpick driving in clips like this with only 50% of the required information. What was behind the camera car? Could he have safely cut his speed down? We don't know. Doesn't negate the fact that the overtaking vehicle is at fault.
Christ, did you get into work this morning and find a gigantic turd on your desk or something? Talk about over reaction.It always surprises me that people on here who are supposed good/advanced/god like drivers will happily have a go and nitpick driving in clips like this with only 50% of the required information. What was behind the camera car? Could he have safely cut his speed down? We don't know. Doesn't negate the fact that the overtaking vehicle is at fault.
I wasn't deflecting the blame on to the camera car at all, pretty clear that the other driver has a death wish and should have their license torn up. I was merely pointing out that the cam car almost seemed ''unfazed'' by the car coming straight at them considering it was in clear view for quite a while.
My first reaction was that I was surprised they didn't use a bit more of the carriageway, I wasn't nit-picking at their driving though. If anything the clip shows they remained calm and gave just enough room to avoid a collision rather than the unnecessary panic we often see.
JamesRF said:
Christ, did you get into work this morning and find a gigantic turd on your desk or something? Talk about over reaction.
I wasn't deflecting the blame on to the camera car at all, pretty clear that the other driver has a death wish and should have their license torn up. I was merely pointing out that the cam car almost seemed ''unfazed'' by the car coming straight at them considering it was in clear view for quite a while.
My first reaction was that I was surprised they didn't use a bit more of the carriageway, I wasn't nit-picking at their driving though. If anything the clip shows they remained calm and gave just enough room to avoid a collision rather than the unnecessary panic we often see.
Wasn't aimed at you. More pre-empting the responses that were likely to be posted. I wasn't deflecting the blame on to the camera car at all, pretty clear that the other driver has a death wish and should have their license torn up. I was merely pointing out that the cam car almost seemed ''unfazed'' by the car coming straight at them considering it was in clear view for quite a while.
My first reaction was that I was surprised they didn't use a bit more of the carriageway, I wasn't nit-picking at their driving though. If anything the clip shows they remained calm and gave just enough room to avoid a collision rather than the unnecessary panic we often see.
At the end of the day, got to be happy nobody died in that clip. Any closer and it was a real possibility.
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