The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol 3

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol 3

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surveyor

17,823 posts

184 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
confused Are people seriously trying to blame the DS3 for that accident confused
Not trying to blame... but pointing out that it was not as simple as the BMW pulling into it's path - i think it was a classic co-incidence of BMW pulling out as DS3 pulled in, and that we can all learn a bit - if he'd stayed in lane 2 just a few feet further the accident would have been avoided.

KungFuPanda

4,333 posts

170 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Even so, if this went to Court, I doubt the Judge would make any liability split whatsoever and make the Z4 driver 100% liable.

surveyor

17,823 posts

184 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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KungFuPanda said:
Even so, if this went to Court, I doubt the Judge would make any liability split whatsoever and make the Z4 driver 100% liable.
Probably... BUT

THE CITROEN DRIVER COULD HAVE AVOIDED THE CRASH BY DRIVING DEFENSIVELY.

If he had read the road, observed the risk of stationary traffic pulling out and stayed in lane 2 the crash would have been avoided. Just because it is the BMW at fault - does not mean that the DS3 could not have taken an active role in avoiding the collision.

This is really basic stuff. Reading the road, noting the risks, and driving defensively. I'd expect car enthusiasts to 'get' it.

KungFuPanda

4,333 posts

170 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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surveyor said:
I'd expect car enthusiasts to 'get' it.
There's the rub. Most PHers would get it apart from the occasional trolls obviously.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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got to love the armchair experts.

rambo19

2,740 posts

137 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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BMW is a knob, pure and simple.
Another driver who thinks the indicator is an automatic right of way!

lord trumpton

7,396 posts

126 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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rambo19 said:
BMW is a knob, pure and simple.
Another driver who thinks the indicator is an automatic right of way!
He obviously just made a stupid error - Checked wing mirror -clear. Pulls out at the smae time as lane 2 driver decides to move into lane one.


frankenstein12

1,915 posts

96 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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Truck hits car. Quite epic. Not gory just kind of amusing


https://youtu.be/UH3diaRX5B8

rambo19

2,740 posts

137 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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frankenstein12 said:
Truck hits car. Quite epic. Not gory just kind of amusing


https://youtu.be/UH3diaRX5B8
Good skills from the truck driver.

PF62

3,631 posts

173 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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xjay1337 said:
Muddle238 said:
That mini in the first clip.

ffs.
I can understand the confusion from the driver of the Mini. What on earth is the point of the set of traffic lights at the far end of the yellow box in the centre of the road on the crossing point, so far beyond the stop line they actually relate to.

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
confused Are people seriously trying to blame the DS3 for that accident confused
Have you not visited this thread before? If a car crashed into a tree then some people here would somehow manage to blame the tree. It would be pages long with google map links and various drawings in MS Paint. Nobody ever changes their mind so I've no idea what anyone is trying to achieve that having a wk couldn't resolve in a lot less time.

SmoothCriminal

5,059 posts

199 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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rambo19 said:
BMW is a knob, pure and simple.
Another driver who thinks the indicator is an automatic right of way!
Looking at the BMW lane position and the camera I can't work out how he had a clear view of the carriageway.

Also we all know what nobber BMW was going to do after he'd pulled out.

100% BMW fault can't see how anyone can defend it.

SmoothCriminal

5,059 posts

199 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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PF62 said:
xjay1337 said:
Muddle238 said:
That mini in the first clip.

ffs.
I can understand the confusion from the driver of the Mini. What on earth is the point of the set of traffic lights at the far end of the yellow box in the centre of the road on the crossing point, so far beyond the stop line they actually relate to.
It's for the right turn there's a filter light at the bottom.

surveyor

17,823 posts

184 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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SmoothCriminal said:
Looking at the BMW lane position and the camera I can't work out how he had a clear view of the carriageway.

Also we all know what nobber BMW was going to do after he'd pulled out.

100% BMW fault can't see how anyone can defend it.
No-one is. Some people are saying that they can see how it happened.

We are also commenting on how the D3 could have avoided it also - even though it was not his fault.

FredAstaire

2,336 posts

212 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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xjay1337 said:
That mini in the first clip.

ffs.
Yeah, I'd be pissed off if an Amber gambler crashed into the back of me too.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Friday 17th February 2017
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PF62 said:
I can understand the confusion from the driver of the Mini. What on earth is the point of the set of traffic lights at the far end of the yellow box in the centre of the road on the crossing point, so far beyond the stop line they actually relate to.
I guess so, to me they're obviously there as a repeater set, and obviously they wouldn't put traffic lights making you stop in a yellow box.... but this is the Council we are talking about laugh

Robatr0n

12,362 posts

216 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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FredAstaire said:
xjay1337 said:
That mini in the first clip.

ffs.
Yeah, I'd be pissed off if an Amber gambler crashed into the back of me too.
Yeah he did make a gamble but if you were the mini would you stop where you're not suppose to stop?

Put some glasses on and watch the clip again. There was no stop line, he stopped at the repeater lights. Assuming there was no accident, the traffic to the right wouldn't have been able to turn right thanks to that tit stopping where he wasn't suppose to.

ashleyman

6,986 posts

99 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Robatr0n said:
FredAstaire said:
xjay1337 said:
That mini in the first clip.

ffs.
Yeah, I'd be pissed off if an Amber gambler crashed into the back of me too.
Yeah he did make a gamble but if you were the mini would stop where you're not suppose to stop?

Put some glasses on and watch the clip again. There was no stop line, he stopped at the repeater lights. Assuming there was no accident, the traffic to the right wouldn't have been able to turn right thanks to that tit stopping where he wasn't suppose to.
Just a badly designed junction. There's one close to me that's similar. I always thought it was a repeater set for the traffic going straight but because there is a stop line it applies to traffic joining too. I got caught out a few weeks back when a van stopped for the red and I almost didn't. Now I'm paranoid about it because for the last 4 years I've been driving through what is technically a red light.

Come out of here and turn right: https://goo.gl/maps/tWaWRWKiRto

I can see why the Mini stopped but as there's no stop line it can't be enforceable, surely? Hopefully the dash cam footage helps in any insurance claims. As for amber gamblers, there are times when a car is up your backside and stopping would cause someone to smash into you, had it plenty of times and risked ambers without red light cameras as I'd prefer not to have an accident.

Robatr0n

12,362 posts

216 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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ashleyman said:
Robatr0n said:
FredAstaire said:
xjay1337 said:
That mini in the first clip.

ffs.
Yeah, I'd be pissed off if an Amber gambler crashed into the back of me too.
Yeah he did make a gamble but if you were the mini would stop where you're not suppose to stop?

Put some glasses on and watch the clip again. There was no stop line, he stopped at the repeater lights. Assuming there was no accident, the traffic to the right wouldn't have been able to turn right thanks to that tit stopping where he wasn't suppose to.
Just a badly designed junction. There's one close to me that's similar. I always thought it was a repeater set for the traffic going straight but because there is a stop line it applies to traffic joining too. I got caught out a few weeks back when a van stopped for the red and I almost didn't. Now I'm paranoid about it because for the last 4 years I've been driving through what is technically a red light.

Come out of here and turn right: https://goo.gl/maps/tWaWRWKiRto
I understand where you're coming from but watch the clip again. There's no stop line where the Mini stopped. I wouldn't have stopped there and would have been correct not to have.

ashleyman

6,986 posts

99 months

Saturday 18th February 2017
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Robatr0n said:
ashleyman said:
Robatr0n said:
FredAstaire said:
xjay1337 said:
That mini in the first clip.

ffs.
Yeah, I'd be pissed off if an Amber gambler crashed into the back of me too.
Yeah he did make a gamble but if you were the mini would stop where you're not suppose to stop?

Put some glasses on and watch the clip again. There was no stop line, he stopped at the repeater lights. Assuming there was no accident, the traffic to the right wouldn't have been able to turn right thanks to that tit stopping where he wasn't suppose to.
Just a badly designed junction. There's one close to me that's similar. I always thought it was a repeater set for the traffic going straight but because there is a stop line it applies to traffic joining too. I got caught out a few weeks back when a van stopped for the red and I almost didn't. Now I'm paranoid about it because for the last 4 years I've been driving through what is technically a red light.

Come out of here and turn right: https://goo.gl/maps/tWaWRWKiRto
I understand where you're coming from but watch the clip again. There's no stop line where the Mini stopped. I wouldn't have stopped there and would have been correct not to have.
I know and mentioned that in the latter half of my post which you didn't quote. I wouldn't have stopped either but as there's junctions where the lights ARE a hard stop with a line and everything, it's understandable he might have been confused.
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