The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol 3

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread Vol 3

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PoleDriver

28,637 posts

194 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Engineer792 said:
Monkeylegend said:
imdeman87 said:
problemchild1976 said:
ok - muppets wink

a degree is a measurement of an angle (rotational) and there are 360 of them in 1 full rotation

the bike makes a 180 degree turn based on his original position (started facing one way and ended facing the other way - half a full rotation or half of 360 = 180) and it does not matter if he drove in a circle to achieve it or span on the spot.

what he actually did in simple terms was this...

imagine the roundabout is a square (90 degree right angles yes?) and you have to travel on its edge



as you approach the square

turn 1 - left -90degs (cumulative -90deg) ... travelling along front edge
turn 2 - right 90degs (cumulative 0deg) ... travelling up the left edge
turn 3 - right 90degs (cumulative 90deg) ... travelling along back edge
turn 4 - right 90degs (cumulative 180deg) ... travelling down right edge
turn 5 - right 90degs (cumulative 270deg) ... travelling again along the front edge
turn 6 - left -90degs (cumulative 180deg) ... now exiting the square from where you came

to make a 360 turn..... oh you know what.... i'm not going to draw anything for this! haha. imagine the second hand of a clock with its pointer at the end. if its at the 6 o'clock position, what way is the arrow pointing? down not up yes? what way is the biker facing as he enters the roundabout at the 6 0o'clock position?? up...!! aaargh!!

hahahaahah!!

he made a 180 degree turn and he did this my riding 90% of the way around the circumference of the roundabout

JJ
Wow - ph has reached new levels.

Sorry don't get it.

Could you explain using a dodecagon?
That's a very protracted argument, I can see you have come at it from all angles.
Are you trying to be acutely obtuse, or obtusely acute? biggrin
Just a minute, I think you need a degree to understand all this!

Monkeylegend

26,389 posts

231 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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I think we should start posting sh*t driving vids on the pun thread just to mix things up a bit.

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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ukaskew said:
We've had the 360 argument regarding roundabouts many times. The problem being, there are two ways of looking at it.

- The degrees that the front of the car turns through
- the degrees around the roundabout (i.e. track the car with a compass from the centre)

With option 1 a full trip around the roundabout is 180, with option 2 you are drawing a complete circle (360). Both are correct.
I normally avoid commenting on the arguments but I can't let something this stupid go. There is no option 2, anyone who thinks otherwise is a massive moron and should probably be locked in a rubber room for their own safety.

Lets put it this way. You are travelling north, you turn around (lets not get into turning around multiple times you pedantic arses, you know who you are!) so that you are now heading south. You have done 180 degrees. That's it. No room for argument. If you have done 360 degrees you are still travelling north.

Before anyone says it, you can travel directions other than north but I was keeping it simple for the fkwits.

Biker's Nemesis

38,652 posts

208 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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poing said:
I normally avoid commenting on the arguments but I can't let something this stupid go. There is no option 2, anyone who thinks otherwise is a massive moron and should probably be locked in a rubber room for their own safety.

Lets put it this way. You are travelling north, you turn around (lets not get into turning around multiple times you pedantic arses, you know who you are!) so that you are now heading south. You have done 180 degrees. That's it. No room for argument. If you have done 360 degrees you are still travelling north.

Before anyone says it, you can travel directions other than north but I was keeping it simple for the fkwits.
hehe

Blakewater

4,309 posts

157 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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poing said:
ukaskew said:
We've had the 360 argument regarding roundabouts many times. The problem being, there are two ways of looking at it.

- The degrees that the front of the car turns through
- the degrees around the roundabout (i.e. track the car with a compass from the centre)

With option 1 a full trip around the roundabout is 180, with option 2 you are drawing a complete circle (360). Both are correct.
I normally avoid commenting on the arguments but I can't let something this stupid go. There is no option 2, anyone who thinks otherwise is a massive moron and should probably be locked in a rubber room for their own safety.

Lets put it this way. You are travelling north, you turn around (lets not get into turning around multiple times you pedantic arses, you know who you are!) so that you are now heading south. You have done 180 degrees. That's it. No room for argument. If you have done 360 degrees you are still travelling north.

Before anyone says it, you can travel directions other than north but I was keeping it simple for the fkwits.
A roundabout is a circle and he traveled all the way around the roundabout which is 360 degrees. That left him 180 degrees from the direction he was originally facing.

This is a 180 degree turn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfq2w7ZxkbI

The original video is here and the motorcyclist says it was the Megane driver who took the front bumper off the Mercedes trying to chase after him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfZI08qE1I


problemchild1976

1,376 posts

149 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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but he went all the way around the cone so must be a 360 hahaha

JJ

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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greygoose said:
ashleyman said:
Van brake checks truck, gets hit.

https://youtu.be/kTAddL4hD94
Other drivers were lucky the ladder didn't come off completely. That sort of retarded driving by the van driver should result in a lengthy ban and vehicle crushed imho.
Van driver's an idiot, but the HGV doing 52 according to his dash cam probably won't help his case.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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monthefish said:
... but the HGV doing 52 according to his dash cam probably won't help his case.
Why?

ETA: did someone mention HGVs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5dL4DPm-DE Still one of the funniest dashcam clips I've ever seen!

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 26th February 20:07

JM

3,170 posts

206 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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Motorrad said:
Mr Snrub said:
Latest Exposed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tCNI4I95Vo&lc...

Last one is pretty interesting. No idea what the car driver's problem was, but from that point the biker becomes intent on getting past him just to "prove a point" then goes past a couple of other cars at pinch points
Biker is a knob, likewise the tt in the megane. That said a more effective response from the biker is a swift downward strike of the gauntlet on the wing mirror and off, not that I condone criminal damage.
The most effective response from the biker would have been ignoring the arse in the car and carrying on with his day.

monthefish

20,443 posts

231 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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280E said:
monthefish said:
... but the HGV doing 52 according to his dash cam probably won't help his case.
Why?

(the sign at 30s is green, so he's on a dual carriageway, not a motorway.)

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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monthefish said:
280E said:
monthefish said:
... but the HGV doing 52 according to his dash cam probably won't help his case.
Why?

(the sign at 30s is green, so he's on a dual carriageway, not a motorway.)
Sure?
http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/changes-and-answers...

The A2 is not, AFAIK, in Scotland...

surveyor

17,823 posts

184 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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280E said:
monthefish said:
... but the HGV doing 52 according to his dash cam probably won't help his case.
Why?

ETA: did someone mention HGVs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5dL4DPm-DE Still one of the funniest dashcam clips I've ever seen!

Edited by 280E on Sunday 26th February 20:07
That video makes me wince every time I see it. I'm frankly amazed that my HGV does not back off and give them space rather than undertaking...

ashleyman

6,986 posts

99 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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ashleyman said:
Why would anyone be stupid enough to this kind of thing in a vehicle with the company name on it?

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Sunday 26th February 2017
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One of the commenters has reported it to the company.

Not sure what good it will do tbh.

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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poing said:
ashleyman said:
Why would anyone be stupid enough to this kind of thing in a vehicle with the company name on it?
Beyond the speed aspect it's a pretty normal overtake there - nothing to get knickers in a twist about tbh! - fair chance the cars were doing closer to 25mph if speedo is saying just under 30, especially given the speed differential and the acceleration of the Lorry showing it's unlikely to be into court summons territory

Looking at how dark it is I really doubt many children out have been out and about to be run over tbh (inflammatory video title)

rainmakerraw

1,222 posts

126 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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kiethton said:
Beyond the speed aspect it's a pretty normal overtake there - nothing to get knickers in a twist about tbh! - fair chance the cars were doing closer to 25mph if speedo is saying just under 30, especially given the speed differential and the acceleration of the Lorry showing it's unlikely to be into court summons territory

Looking at how dark it is I really doubt many children out have been out and about to be run over tbh (inflammatory video title)
It's a GPS speedo, so it'll be fairly accurate... Speed isn't the issue imo, it's the fact he overtook passing at least two offside junctions in the dark, on the approach to a set of lights (also a junction?). Drivers should check both ways before emerging, but those turning left seldom do; they look right and emerge. They're not expecting to run into a HGV that is (1) fully offside and (2) over the speed limit as it hurtles towards them a few metres away.

Highway Code Rule 167 said:
DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example

  • approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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rainmakerraw said:
kiethton said:
Beyond the speed aspect it's a pretty normal overtake there - nothing to get knickers in a twist about tbh! - fair chance the cars were doing closer to 25mph if speedo is saying just under 30, especially given the speed differential and the acceleration of the Lorry showing it's unlikely to be into court summons territory

Looking at how dark it is I really doubt many children out have been out and about to be run over tbh (inflammatory video title)
It's a GPS speedo, so it'll be fairly accurate... Speed isn't the issue imo, it's the fact he overtook passing at least two offside junctions in the dark, on the approach to a set of lights (also a junction?). Drivers should check both ways before emerging, but those turning left seldom do; they look right and emerge. They're not expecting to run into a HGV that is (1) fully offside and (2) over the speed limit as it hurtles towards them a few metres away.

Highway Code Rule 167 said:
DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example

  • approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
Just the one junction I could see and that was right at the beginning.

Also this issue is negated slightly by being at night - headlight reflections from these side roads will show the likelihood of anything being there (not 100% foolproof I'll concede). Looking at the footage and the speed shown I'd be surprised if he was overtaking at anything more than 40mph

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

170 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Ah, so maybe only 40MPH?

That's ok then.


kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Monday 27th February 2017
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Depending on the conditions and specific location 40mph is perfectly fine in my book
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