RE: Ford Puma: Catch It While You Can

RE: Ford Puma: Catch It While You Can

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All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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I bought a silver 1.7 a few years ago with 18k on it. It was mint, no rust. It was great as a local run about but I was also doing some distance driving as well and they're really not suited for motorways or high speeds. Nearly 5k revs at 80mph got really annoying really fast. They do handle well but you can't really enjoy it because the seats are firm and you sit on them rather than in them, so the moment you try to take a fast right-hander you're steering from the passenger seat. The headlights are comically bad as is the aircon which saps so much power that it feels like you've lost a cylinder.

In the short 3 months I had mine I saw the rear arches getting tiny spots of rust appearing and I don't have the space or time to do car maintenance at home so decided to sell it. If I recall correctly I paid £1500 for it and sold it for £2k. I wonder if it's still on the road? W963VGY.

Limpet

6,310 posts

161 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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All that jazz said:
If I recall correctly I paid £1500 for it and sold it for £2k. I wonder if it's still on the road? W963VGY.
Not only is it still on the road, it looks like a cracker from the MOT history. Has a current MOT, still low mileage (58k) and has never had an advisory or fail on corrosion. In fact, apart from a shock absorber oil misting, it hasn't had a single MOT advisory since 2011.


All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Limpet said:
Not only is it still on the road, it looks like a cracker from the MOT history. Has a current MOT, still low mileage (58k) and has never had an advisory or fail on corrosion. In fact, apart from a shock absorber oil misting, it hasn't had a single MOT advisory since 2011.
58k ! The buyer said he was going to cherish it and let it appreciate in value with it being such low mileage. I guess that plan went out of the window then. When I bought it the previous owner was an old woman who'd had it stored for years due to illness.

Limpet

6,310 posts

161 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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58k is tiny mileage for a 16 year old Puma

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

176 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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WilkoIW said:
Squirrelofwoe said:
And the rest! hehe

from someone who sold their DC2 at 5 times the price of a Puma back in 2012 when DC2 prices were near enough the lowest they had ever been - I've never timed car sales wellcurse
Out of interest what is the going rate for a good DC2 these days?

I don't often see many decent ones for sale.
OT I know, but I would have said probably £6k-£8k for a 'good' one now depending on mileage/originality. I sold my sub 90k miles example back in 2012 for £4k weeping I did need a quick sale though and it went to a good home.

Back on Pumas, my cousin picked up a 1-owner-from-new, 2002 example with less than 80k on the clock and full service history for £550 in Feb last year. It was his second Puma so we both knew what we were looking for, but even so we ended up looking at 12 different cars in a 50 mile radius before settling on that one which was the cleanest by far- it wasn't a limited edition but had (working) air-con and crucially, minimal signs of rust and a near spotless MOT history. I drove it home for him and it was freshest example I've driven. As I was covered to drive it third party and the car being worth buttons, I borrowed it quite a few times, great fun and seemed to run on fumes rather than actual fuel. Never know a car be so much fun yet consume so little petrol!

It was only a stop-gap car for him for a few months (between selling a modified ST and collecting his new Mustang GT) so longevity wasn't a priority, but we were both a bit sad to see it go! He sold it to a young-ish local mechanic- for £300! rotate

danlowe42

52 posts

126 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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If anyone is interested and near Wakefield in Yorkshire... this one looks like a bargain: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282329398091

Btw I've got no ties to this car at all, I just noticed on an ebay browsing session.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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danlowe42 said:
If anyone is interested and near Wakefield in Yorkshire... this one looks like a bargain: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282329398091

Btw I've got no ties to this car at all, I just noticed on an ebay browsing session.
and then you've got to deal with the seller who appears to be a monumental bell-end from the blurb he's wrote.

JonJon2015

303 posts

97 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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All that jazz said:
and then you've got to deal with the seller who appears to be a monumental bell-end from the blurb he's wrote.
And then you've also got to deal with the very rotten looking rear arch and check that the structural welding repair to the same corner (given the fail sheet of the first of its MoTs in 2014) isn't just a bit of cardboard and a few coats of underseal...

Pumas are great cars though and I recognise and echo all of the qualities that earlier contributors to the thread have noted. I have the oily bits of a Racing Puma bolted into a Fiesta body shell of the same era (so essentially the same underpinnings) and the steering, gear change and throttle response are all fantastic. It's a really easy chassis to work with and every drive is a reminder that you don't have to bother the speed limits to drive enthusiastically and to have fun.

Edited by JonJon2015 on Wednesday 18th January 16:39

Richard-390a0

2,257 posts

91 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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All that jazz said:
and then you've got to deal with the seller who appears to be a monumental bell-end from the blurb he's wrote.
& a fking ginger too from the username... so that's a no from me!. biggrin

gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Richard-390a0 said:
& a fking ginger too from the username... so that's a no from me!. biggrin
I wonder if you would have dared to offer such a reponse if you thought the seller might be black from his user name???? Grow up!

I bought mine as a third car run-about as I'd heard good things about them and even a good one could be picked up reletively cheaply. All the moans and groans are correct regarding the seats, lights and rust etc but I've enjoyed mine so much I've had it treated for the tin worm (cost more than the car), fresh suspension and new drivers bucket seat which has transformed both the driving position and the ability to stay on the right side of the car when cornering. Lights are still pathetic mind but there isn't a great deal you can do to improve them that's legal. In fact I've never tinkered with a car so much so it's looking like a definite keeper.


angelicupstarts

257 posts

131 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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All that jazz said:
danlowe42 said:
If anyone is interested and near Wakefield in Yorkshire... this one looks like a bargain: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282329398091

Btw I've got no ties to this car at all, I just noticed on an ebay browsing session.
and then you've got to deal with the seller who appears to be a monumental bell-end from the blurb he's wrote.
Why? just read advert ...cant see why bell-end ...?/

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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angelicupstarts said:
Why? just read advert ...cant see why bell-end ...?/
DO THIS
DON'T DO THAT
ONLY RING OR EMAIL
BIDDERS MUST MEET STUPID CRITERIA OR I WILL REPORT YOU TO EBAY AND HAVE YOUR ACCOUNT CLOSED DOWN
NO TEST DRIVE (for a £500 stbox - do me a favour rofl)
NO TIMEWASTERS/TYRE-KICKERS
NO OFFERS

etc etc.

= colossal bell-end who thinks the world owes him.

angelicupstarts

257 posts

131 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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All that jazz said:
angelicupstarts said:
Why? just read advert ...cant see why bell-end ...?/
DO THIS
DON'T DO THAT
ONLY RING OR EMAIL
BIDDERS MUST MEET STUPID CRITERIA OR I WILL REPORT YOU TO EBAY AND HAVE YOUR ACCOUNT CLOSED DOWN
NO TEST DRIVE (for a £500 stbox - do me a favour rofl)
NO TIMEWASTERS/TYRE-KICKERS
NO OFFERS

etc etc.

= colossal bell-end who thinks the world owes him.
didnt see the bit about no test drive ..not good

GezG

26 posts

89 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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I bought a Puma as a cheap track car and it's got under my skin. EBC Discs & Yellowstuff pads along with fresh fluid has improved the pedal feel no end, lower front strut brace & poly bushing the back axle has sharpened things up too.
Unsure if I've just been unlucky but after a few track days it's started using a lot of oil & is quite smoky at higher revs so looking like a new engine is required as the bores are Nikasil lined.
I've also fitted OMP bucket seats which hold you a lot better & as already mentioned, the headlights are woeful but mine is rarely driven at night.

MikeT66

2,680 posts

124 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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anonymous said:
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Which version is it, Cossers? That may be worth hanging on to!

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

176 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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MikeT66 said:
anonymous said:
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Which version is it, Cossers? That may be worth hanging on to!
You would like to think so wouldn't you considering the values of just about every other Ford model with any hint of sporting credibility!

But as I posted earlier, the Puma we picked up last year was a similar car- just with 75k miles vs 25k (a pretty big difference I know but bare with!). It was an older lady who had owned the car from new, full Ford service history, immaculate inside, everything worked (including aircon), had been kept in a garage most of it's life so minimal signs of corrosion (for a Puma), and had been maintained impeccably. It generally seemed a bit of a time-warp car.

Yet it still only cost £550! yikes

trickywoo

Original Poster:

11,791 posts

230 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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GezG said:
EBC Discs & Yellowstuff pads along with fresh fluid has improved the pedal feel no end
My biggest issue with the brakes was that they felt over servoed. The first few degrees of pedal travel seemed to give 95% of the braking available. When you needed more the effort on the pedal needed to be much, much stronger and even then not a lot happened.

All that jazz

7,632 posts

146 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Squirrelofwoe said:
You would like to think so wouldn't you considering the values of just about every other Ford model with any hint of sporting credibility!

But as I posted earlier, the Puma we picked up last year was a similar car- just with 75k miles vs 25k (a pretty big difference I know but bare with!). It was an older lady who had owned the car from new, full Ford service history, immaculate inside, everything worked (including aircon), had been kept in a garage most of it's life so minimal signs of corrosion (for a Puma), and had been maintained impeccably. It generally seemed a bit of a time-warp car.

Yet it still only cost £550! yikes
There's still too many of them about, that's why they're so cheap. Give it another 5 or 10 years and I can see good, low mileage non-rusty ones going for 10x that and increasing as they become even rarer. It's happened to pretty much every sporty Ford of the past, including a lot of non-sporty models.

MikeT66

2,680 posts

124 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Squirrelofwoe said:
MikeT66 said:
anonymous said:
[redacted]
Which version is it, Cossers? That may be worth hanging on to!
You would like to think so wouldn't you considering the values of just about every other Ford model with any hint of sporting credibility!

But as I posted earlier, the Puma we picked up last year was a similar car- just with 75k miles vs 25k (a pretty big difference I know but bare with!). It was an older lady who had owned the car from new, full Ford service history, immaculate inside, everything worked (including aircon), had been kept in a garage most of it's life so minimal signs of corrosion (for a Puma), and had been maintained impeccably. It generally seemed a bit of a time-warp car.

Yet it still only cost £550! yikes
Yes, that’s a fair point indeed – and it sounds like you got a good car there. At the moment I think the Puma is at the bottom of the ‘value’ curve – or maybe just on the way up, hence the original article.

Many Fords though, do seem to pick up price quite quickly at some point. As an owner, I hope the Puma does, too – not because I’d ever hope to recoup some of the money I’ve spent on mine, but more in the hope that an increased interest in the model may help with future parts supply and support.

In a time where speed is increasingly monitored and cars become more technically intrusive into the driving experience, it may yet be that the Pumas time is yet to come!


Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

176 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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All that jazz said:
Squirrelofwoe said:
You would like to think so wouldn't you considering the values of just about every other Ford model with any hint of sporting credibility!

But as I posted earlier, the Puma we picked up last year was a similar car- just with 75k miles vs 25k (a pretty big difference I know but bare with!). It was an older lady who had owned the car from new, full Ford service history, immaculate inside, everything worked (including aircon), had been kept in a garage most of it's life so minimal signs of corrosion (for a Puma), and had been maintained impeccably. It generally seemed a bit of a time-warp car.

Yet it still only cost £550! yikes
There's still too many of them about, that's why they're so cheap. Give it another 5 or 10 years and I can see good, low mileage non-rusty ones going for 10x that and increasing as they become even rarer. It's happened to pretty much every sporty Ford of the past, including a lot of non-sporty models.
Yep very true.