RE: Updated BMW M4 announced
Discussion
Nick928 said:
We are all entitled to our own opinion but I've just passed 6.5k miles in a 2016 M3. My other car is an i3 which must surely be one of the least dated cars about and I have to say that in comparison the M3 is light years ahead in quality, feel and undatedness (well, you know what I mean).
I can't comment on the pre LCI cars but having clocked up most of those miles in damp and greasy conditions I don't find it in the least twitchy. Clearly with well north of 400HP and rear drive you can't stamp on the accelerator but driven with the respect that it deserves it is far from twitchy.
I've recently had a number of Elises, a series one Exige and most recently a 928. None of which had traction control, so perhaps I'm a little better at tempering my right foot than if I'd just jumped out of something a little more forgiving.
Just my two pennies worth.
I can't comment on the pre LCI cars but having clocked up most of those miles in damp and greasy conditions I don't find it in the least twitchy. Clearly with well north of 400HP and rear drive you can't stamp on the accelerator but driven with the respect that it deserves it is far from twitchy.
I've recently had a number of Elises, a series one Exige and most recently a 928. None of which had traction control, so perhaps I'm a little better at tempering my right foot than if I'd just jumped out of something a little more forgiving.
Just my two pennies worth.
A friend had an I3 for a weekend recently as they were trying to sell him one, I have to say we couldn't stop giggling, repetitively giving it some beans from 0 - 50, really took us both by surprise how well it got of the line, we were like a pair of kids
If I didn't commute quiet as far I'd seriously consider one (also impressed us how quiet it was with the range extender running!).
Yipper said:
As fast dailies shift to AWD (or switchable AWD), the M range, with its badly twitchy back end, is starting to look and feel very dated.
I couldn't agree with you more. I want to be able to mash the throttle in any gear, any weather and with any amount of lock on without getting caught out. Throttle modulation is for old gits. It's all about the point and squirt in 2017!chedixon said:
A friend had an I3 for a weekend recently as they were trying to sell him one, I have to say we couldn't stop giggling, repetitively giving it some beans from 0 - 50, really took us both by surprise how well it got of the line, we were like a pair of kids
If I didn't commute quiet as far I'd seriously consider one (also impressed us how quiet it was with the range extender running!).
MattOz said:
Cupramax said:
LED headlights front and rear? Now theres a novelty 
It's one thing that really grates with BMW. They've used LED's since 2003 on their cars, yet every new model features halogen bulbs (on the whole) for the launch model and then BMW add LED's for the LCI models. I know it's all marketing b
ks, but really.aston addict said:
chedixon said:
A friend had an I3 for a weekend recently as they were trying to sell him one, I have to say we couldn't stop giggling, repetitively giving it some beans from 0 - 50, really took us both by surprise how well it got of the line, we were like a pair of kids
If I didn't commute quiet as far I'd seriously consider one (also impressed us how quiet it was with the range extender running!).
Even after a couple of years, the giggle you get from the acceleration never wears off.
We've got the RX version and Euro jaunts aside the range has never been an issue, we've done a couple of hundred miles using electric and RX.
Mrs928 does a 80 mile round commute everyday (she can plug in at work for free). I'd have another without hesitation.
cerb4.5lee said:
Nickyboy said:
Dullest interior ever, have BMW changed the instrument cluster in the past 20 years?
Interiors are BMW'S weakest link sadly, they fall behind their rivals by some margin in that regard. I don't mind a bit of cost cutting if it helps retain the rwd layout with the engine as far back as possible compared to the overhanging front drive based Audi equivalent. But each to their own.
nickfrog said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Nickyboy said:
Dullest interior ever, have BMW changed the instrument cluster in the past 20 years?
Interiors are BMW'S weakest link sadly, they fall behind their rivals by some margin in that regard. I don't mind a bit of cost cutting if it helps retain the rwd layout with the engine as far back as possible compared to the overhanging front drive based Audi equivalent. But each to their own.
chedixon said:
A friend had an I3 for a weekend recently as they were trying to sell him one, I have to say we couldn't stop giggling, repetitively giving it some beans from 0 - 50, really took us both by surprise how well it got of the line, we were like a pair of kids
If I didn't commute quiet as far I'd seriously consider one (also impressed us how quiet it was with the range extender running!).
Another pointless refresh really. I can't really even tell the difference with the new front and rear lights. It just looks like a bigger M2 now. Not a bad thing i suppose but not exactly mind-blowing either. Not that i expected too much anyway.
I like the M4 though. I think i prefer the M3 though after seeing them in the flesh. I'm a big fan of coupes but the 5-door saloon version just seems to look more muscular and aggressive.
I like the M4 though. I think i prefer the M3 though after seeing them in the flesh. I'm a big fan of coupes but the 5-door saloon version just seems to look more muscular and aggressive.
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