RE: New Ford Mustang!

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NJ72

183 posts

98 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Is it me or does it just look like an angular version of the Jaguar XKR?

SpamCan

5,026 posts

218 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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AndySheff said:
I wonder if the tri-bar front sidelights are allowed to be used in the UK now ?
Probably not but I think a company somewhere in Europe is trying to develop their own so they can be rerofitted.

Paddy78

208 posts

146 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Roll on 2018 when I can order one! smile I just hope the price isn't too far from the current Mustang, but with the weak pound and mag suspension etc., you have to figure this will be over £40K, maybe pushing £45K with options?

MrHooky

196 posts

142 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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NJ72 said:


Is it me or does it just look like an angular version of the Jaguar XKR?
Exactly what I thought. No bad thing necessarily, as both very good looking cars to my eyes. Motor industry is so incestuous you'll probably find the person who designed this may have had a hand in the XK...

Really is a great looking coupe in my opinion, both in garish (orange) and that grey above. The issue for me is (and I've had a passenger ride in the V8) is the interior. Call me a snob but after a few Audis and BMWs (all being c.10 years old) the Mustang interior was still light years behind the German competition of yesteryear. It really didn't feel very nice inside despite looking fabulous from the outside...

Plus I didn't think the V8 felt very quick...

KevinCamaroSS

11,630 posts

280 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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MrHooky said:
Exactly what I thought. No bad thing necessarily, as both very good looking cars to my eyes. Motor industry is so incestuous you'll probably find the person who designed this may have had a hand in the XK...

Really is a great looking coupe in my opinion, both in garish (orange) and that grey above. The issue for me is (and I've had a passenger ride in the V8) is the interior. Call me a snob but after a few Audis and BMWs (all being c.10 years old) the Mustang interior was still light years behind the German competition of yesteryear. It really didn't feel very nice inside despite looking fabulous from the outside...

Plus I didn't think the V8 felt very quick...
Interiors are pretty low-rent, but, performance for £ is way better than any european car.

Watched a video of the new Camaro ZL1 at the Nurburgring. Engine constantly between about 5,900 and 6,500 rpm with the 10 speed auto. Was massively impressive, effectively deploying maximum power all the time.

Guvernator

13,155 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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unpc said:
So what does it rev to now then? Unless I'm mistaken the article doesn't say.
I'd like to know this also but I don't think anyone knows yet. AFAIK the standard GT revs to 6.5k which is a bit too low for my tastes but the GT350 has a barn storming 8.2k limit! If they can make it rev anywhere near that for the standard car I'm sold.

HannsG

3,045 posts

134 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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How much is this on a lease or PCP?

HannsG

3,045 posts

134 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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ash73 said:


Gorgeous!
Stunning......wow.

The rear lights look a lot better

Centurion07

10,381 posts

247 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Guvernator said:
AFAIK the standard GT revs to 6.5k which is a bit too low for my tastes...
How much time do you think you'd be able to spend driving a 5 litre V8 Mustang at +6500RPM? rofl

Guvernator

13,155 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Centurion07 said:
Guvernator said:
AFAIK the standard GT revs to 6.5k which is a bit too low for my tastes...
How much time do you think you'd be able to spend driving a 5 litre V8 Mustang at +6500RPM? rofl
Not enough probably but I'd give it a damn good go! biggrin

Guvernator

13,155 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
I regularly get to the limiter in mine, rowing through the gears. The Coyote makes peak power @6500rpm and it likes to rev.
Sounds just like my kind of engine, traditionally it seemed to be quite difficult to get V8's to rev hence them picking up a bit of a reputation for being "lazy" but the new generation of engines seem to give you the best of both worlds. The lazy low down torque AND the top end fireworks, especially the motor in the GT350, to me the specs on that engine just sound sublime.

J4CKO

41,556 posts

200 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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ash73 said:
J4CKO said:
I dont get the concern about these new autos with loads of ratios, it is an auto, it decides what gear to be in and surely, with more it can be in a more suitable gear, more of the time ? they can also skip ratios, wouldnt want to go back to old style 3 speed slushers, they could be a bit painful.
The more gears the more time it spends changing gear, off the power. Or is it a double clutch?
I think Ford may have considered that, it isnt sequential, they dont have to go through every gear, the gearbox ECU has ten ratios to choose from an a set of parameters such as engine speed, throttle position, current gear, gearbox mode (sports/comfort or whatever) and it logs driving style to try and guess what kind of shift pattern you are wanting, it will adjust shift speed and force based on these inputs.

By no means an expert but it wont be a V8 Mustang shifting through ten gears like a Peterbilt driver, the gearbox ECU just has a greater spread of rations for every given occasion.

When under full acceleration I am guessing it will not shift through each one in turn, no need but the benefits will be perhaps more that when it kicks down it has four ratios to choose from depending on throttle position rather than two so instead of the not much or all you get with some autos it goes all Goldilocks and gets it just right, also, when driving economically it can be in a more suitable ratio, most of the time you wont really know its changed gear, I very much doubt that it will feel like an electric train leaving the station, shifting every 4 feet.




Guvernator

13,155 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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It's one of the few modern performance cars you can still buy with a manual gearbox so tbh I'd just get one of those and avoid all the faff with 10 gears.

GroundEffect

13,836 posts

156 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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The 10spd won't do 9 upshifts from 1st. It's designed for skip shifting from the get go so depending on pedal position z grade and altitude (amongst other things) it'll decide which ratios to use. I can't remember if it's 7 or 8 normal ratios it'll use in a run up.

VeeFource

1,076 posts

177 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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I have limited knowledge of cars with an American origin. Do these cars use metric fixings etc or do you need to own an imperial set of tools to work on them?

V8 FOU

2,974 posts

147 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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Have they sorted the godawful steering, I wonder?

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Wednesday 18th January 2017
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V8 FOU said:
Have they sorted the godawful steering, I wonder?
Not heard any reference to it so it's probably as numb as ever.

GlennT

160 posts

177 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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Whos is Dwayne Johnson?

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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GlennT said:
Whos is Dwayne Johnson?
he's an international organ player, best in the biz. Done all the best locations Blackpool, Scarborough etc

his nickname 'the rock' stems from his ability to sit steadfast at the pipes, playing non stop for hours with no key drops.

Martin 480 Turbo

602 posts

187 months

Thursday 19th January 2017
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I had the current gen. Mustang convertible as a rental for a west coast trip in 2014.
Came away mightily impressed. It was "only" the naturally aspirated 3.6L V6.

But it howled ran and handlled.
So much so, I really pondered getting one on lease at home in Germany, but the Ford Lease rates showed that to be nonsense.

Instead for the next company car lease I opted out of the Diesel Audi and got me a nice 535ix. Sure the interior is a tad finer. But neither the 3.0L 6 Turbo engine nor the 8-speed auto or the steering beat that Mustang.

If Ford did a Torino wagon based on the Mustang it would give BMW a run for their money. Sadly everybody is into SUVs these days. Not sporty wagons.

Looking forward to driving a 350GT with the clever dampers.

Martin