RE: Ford Focus RS: PH Fleet
Discussion
yonex said:
Why are people so desperate for their cars to be universally approved, does it really matter that much?
I don't give two hoots, as my post earlier reveals, I have put 25k miles on probably the worst/most hated car the 
I just get annoyed when people regurgitate nonsense about cars without even sitting in them let alone driving them.
I remember when that cowboy hat wearing, American car enthusiast that used to come here was trying to tell me how reliable TVR's were, I told him I owned two over two years, and for comparison reasons I asked him how many had he owned and for how long, his answer was "None, but I read enough forums", Tosser
Ahbefive said:
yonex said:
IanJ9375 said:
Why are ill informed people so quick to share their lack of knowledge?
For the same reason as we have countless threads on a Focus?
Ahbefive said:
And yet you feel compelled to comment in every single one? If it doesn't interest you then why bother?
I would say I have an interest in that particular segment of car and when a thread asks a question I reply. It's a public forum, one for debating the merits of such things? Apparently only those that agree with you and other owners (you would call them fanboys if it didn't reflect inwards) are acceptable. Everyone else is 'ill-informed' 
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 23 January 16:26
yonex said:
I would say I have an interest in that particular segment of car and when a thread asks a question I reply.
So you comment in every hyper/hot hatch thread? Can't say I've noticed that but I have noticed you in every single FRS thread even when you say its only a focus etc. All of these hot hatches are "only" an A class, Golf, A3, Civic, Focus, 1series etc etc so you must have an interest in mundane cars despite your protestations about "several threads for a focus". There are also countless threads for each of the rivals too.
Edited by Ahbefive on Monday 23 January 21:06
IanJ9375 said:
Engine is linear - when you drive say a B road you always seem to be on the power.
Boot is smaller than the regular Focus true - but it's not a "Small" boot and there's plenty of opportunity to use the sections underneath for storage.
Fuel economy is about 25mpg, with remapped examples closer to 30mpg - my previous fwd hatch was running 28mpg during the 7yrs I kept it, 3mpg a fair trade for the AWD system imho
Poor visibility - I've no idea where this comes from not something I've experienced
Shell seats - hard to get in over but fine once sat in them and I'm 6ft1 and 20+st
Drift Button - you don't need to press it, I haven't bothered yet so it can be easily ignored unless you're the sort of fool who bought it for that feature thinking it was going to turn you to Ken Block?
Arguing about a road car using lap times to back your argument is a little odd to me, it's a great drive has an almost motorsport feel to how it goes about its job still allied to the practical element that makes hot hatches so useable.
Have you driven one on a decent test?
I've not driven one yet and have no intensions after reading many reviews coming to the same conclusion. Especially the pistonheads extensive tests of both the frs and ctr shows that the ctr is a much better car.Boot is smaller than the regular Focus true - but it's not a "Small" boot and there's plenty of opportunity to use the sections underneath for storage.
Fuel economy is about 25mpg, with remapped examples closer to 30mpg - my previous fwd hatch was running 28mpg during the 7yrs I kept it, 3mpg a fair trade for the AWD system imho
Poor visibility - I've no idea where this comes from not something I've experienced
Shell seats - hard to get in over but fine once sat in them and I'm 6ft1 and 20+st
Drift Button - you don't need to press it, I haven't bothered yet so it can be easily ignored unless you're the sort of fool who bought it for that feature thinking it was going to turn you to Ken Block?
Arguing about a road car using lap times to back your argument is a little odd to me, it's a great drive has an almost motorsport feel to how it goes about its job still allied to the practical element that makes hot hatches so useable.
Have you driven one on a decent test?
- ctr is much more striking to look at and looks like what a hot hatch should look like. The frs looks too much like an st
- performance, frs is quicker off the line because of the 4wd but once moving the ctr is quicker.
- not sure why anyone needs 4wd in the uk, it's not snowed here for a few years properly, most of the time you don't need it. From performance point of view it's very rare you can drive fast in the wet.
- ctr is much cheaper to run, better on fuel. Had 45mpg on a long run
- better handling in the ctr, quicker steering rack
- more practical, bigger boot
- nicer seats
- better interior quality and driving position
- because of focusrsdirect selling cars at a premium they are helping them to hold there value.
Edited by David-kotos on Monday 23 January 23:29
David-kotos said:
I've not driven one yet and have no intensions after reading many reviews coming to the same conclusion. Especially the pistonheads extensive tests of both the frs and ctr shows that the ctr is a much better car.
- ctr is much more striking to look at and looks like what a hot hatch should look like. The frs looks too much like an st
- performance, frs is quicker off the line because of the 4wd but once moving the ctr is quicker.
- not sure why anyone needs 4wd in the uk, it's not snowed here for a few years properly, most of the time you don't need it. From performance point of view it's very rare you can drive fast in the wet.
- ctr is much cheaper to run, better on fuel. Had 45mpg on a long run
- better handling in the ctr, quicker steering rack
- more practical, bigger boot
- nicer seats
- better interior quality and driving position
- because of focusrsdirect selling cars at a premium they are helping them to hold there value.
So tell me, what do you drive? I can't work it out? - ctr is much more striking to look at and looks like what a hot hatch should look like. The frs looks too much like an st
- performance, frs is quicker off the line because of the 4wd but once moving the ctr is quicker.
- not sure why anyone needs 4wd in the uk, it's not snowed here for a few years properly, most of the time you don't need it. From performance point of view it's very rare you can drive fast in the wet.
- ctr is much cheaper to run, better on fuel. Had 45mpg on a long run
- better handling in the ctr, quicker steering rack
- more practical, bigger boot
- nicer seats
- better interior quality and driving position
- because of focusrsdirect selling cars at a premium they are helping them to hold there value.
Honestly, just leave it lie FFS. When the MKII RS was launched we had this bulls
t from the Megane RS owners, just leave it be. If you love your Civic so much just be happy with it, stop telling the world its better than X, Y or Z! David-kotos said:
I've not driven one yet and have no intensions after reading many reviews coming to the same conclusion. Especially the pistonheads extensive tests of both the frs and ctr shows that the ctr is a much better car.
- ctr is much more striking to look at and looks like what a hot hatch should look like. The frs looks too much like an st
- performance, frs is quicker off the line because of the 4wd but once moving the ctr is quicker.
- not sure why anyone needs 4wd in the uk, it's not snowed here for a few years properly, most of the time you don't need it. From performance point of view it's very rare you can drive fast in the wet.
- ctr is much cheaper to run, better on fuel. Had 45mpg on a long run
- better handling in the ctr, quicker steering rack
- more practical, bigger boot
- nicer seats
- better interior quality and driving position
- because of focusrsdirect selling cars at a premium they are helping them to hold there value.
Oh CTR owner not willing to try something out huh- ctr is much more striking to look at and looks like what a hot hatch should look like. The frs looks too much like an st
- performance, frs is quicker off the line because of the 4wd but once moving the ctr is quicker.
- not sure why anyone needs 4wd in the uk, it's not snowed here for a few years properly, most of the time you don't need it. From performance point of view it's very rare you can drive fast in the wet.
- ctr is much cheaper to run, better on fuel. Had 45mpg on a long run
- better handling in the ctr, quicker steering rack
- more practical, bigger boot
- nicer seats
- better interior quality and driving position
- because of focusrsdirect selling cars at a premium they are helping them to hold there value.
Edited by David-kotos on Monday 23 January 23:29
Have you read reviews across the board - very positive on the whole, yes like all cars things that could be better, the interior seats and wheel apart remains no different to the regular Focus but then which performance car has a completely different interior to its derivative. AWD also has it's uses when it rains, which it does a hell of a lot of in the UK none more so than in North Wales where I reside.
My first Ford and who knows it might be my only one - but it's a hell of a car and comes alive the harder you drive it.
David-kotos said:
I've not driven one yet and have no intensions
So your experiences are based on nothing? Yet you are stating like it is some kind of undisputed fact.Who needs awd unless its snowing?
Hilarious. You sir are a prize pillock.
Try driving a car before talking nonsense about it.
Ahbefive said:
So your experiences are based on nothing? Yet you are stating like it is some kind of undisputed fact.
Who needs awd unless its snowing?
Hilarious. You sir are a prize pillock.
Try driving a car before talking nonsense about it.
Who needs awd unless its snowing?
Hilarious. You sir are a prize pillock.
Try driving a car before talking nonsense about it.
All he's done here in 7 posts is defend the looks of the Civic, attack those that have questioned it and then made a nonsense statement attacking the Focus RS and 4WD cars in general.
He seems to be enjoying himself though. OP nipping down Tesco for Milk:-
Edited by Tuvra on Tuesday 24th January 07:35
yonex said:
One group of fanboys attacking another. Ironic.
Point out to me which part of my sensible post was in anyway fandom?Looks to me like owners who have some insight a little pee'd off with people who haven't even driven the car making assumptions garnered from reviews that spouted what they wanted to hear.
The RS has had positive reviews across the board, PH took a different stance which in further reviews seems to be swaying back towards the norm, I'm sure there will be more articles so brace yourself lol
Ahbefive said:
So your experiences are based on nothing? Yet you are stating like it is some kind of undisputed fact.
Who needs awd unless its snowing?
Hilarious. You sir are a prize pillock.
Try driving a car before talking nonsense about it.
So at what stage on a public road do you actually need 4wd? Unless you live in a rural area with country roads and no speed cameras or private land maybe. Who needs awd unless its snowing?
Hilarious. You sir are a prize pillock.
Try driving a car before talking nonsense about it.
Edited by David-kotos on Tuesday 24th January 17:44
Edited by David-kotos on Tuesday 24th January 17:47
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