RE: Mountain bike rack vs. Jaguar: PH Videoblog
Discussion
nickfrog said:
Hold on. It is possible to be both a keen cyclist AND a keen driver ?
If you are intelligent, interesting, outgoing and sociable yes. Ontopic- I'll stick to my towbar mounted rack. There's no security with the sucker setup? Saying that same again anyway at motorway services
405dogvan said:
The worst people I know are ignorant drivers AND ignorant cyclists - they literally complain constantly about cyclists until they are one when their behaviour is justified as 'all other cyclists do it so I do...'
This isn't you by any chance is it? 
https://youtu.be/2PFRdEUN240
Seriously though I agree with what you're saying, they can be rather hypocritical to say the least, I know a couple of people with that mindset.
Sea suckers have a good reputation and it's only the risk with a panoramic moving sunroof that stopped me using them on my 911. Had to go down the Porsche roof bars for that. That's just the road bikes though on the special toy. The MTB's covered in cack go on the towbar rack on the back of the estate.
Ps. Good to see they do factory fit bolt through axle options too. The 110mm boost on my Orange is a pain for other racks.
Ps. Good to see they do factory fit bolt through axle options too. The 110mm boost on my Orange is a pain for other racks.
hornbaek said:
I have used Sea Suckers for the best part of 3 years now on varios cars (Aston V12V, GT3 RS and even my wife 596 Abarth convertible - using the rear window) and I have never had a problem. .
What about the paint work on the car? I'd love to try this but would be really worried about scratching the paint on the Aston as it seems to scratch if you so much as look at it funny.Firstly and most importantly great choice of bike brand and colour! I have an Orange Strange Blood and an Orange M140i!
But a few things about the product and vid I'm not sure about.
The suction cups, what's that going to do to the paintwork over time? The crank movement and risk of pedal hitting bodywork/glass is a concern and it's incredibly expensive for what it is.
Onto the vid, it's great to see a product being tested in anger but how inconsiderate to park the car in the middle of the road and just mosey off for a ride! Also you were nowhere near muddy enough to have had too much fun :P
But a few things about the product and vid I'm not sure about.
The suction cups, what's that going to do to the paintwork over time? The crank movement and risk of pedal hitting bodywork/glass is a concern and it's incredibly expensive for what it is.
Onto the vid, it's great to see a product being tested in anger but how inconsiderate to park the car in the middle of the road and just mosey off for a ride! Also you were nowhere near muddy enough to have had too much fun :P
QuattroDave said:
Firstly and most importantly great choice of bike brand and colour! I have an Orange Strange Blood and an Orange M140i!
But a few things about the product and vid I'm not sure about.
The suction cups, what's that going to do to the paintwork over time? The crank movement and risk of pedal hitting bodywork/glass is a concern and it's incredibly expensive for what it is.
Onto the vid, it's great to see a product being tested in anger but how inconsiderate to park the car in the middle of the road and just mosey off for a ride! Also you were nowhere near muddy enough to have had too much fun :P
I just disappointed that the bike & the Jag aren't perfectly colour matched. But a few things about the product and vid I'm not sure about.
The suction cups, what's that going to do to the paintwork over time? The crank movement and risk of pedal hitting bodywork/glass is a concern and it's incredibly expensive for what it is.
Onto the vid, it's great to see a product being tested in anger but how inconsiderate to park the car in the middle of the road and just mosey off for a ride! Also you were nowhere near muddy enough to have had too much fun :P
Nik Gnashers said:
It does look like a well designed bit of kit, but extremely expensive for what is essentially a couple of triple-sucker pads.
As a very keen mountain biker myself, who travels 100+ miles each way every weekend to ride, I can't help thinking .... who in their right mind, would use a 50 grand car, to go mountain biking ?
If you can afford a 50 grand motor, and a 4 grand bike, then surely you can buy a £500 shed to use just for bike transport. That way you can have the bike safely either inside the car (or cheap van), or on a tow-bar mount. Also you can drive back covered in mud without destroying said 50 grand car's posh interior ?
I personally use a Thule tow-bar mount, as any roof mounted carriers in the past have made my mpg shoot up (wind resistance) and been extremely noisy.
Hmmmm not sure I agree with this.As a very keen mountain biker myself, who travels 100+ miles each way every weekend to ride, I can't help thinking .... who in their right mind, would use a 50 grand car, to go mountain biking ?
If you can afford a 50 grand motor, and a 4 grand bike, then surely you can buy a £500 shed to use just for bike transport. That way you can have the bike safely either inside the car (or cheap van), or on a tow-bar mount. Also you can drive back covered in mud without destroying said 50 grand car's posh interior ?
I personally use a Thule tow-bar mount, as any roof mounted carriers in the past have made my mpg shoot up (wind resistance) and been extremely noisy.
Although I only go out once, maybe twice a month, some of the journeys can be long, e.g. Yorkshire to Llandegla. I can't think of a better place to spend the journey than a plush '50 grand' car. Afterall most trail centres have changing facilities (for the shy men amongst us)! Granted we have an RRS so do just put the bikes in the boot with the seats flat, perhaps if I had another 20k to put into a Transporter... but that's another story
Not sure a £500 shed would have heated seats, which if you ride through the winter are a godsend!
Just my 50p though, each to their own.
Do agree the seesucker seems awfully expensive regardless.
A mountain bike might only be 15kg, but approximating the distances by eye of the width of the front suckers and the rough height of the COG of the bike means you'd have a force of about one and a half times that acting in opposite directions on each sucker (so -22.5kg on one and +22.5kg on the other) whilst cornering at 1G (about the maximum cornering ability of a semi-sporty car). I wouldn't fancy that on a thin steel body panel! I'd have designed it with a greater or even extendable width between the front suckers personally.
As others have said, you'd need to make very sure both the suckers and paint is spotless before mounting it or you'll end up scratching the paint, much as with magnetic tank bags on motorcycles.
As others have said, you'd need to make very sure both the suckers and paint is spotless before mounting it or you'll end up scratching the paint, much as with magnetic tank bags on motorcycles.
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