Cycling on the pavement not to be prosecuted

[saaby93]

Will we see more adults like this on quiet roads in leafy suburbs



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38688256
Janet Street Porter says pedestrian rights are bing eroded
and the beeb brings out loads of examples of wide dual purpose ways in other countries not like above

The 1.5 metre over taking rule applies too



but probably not the 1.5metre undertaking ?

[frisbee]

Bloody cyclists, constantly crushing cars and trucks with their undertaking!

And small children, cycling on pavements, jumpers for goal posts, they should also be shot!

I doth worship thee, oh glorious great motorist, sole payer of all taxes, homoeroticly ranting about lycra clad buttocks!

[ambuletz]

i think cycling on the pavement or in town centres is fine if you're basically riding very slow trying to get to somewhere. cycling on it at commuting speed with the idea of using it as a shortcut probably isnt.

[sparks_E39]

ambuletz said:

i think cycling on the pavement or in town centres is fine if you're basically riding very slow trying to get to somewhere. cycling on it at commuting speed with the idea of using it as a shortcut probably isnt.

I agree. I however think cycling without a helmet should be illegal, and all cycles should be fitted with lights front and rear as standard. I have nothing against cyclists, I used to work for a very popular cycling events company, but a lot of them would do well to take better care of themselves and be a little more conscious of what's going on around them.

[austinsmirk]

I wish I'd been cycling on the pavement tonight when a delightful lady in a Mercedes 4x4 swerved into my cycle lane, stopped dead and the passenger flung the door open.

I nearly, seriously hurt the passenger, but I managed to stop in time.

Honestly, wtf.

It's ok though because she was sorry.

[Loyly]

It's a good idea, keeping cyclists on the pavement, out of harm's way.

[ambuletz]

I disagree with the 'all fitted with lights'. perhaps sold with lights would be better. my road bike came with a pretty good pair of basic front/rear lights that also had reflectors as part of them.

[Roger Irrelevant]

SOMETHING ABOUT ROAD TAX AND RED LIGHTS

[anonymous-user]

On my commute there are loads of cycle paths but the road racers still use the road, even the fat ones.

[Ian Geary]

ambuletz said:

commuting speed

Commuting speed

Love that: "engine room, give me commuting speed NOW!"

From what I observe, commuting speed appears to be going as close to their maximum speed as possible, with desperate linges for the brakes interspersed with angry ranting.

Personally I don't think there's any place for that on pavements.

I would expect cyclists on the pavement to ride consideratly, and face points and fines for careless cycling (as should drivers on the roads)

But there's not enough resource to even police the roads as is, so there's zero chance of this happening I know.

Ian

[Willy Nilly]

sparks_E39 said:

ambuletz said:

i think cycling on the pavement or in town centres is fine if you're basically riding very slow trying to get to somewhere. cycling on it at commuting speed with the idea of using it as a shortcut probably isnt.

I agree. I however think cycling without a helmet should be illegal, and all cycles should be fitted with lights front and rear as standard. I have nothing against cyclists, I used to work for a very popular cycling events company, but a lot of them would do well to take better care of themselves and be a little more conscious of what's going on around them.

I don't wear a helmet and constantly get cut up, see mental overtakes and get overtaken while turning right. If I get knocked off and die, firstly, it's none of your business, secondly I'd rather be dead than live with life changing injuries that medicine can help me survive but with a crap quality of life.

I have also passed more driving tests than many.

[DoubleD]

Willy Nilly said:

sparks_E39 said:

ambuletz said:

i think cycling on the pavement or in town centres is fine if you're basically riding very slow trying to get to somewhere. cycling on it at commuting speed with the idea of using it as a shortcut probably isnt.

I agree. I however think cycling without a helmet should be illegal, and all cycles should be fitted with lights front and rear as standard. I have nothing against cyclists, I used to work for a very popular cycling events company, but a lot of them would do well to take better care of themselves and be a little more conscious of what's going on around them.

I don't wear a helmet and constantly get cut up, see mental overtakes and get overtaken while turning right. If I get knocked off and die, firstly, it's none of your business, secondly I'd rather be dead than live with life changing injuries that medicine can help me survive but with a crap quality of life.

I have also passed more driving tests than many.

I dont wear a helmet.....but your argument is flawed. A helmet could help you walk away from an accident, where as not wearing a helmet could leave you in a vegative state after an accident.

[powerstroke]

Come on guys cyclists are already exempt from all laws ,

[problemchild1976]

helmets/pavements/cycle paths/roads

all support different kinds of cycling

can't mandate helmets on cyclists or you'd have to mandate them on pedestrians as they get hit by cars just as often

i'm not against cycling on pavements if the rider has awareness of pedestrians

if more car drivers had awareness of cyclists they wouldn't have to!

today i saw a tipper lorry following a bike at 15mph. as the tipper lorry indicated to turn left, the car waiting to pull out of the side turniing pulled out in front of the cyclist.

i would have felt sorry for her if she hadn't then run the next red light!

oh - and another cyclist i keep seeing has a red light on the front and green on the rear - not good to stop people pulling out in front of you

JJ

[Brads67]

It`s never been illegal to cycle on a pavement anyway.

In Scotland anyway .

[deltashad]

The top image shows a typical cyclist in Northern central europe.

99.9 percent of the bikes are relaxed town bikes. They look like type your mother or grandmother would have ridden, don't be fooled, many are quite advanced and expensive.

They have wide pavements to ride on with a dedicated cycle partition which sometimes transfers on to the road.
If you walk on the cycle part of the pavement/road someone will ring their bell to discretely warn you to get of the way.

The cyclist will stop at a supermarket, they are equipped with a quick release basket. They use this to do their shopping.


Now, Uk cycling. Let's be honest, it's a totally different ball game.

[PositronicRay]

I had words with a youth peddling furiously on crowded narrow pavement, almost knocking over an elderly woman.

He informed me it was ok to ride on the pavement because it wasn't a bike but a BMX and BMXs don't have brakes therefor shouldn't be on the road.

Bikes should all have bells.

[Blaster72]

deltashad said:

Now, Uk cycling. Let's be honest, it's a totally different ball game.

It is around my way. Ever since the Olympics the local roads have been infested with selfish lycra clad lunatics so obsessed with beating some sort of imaginary time trial (aka Strava) that they slow for nothing and take incredible risks.

[problemchild1976]

its not imaginary - apps allow you to race yesterdays time or other people registered on that same stretch

JJ

[Blaster72]

It isn't real, they aren't competing even though they act like it on the public roads. Fair enough on closed roads or during organised events but the loons around here do it in heavy traffic to beat a time set by someone they'll never meet on an app on their phone. Bonkers.