Cycling on the pavement not to be prosecuted
Discussion
As above, not a fan of pavements for bikes Shared "cycle" lanes seem to be an accident waiting to happen in towns.
Of course, if (the minority of f
kwits in) cars, trucks et al gave a bit of space around bikes then people would feel safer riding on the roads as normal.
https://youtu.be/ncUWOnGX5-A?t=6m47s
This is the major reason that stops people riding on the road IMO.
Cyclists, people on bikes, it doesn't matter. As long as we put so many obstacles in place that they go back to their cars, all is good!See how that works out when you flood the rush hour with 20% (generic guess) more cars.
If all cyclists were considerate then pavement cycling would work as it does in Tokyo which is obviously far more crowded than any UK city.
If cyclists want to go racing then they should do the same as any driver who wants to race and go to a track or velodrome.
For the minority of cyclists who race along on the roads and think they are the next Wiggins, they need to learn consideration for other road users - drivers and pedestrians. Also to respect red lights, traffic signs, etc.So you want them to ride deliberately slower? Surely that will increase congestion 
In other news. Can you walk a bit slower too. And also NEVER drive at the speed limit but 25% slower.
Yup. But whilst 98% of people know this to be true on both sides. There's always, on PH, a handful of posters who will literally see the word "cyclist" on a thread and start going on about red lights and dangerous and any other number of stereotypes
Low IQ I guess. Or some kind of fixation obsession
Of course, if (the minority of f
kwits in) cars, trucks et al gave a bit of space around bikes then people would feel safer riding on the roads as normal. https://youtu.be/ncUWOnGX5-A?t=6m47s
This is the major reason that stops people riding on the road IMO.
frisbee said:
motco said:
swerni said:
If you go to holland you see very few people wearing helmets.
Ah, but they are people on bicycles, not 'cyclists'!Jagmanv12 said:
benjijames28 said:
On the other hand I was taught manners and to consider other people, so you move out of the way of pedestrians and keep your speed low.
Exactly.If all cyclists were considerate then pavement cycling would work as it does in Tokyo which is obviously far more crowded than any UK city.
If cyclists want to go racing then they should do the same as any driver who wants to race and go to a track or velodrome.
For the minority of cyclists who race along on the roads and think they are the next Wiggins, they need to learn consideration for other road users - drivers and pedestrians. Also to respect red lights, traffic signs, etc.
In other news. Can you walk a bit slower too. And also NEVER drive at the speed limit but 25% slower.DoubleD said:
So yet again on one of these car drivers vs cyclists we have established that you get good and bad from all road users.
Yup. But whilst 98% of people know this to be true on both sides. There's always, on PH, a handful of posters who will literally see the word "cyclist" on a thread and start going on about red lights and dangerous and any other number of stereotypes
Low IQ I guess. Or some kind of fixation obsession
Rich_W said:
As above, not a fan of pavements for bikes Shared "cycle" lanes seem to be an accident waiting to happen in towns.
Of course, if (the minority of fkwits in) cars, trucks et al gave a bit of space around bikes then people would feel safer riding on the roads as normal.
https://youtu.be/ncUWOnGX5-A?t=6m47s
This is the major reason that stops people riding on the road IMO.
Cyclists, people on bikes, it doesn't matter. As long as we put so many obstacles in place that they go back to their cars, all is good!See how that works out when you flood the rush hour with 20% (generic guess) more cars.
If all cyclists were considerate then pavement cycling would work as it does in Tokyo which is obviously far more crowded than any UK city.
If cyclists want to go racing then they should do the same as any driver who wants to race and go to a track or velodrome.
For the minority of cyclists who race along on the roads and think they are the next Wiggins, they need to learn consideration for other road users - drivers and pedestrians. Also to respect red lights, traffic signs, etc.So you want them to ride deliberately slower? Surely that will increase congestion In other news. Can you walk a bit slower too. And also NEVER drive at the speed limit but 25% slower.
Yup. But whilst 98% of people know this to be true on both sides. There's always, on PH, a handful of posters who will literally see the word "cyclist" on a thread and start going on about red lights and dangerous and any other number of stereotypes
Low IQ I guess. Or some kind of fixation obsession
True, but there are also some on here who seem to think that cyclists are never at fault for anything.Of course, if (the minority of f
kwits in) cars, trucks et al gave a bit of space around bikes then people would feel safer riding on the roads as normal. https://youtu.be/ncUWOnGX5-A?t=6m47s
This is the major reason that stops people riding on the road IMO.
frisbee said:
motco said:
swerni said:
If you go to holland you see very few people wearing helmets.
Ah, but they are people on bicycles, not 'cyclists'!Jagmanv12 said:
benjijames28 said:
On the other hand I was taught manners and to consider other people, so you move out of the way of pedestrians and keep your speed low.
Exactly.If all cyclists were considerate then pavement cycling would work as it does in Tokyo which is obviously far more crowded than any UK city.
If cyclists want to go racing then they should do the same as any driver who wants to race and go to a track or velodrome.
For the minority of cyclists who race along on the roads and think they are the next Wiggins, they need to learn consideration for other road users - drivers and pedestrians. Also to respect red lights, traffic signs, etc.
In other news. Can you walk a bit slower too. And also NEVER drive at the speed limit but 25% slower.DoubleD said:
So yet again on one of these car drivers vs cyclists we have established that you get good and bad from all road users.
Yup. But whilst 98% of people know this to be true on both sides. There's always, on PH, a handful of posters who will literally see the word "cyclist" on a thread and start going on about red lights and dangerous and any other number of stereotypes
Low IQ I guess. Or some kind of fixation obsession
Like i said, good and bad from all road users.
Willy Nilly said:
DoubleD said:
Willy Nilly said:
sparks_E39 said:
ambuletz said:
i think cycling on the pavement or in town centres is fine if you're basically riding very slow trying to get to somewhere. cycling on it at commuting speed with the idea of using it as a shortcut probably isnt.
I agree. I however think cycling without a helmet should be illegal, and all cycles should be fitted with lights front and rear as standard. I have nothing against cyclists, I used to work for a very popular cycling events company, but a lot of them would do well to take better care of themselves and be a little more conscious of what's going on around them. I have also passed more driving tests than many.
As for the pavement, I generally dont, no need to but sometimes at the end of a journey I may jib onto the pavement, or at one very dodgy junction I cycle round it but at walking pace, when on the pavement, which is like is 0.01 percent of the time I dont want to hurt or annoy anyone, it is quite simple, shouldnt be going faster than you can walk on the pavement (as opposed to shared use cycle paths) by and large, at walking pace you present no more danger to pedestrians than another pedestrian, if not sure, get off and walk with the bike.
If you apply common sense, care and courtesy, then you generally dont have any problems.
DoubleD said:
So yet again on one of these car drivers vs cyclists we have established that you get good and bad from all road users.
How does this always go full circle back to drivers vs cyclists? Shirley the exercise of this debate is 'should cyclists be allowed to ride on the pavement in the UK?' no?
deltashad said:
WinstonWolf said:
If that's the opinion of the self appointed intelligentsia I'll take being a non coked up cyclist every day :flicksvees:
Good on you Winston. That's my opinion. Whats your opinion with adults cycling on pavements in the UK? Not on cocaine obviously.
I let common sense be my guide...
WinstonWolf said:
Far too many scenarios to give a blanket answer. Where the road is the best option use the road, where the pavement makes more sense use that. Each and every journey is different.
I let common sense be my guide...
Which is what I do as well. I live in a busy commuter town and if I cycle to the station then I use the road, if I take my son to school on our bikes (he is 9) then we use the pavement and ride gently. I would certainly not have him cycle in the road.I let common sense be my guide...
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