RE: Lamborghini Aventador S: Review
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big_rob_sydney said:
405dogvan said:
big_rob_sydney said:
So, roughly triple the price of a GTR only to have less performance unless chasing VMAX.
How on earth they find enough gullible fools to buy these is beyond me.
Same argument can be applied to "insert tuner car here" and misses the point entirely.How on earth they find enough gullible fools to buy these is beyond me.
The GTR is a Nissan - this is a Lamborghini, drive them around other humans and their reactions explain the difference better than I ever could(*)
(*) and whatever petrolheads say about it, how your car looks and how people react to it matters to almost every single one of them - even if it's a lack of reaction that they crave, it matters.
The GTR is a standard car, from a major manufacturer.
As far as reactions go, sorry, but that's just the whining emanating from shallow blowhards who crave validation from other shallow idiots.
sidesauce said:
big_rob_sydney said:
that's just the whining emanating from shallow blowhards who crave validation from other shallow idiots.
Based on what? Your opinion? How exactly can you empirically prove that in every single case?"how your car looks and how people react to it matters to almost every single one of them - even if it's a lack of reaction that they crave, it matters"
This is meant to be a performance car. Yet, NOTHING in that statement speaks to performance, and everything speaks to perception. Perception "by/of me", and how people may "crave" it from others.
What a sad, sad view of the world, and what a pathetic existence from what must be tremendously shallow self-esteem, if indeed there even is any to begin with.
Alternative: grab 700bhp moster, drive its bloody wheels off, without giving a f
k what others think?big_rob_sydney said:
So, roughly triple the price of a GTR only to have less performance unless chasing VMAX.
How on earth they find enough gullible fools to buy these is beyond me.
Why spend £50K on a Richard Mille watch when a £50 Casio will tell the time just as well etc, etc.How on earth they find enough gullible fools to buy these is beyond me.
I'd rather an F12 TDF to be honest.
The Wookie said:
WJNB said:
Once the darling of the Knightsbridge set have not such blatant expressions of wealth become more the northern drug-dealers wheels of choice these days? Unsure? Think of recent media images & Youtube clips depicting buyers showing-off as they collect them from dealers. Hardly discreet & all a bit down-market & naff.
Don't care, still want one. Don't care how Chav everyone thinks it is, how much of a bell-end the vast proportion of the population would think I am, how utterly impractical and pointless it is, it's a 700 horsepower, V12 Lamborghini.
If seeing and hearing one of them tear up the road doesn't cause you to emit an involuntary 'phwwwaoooaahhhhh' then you're either not a petrolhead, an incredible snob or have no soul IMHO
But we already know that these people have no soul, they are really paled skin with grey blood running through there veins...gah!
big_rob_sydney said:
405dogvan said:
big_rob_sydney said:
So, roughly triple the price of a GTR only to have less performance unless chasing VMAX.
How on earth they find enough gullible fools to buy these is beyond me.
Same argument can be applied to "insert tuner car here" and misses the point entirely.How on earth they find enough gullible fools to buy these is beyond me.
The GTR is a Nissan - this is a Lamborghini, drive them around other humans and their reactions explain the difference better than I ever could(*)
(*) and whatever petrolheads say about it, how your car looks and how people react to it matters to almost every single one of them - even if it's a lack of reaction that they crave, it matters.
The GTR is a standard car, from a major manufacturer.
As far as reactions go, sorry, but that's just the whining emanating from shallow blowhards who crave validation from other shallow idiots.
How cars look and what badge they wear matters to EVERY SINGLE PERSON who's interested in cars, even if it's lack of image which they crave, it still matters.
Image/Brand is FUNDAMENTAL to the way the motor industry works and it outweighs EVERYTHING else - this even applies to people buying a car 'purely for transport' (seldom the case)
NO-ONE (who's interested in cars) buys a car purely on performance stats or journalist reviews or cupholder count - image/brand matters, badges matter and so on.
Look at the cars for-sale and you'll quickly notice the VAST majority have no real point if you purely measure 'performance' or 'seating' or 'economy' but when you realise how much a car's image really matters to people - that it's price alone is a factor in that image too - things make (a bit) more sense.
As I said, GTR will never do what a Lamborghini does - ever - and vice-versa - vive le difference - takes allsorts and so on...
Edited by 405dogvan on Tuesday 24th January 22:06
405dogvan said:
big_rob_sydney said:
405dogvan said:
big_rob_sydney said:
So, roughly triple the price of a GTR only to have less performance unless chasing VMAX.
How on earth they find enough gullible fools to buy these is beyond me.
Same argument can be applied to "insert tuner car here" and misses the point entirely.How on earth they find enough gullible fools to buy these is beyond me.
The GTR is a Nissan - this is a Lamborghini, drive them around other humans and their reactions explain the difference better than I ever could(*)
(*) and whatever petrolheads say about it, how your car looks and how people react to it matters to almost every single one of them - even if it's a lack of reaction that they crave, it matters.
The GTR is a standard car, from a major manufacturer.
As far as reactions go, sorry, but that's just the whining emanating from shallow blowhards who crave validation from other shallow idiots.
How cars look and what badge they wear matters to EVERY SINGLE PERSON who's interested in cars, even if it's lack of image which they crave, it still matters.
Image/Brand is FUNDAMENTAL to the way the motor industry works and it outweighs EVERYTHING else - this even applies to people buying a car 'purely for transport' (seldom the case)
NO-ONE (who's interested in cars) buys a car purely on performance stats or journalist reviews or cupholder count - image/brand matters, badges matter and so on.
Look at the cars for-sale and you'll quickly notice the VAST majority have no real point if you purely measure 'performance' or 'seating' or 'economy' but when you realise how much a car's image really matters to people - that it's price alone is a factor in that image too - things make (a bit) more sense.
As I said, GTR will never do what a Lamborghini does - ever - and vice-versa - vive le difference - takes allsorts and so on...
Edited by 405dogvan on Tuesday 24th January 22:06
405dogvan said:
Boy is someone deluded - and not just calling a hand-made car from a custom factory a 'standard car' (if the GTR is a standard car, so is the LaFerrari)
How cars look and what badge they wear matters to EVERY SINGLE PERSON who's interested in cars, even if it's lack of image which they crave, it still matters.
Image/Brand is FUNDAMENTAL to the way the motor industry works and it outweighs EVERYTHING else - this even applies to people buying a car 'purely for transport' (seldom the case)
NO-ONE (who's interested in cars) buys a car purely on performance stats or journalist reviews or cupholder count - image/brand matters, badges matter and so on.
Look at the cars for-sale and you'll quickly notice the VAST majority have no real point if you purely measure 'performance' or 'seating' or 'economy' but when you realise how much a car's image really matters to people - that it's price alone is a factor in that image too - things make (a bit) more sense.
As I said, GTR will never do what a Lamborghini does - ever - and vice-versa - vive le difference - takes allsorts and so on...
"methinks thou doth protest too much"How cars look and what badge they wear matters to EVERY SINGLE PERSON who's interested in cars, even if it's lack of image which they crave, it still matters.
Image/Brand is FUNDAMENTAL to the way the motor industry works and it outweighs EVERYTHING else - this even applies to people buying a car 'purely for transport' (seldom the case)
NO-ONE (who's interested in cars) buys a car purely on performance stats or journalist reviews or cupholder count - image/brand matters, badges matter and so on.
Look at the cars for-sale and you'll quickly notice the VAST majority have no real point if you purely measure 'performance' or 'seating' or 'economy' but when you realise how much a car's image really matters to people - that it's price alone is a factor in that image too - things make (a bit) more sense.
As I said, GTR will never do what a Lamborghini does - ever - and vice-versa - vive le difference - takes allsorts and so on...
Edited by 405dogvan on Tuesday 24th January 22:06
Too subtle for you?
I've never even touched a cigarette, ok I drink alcohol but I'm not middle eastern and definitely don't prescribe drugs. I'm middle class boring and yet there is nothing better than opening the garage door and seeing the rear of your Lambo beckoning to be taken out.
I'll probably buy a "proper supercar" next, something that Harris et al approves of, but I know it will never replace the Lambo experience - which clearly still winds up proper PetrolHeads - who know their cars. And that's almost priceless.
The fact it can stir up such hostility from both the PetrolHead community and the man on the street is part of the fun. "Who's the f@@ing w@@k@r with the Lambo?" were the words from a lady at a party who didn't know she was talking to the owner. So much fun. But when I gave her a lift home, I had to remove her hand from my thigh and remind her I was married. So much fun!
I'll probably buy a "proper supercar" next, something that Harris et al approves of, but I know it will never replace the Lambo experience - which clearly still winds up proper PetrolHeads - who know their cars. And that's almost priceless.
The fact it can stir up such hostility from both the PetrolHead community and the man on the street is part of the fun. "Who's the f@@ing w@@k@r with the Lambo?" were the words from a lady at a party who didn't know she was talking to the owner. So much fun. But when I gave her a lift home, I had to remove her hand from my thigh and remind her I was married. So much fun!
rampageturke said:
projecting a little too much there buddy
So you're saying that some people who aren't just buying 'white goods' don't care how their car looks or what it's brand says about them?In true Ron Burgundy style - I don't believe you ;0
Even if you choose against the grain, that still means it matters to you - if people started to choose cars purely on performance/handling/economy metrics, the entire car industry would collapse overnight because it's absolutely shored-up by brand image and by perceived value.
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