Pirelli PZero Split: is it safe?

Pirelli PZero Split: is it safe?

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djmhughesuk

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20 posts

108 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Last week I had re fitted some Conti winter tyres that I had used last year ready for the cold weather/snow. So the Pirelli Zeros tyres that I had on the car - two that where on the front where chucked and the rear two where kept as they are about half worn. However, the tyre fitter noticed that on one of the tyres rim/bead had a split in it (see pictures). I did not notice any great loss of air from any of the tyres if this split was made at time of fitting or the split was made when the tyre was taken off? I know that Pirelli are a PITA to fit as they have a strong/stiff bead compared to other makes. The other tyre (Same axel) is fine with no marks.

Pirelli PZero 225/45/17 94Y Made: 0215
VW Golf GTi Mk.5

tear1 by Darren Hughes, on Flickr

tear2 by Darren Hughes, on Flickr

Question is would you re-fit this tyre to your car?
I am leading to think just scrap it and by a new set.



Sump

5,484 posts

168 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Personally wouldn't fit but nothing is gonna happen driving with that.

delta0

2,355 posts

107 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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That looks like the part that clamps against the wheel to keep the air in. I think this is a significant load bearing part and so I wouldn't refit it.

RDMcG

19,192 posts

208 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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I would also be uncomfortable.

steve-5snwi

8,681 posts

94 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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I can see steel, I wouldn't fit it.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

173 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Scrap tyre

Silverage

2,034 posts

131 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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I'd be binning that.

djmhughesuk

Original Poster:

20 posts

108 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Exactly dibbers006. If I am asking this question in the first place then I know the answer to my own question - scrap/unsafe.

Thank you all for the reassurance that this tyre is scrap.

CoolHands

18,698 posts

196 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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It can only be fitter tool that damaged it, either putting it on last time or taking it of this time. Never prove it. Annoying.

caelite

4,275 posts

113 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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I had a Kumho Ecsta with similar damage on my old MG. Tyre was like that for 4k or so miles, I didn't die but I had to rebead it a few times as it caused a slow puncture which wierdly seemed to resolve itself for a month or two when it was rebeaded.

Alias218

1,498 posts

163 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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For the sake of £130 (I guess) I would be replacing that. As others have said, if you're questioning it then you already know the answer.

If that blew out at 80mph you would be wishing you had replaced it.

djmhughesuk

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20 posts

108 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Cheers all for the replies. Appreciated. smile

shakindog

489 posts

151 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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That is what's knownas a ripped bead.
Tyre is scrap.
brand new tyres that have that damage by a ham fisted fitter are scrapped straight away. Even in the big chains.
The bead is compromised and more than likely won't seal and if it does will turn into a bulge on the sidewall over time.
The saying goes in the trade. Your not a tyre fitter till you've ripped a tyre

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

173 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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shakindog said:

The saying goes in the trade. Your not a tyre fitter till you've ripped a tyre
I was a tyre fitter for a year but I guess not a "real" tyre fitter as I never damaged any tyres.

shakindog

489 posts

151 months

Saturday 21st January 2017
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Ahbefive said:
shakindog said:

The saying goes in the trade. Your not a tyre fitter till you've ripped a tyre
I was a tyre fitter for a year but I guess not a "real" tyre fitter as I never damaged any tyres.
Not trying hard enough to be a ham fisted ape like MOST of your colleagues.