Second-hand tyres put lives at risk, councils warn
Discussion
V8RX7 said:
George111 said:
What else can we scavenge from crashed, written off and impounded then crushed cars ?
Everything - you're supposed to recycle for the environment 
Who do you think the biggest buyers for part worns are ?
Car dealers
I don't see anybody jumping at the idea of using second hand oil ! Maybe the risk there is their wallets are hurt rather than other people when their skinflint, dodgy tyres fail. Odd that isn't it
Honestly, if somebody can't afford new, decent tyres for their car then either they can't afford to run a car or their priorities are screwed up.
And as for the bloke who appears to have a good job and a nice car for himself but makes his wife drive a Kia something with dodgy used tyres from a dodgy sounding garage, to hell with her safety as long as you're OK ! I couldn't believe you'd even done that let alone posted it on a forum for others to see.
George111 said:
I'm sure there's another group too . . . those with PCP/Lease cars about to go back and in need of tyres !
I don't see anybody jumping at the idea of using second hand oil ! Maybe the risk there is their wallets are hurt rather than other people when their skinflint, dodgy tyres fail. Odd that isn't it
Honestly, if somebody can't afford new, decent tyres for their car then either they can't afford to run a car or their priorities are screwed up.
And as for the bloke who appears to have a good job and a nice car for himself but makes his wife drive a Kia something with dodgy used tyres from a dodgy sounding garage, to hell with her safety as long as you're OK ! I couldn't believe you'd even done that let alone posted it on a forum for others to see.
I knew a bloke like that. His wife had to drive round in a tiny old shed, he changed cars every two years and always spent quite abit. His wife started fooling about. Can't see why.I don't see anybody jumping at the idea of using second hand oil ! Maybe the risk there is their wallets are hurt rather than other people when their skinflint, dodgy tyres fail. Odd that isn't it
Honestly, if somebody can't afford new, decent tyres for their car then either they can't afford to run a car or their priorities are screwed up.
And as for the bloke who appears to have a good job and a nice car for himself but makes his wife drive a Kia something with dodgy used tyres from a dodgy sounding garage, to hell with her safety as long as you're OK ! I couldn't believe you'd even done that let alone posted it on a forum for others to see.
George111 said:
V8RX7 said:
George111 said:
What else can we scavenge from crashed, written off and impounded then crushed cars ?
Everything - you're supposed to recycle for the environment Who do you think the biggest buyers for part worns are ?
Car dealers
I sold them for the price I'd paid inc the wheels so I got the wheels for free.
The guy buying them was putting them on a lease car that was soon to be returned.
So where does that leave the arguement that everyone is happy to have used tyres on a car but not buy used tyres ?
Because we both agree that the biggest buyers, are putting them on cars to sell !
V8RX7 said:
So where does that leave the arguement that everyone is happy to have used tyres on a car but not buy used tyres ?
Because we both agree that the biggest buyers, are putting them on cars to sell !
Well, you can't pick and choose the tyres on a used car but you can replace them asap. Otherwise you're in the lap of the tyre Gods Because we both agree that the biggest buyers, are putting them on cars to sell !
and age. anything over 5-6 years is coming to end of life. a tyre could be 10 years old and have loads of tread. that is what helped to end Paul Walker's (along with a mate who had more ego than talent in a tricky car with 600 bhp and no traction!)
check the 4 digit number on the side wall - if it has 12 or 11 at the end then time for change. 0411 means 4th week of 2011 and those tyres are nearly 6 years old.
councils are a bloody cheek. what about the chasm sized potholes they leave in the roads this time of year. or in fact all year road. fix the f
king roads you morons and people will be less likely to fit second hand tyres as fed up with £200 bills for new tyres.
and then the councils have the cheek to say they are not paying out as its only been there for a few weeks or nor reports. it still shagged my tyre, wheels and suspension you useless fks.
check the 4 digit number on the side wall - if it has 12 or 11 at the end then time for change. 0411 means 4th week of 2011 and those tyres are nearly 6 years old.
councils are a bloody cheek. what about the chasm sized potholes they leave in the roads this time of year. or in fact all year road. fix the f
king roads you morons and people will be less likely to fit second hand tyres as fed up with £200 bills for new tyres. and then the councils have the cheek to say they are not paying out as its only been there for a few weeks or nor reports. it still shagged my tyre, wheels and suspension you useless f
ks. talksthetorque said:
The oil thing is a red herring.
Of course it is. Nevertheless back in the days when I had an old Volvo that burnt about 1L/1000 mile and a Caterham that didn't but got frequent oil changes, I used to reuse the Caterham's oil in the Volly. Waste not, want not. It went 3 years like that and eventually failed the MoT on a couple of trivial bits that I just couldn't be bothered to fix.DasChin said:
and then the councils have the cheek to say they are not paying out as its only been there for a few weeks or nor reports. it still shagged my tyre, wheels and suspension you useless fks.
I know it's a little jobsworth but I've started to report potholes on potholes.co.uk. To my surprise I've actually noticed a few that I've reported get fixed.ks. It takes a little time to do but the council won't see everything that goes on in the borough and will rely on residents to report road defects and other things that require fixing. If nobody reports anything, the council won't know to fix it.
My road had a few potholes appear after the snow 10 days ago, 2 on the commute to my wife's work and 2 on the approach to a roundabout on Epsom Downs that were nasty and I reported all of them via this method and they've all been filled.
Edited by ashleyman on Monday 23 January 09:42
Granfondo said:
They could have plenty tread but still be unsafe!
So can any tyre that has never left a car but been kerbed, run over a bottle, or anything else. "But I'd know!" No you wouldn't, I drive 500 miles a week at the moment, most of it in the dark. That's before I lend my car to someone who can't drive properly.talksthetorque said:
The oil thing is a red herring. Tyres have a visible life indicator. The depth of the tread.
Nondense, that's not the only indicator of life of a tyre but you often won't be able to see the others.Oil can be very easily tested and strained, nothing wrong with reusing oil is there, if you reuse tyres ?
Bought Merc C class and after a few thousand miles changed all four tyres. Kept the rears (Continentals) as they had 3mm and are the same size as E36 328i Sport, which I was hoping to buy as a track car.
Didn't buy an E36 so sold tyres on eBay, bought by trader to go on a CLK. Somewhere, somebody in a CLK is unknowingly driving on my old, part worn tyres. 2015 date code though.
Then bought an E39 to fix up. Rear grip lacking, so replaced Primewalls with part worn Michelins. Rear grip now excellent. Fixed up and sold on eBay to a trader. Somewhere, somebody in an E39 is unknowingly driving on part worn Michelins.
Bought MG ZR as a track car, currently has Landsails fitted to the front. These are awful, and I have a track day in a few weeks. I could go and buy super duper Yokohama AD08Rs, but what I'd like is a pair of decent part worns. However, as mentioned elsewhere they are about 60%-70% of the cost of new, and the few that I have seen have had repairs and/or haven't been very good. In short, lots of work to save maybe £70. Shame really; it feels wrong to fit brand new tyres and then go straight to the track, but equally I don't want to waste the day if a part worn develops an issue.
Summary - I'd never fit part worns to my main car but would happily do so for my project cars if the price and availability is right.
Didn't buy an E36 so sold tyres on eBay, bought by trader to go on a CLK. Somewhere, somebody in a CLK is unknowingly driving on my old, part worn tyres. 2015 date code though.
Then bought an E39 to fix up. Rear grip lacking, so replaced Primewalls with part worn Michelins. Rear grip now excellent. Fixed up and sold on eBay to a trader. Somewhere, somebody in an E39 is unknowingly driving on part worn Michelins.
Bought MG ZR as a track car, currently has Landsails fitted to the front. These are awful, and I have a track day in a few weeks. I could go and buy super duper Yokohama AD08Rs, but what I'd like is a pair of decent part worns. However, as mentioned elsewhere they are about 60%-70% of the cost of new, and the few that I have seen have had repairs and/or haven't been very good. In short, lots of work to save maybe £70. Shame really; it feels wrong to fit brand new tyres and then go straight to the track, but equally I don't want to waste the day if a part worn develops an issue.
Summary - I'd never fit part worns to my main car but would happily do so for my project cars if the price and availability is right.
battered said:
Granfondo said:
They could have plenty tread but still be unsafe!
So can any tyre that has never left a car but been kerbed, run over a bottle, or anything else. "But I'd know!" No you wouldn't, I drive 500 miles a week at the moment, most of it in the dark. That's before I lend my car to someone who can't drive properly.
hora said:
I knew a bloke like that. His wife had to drive round in a tiny old shed, he changed cars every two years and always spent quite abit. His wife started fooling about. Can't see why.
Awesome and very funny. 
I was going to ignore this but I gave in and came to defend myself.What major safety threat am I subjecting my family to with these used tyres? I have had new cars with new tyres and old cars with old tyres and still had flats or "blowouts" on the motorway and have never ended up with the car on its roof or in the barrier.
I could understand your concern if we were talking remoulds.
My wife's "tiny" Kia is a great big f
k off family friendly 2003 Kia Sorento battle wagon - it has just been replaced by a 2003 Volvo XC90.The Kia is old but very well maintained - my wife loved it and drove it by choice - I offered her my new Passat Alltrack when we got it but she prefered the Kia - I prefer the Kia day to day, We still have it and I honestly can't decide which car to get rid of.
My wife's car does about 3000 miles a year, mainly just running around locally.
The used tyres I put on were premium brand mud and snow tyres with plenty of tread and I checked the tyres myself before they fitted them. I check the pressure and condiction regularly.
We live on the side of a hill - if I had not changed the tyres, the existing ones would have been dangerous in the snow we had the other week.
Maybe we should not have driven in the snow, as that is "dangerous"?
Hopefully, if she ever reads this post she will have second thoughts about fooling around, as she will understand that me not buying her a brand new Audi Q7 to do 3 miles a day and sit in Tescos or Slide and Seek's car park collecting parking scrapes means I do not love her any less.
Don't run p-worn tyres now but in the past used to use them regularly
Found a local place and built up a bit of a rapport with the guy. Used to pay £15 a corner (at a time when money was tight). I could ring him and tell him what I wanted and he would tell me what pairs he had in - and if not would tell me to give him a shout after his delivery was due
Always took me in to look at his stock and chose which pair I wanted - I always made a beeline for the named brands and had Dunlop, Michelins, vredesteins and continentals off him over the years. Also introduced him over the years to the ex-wife's dad and my current partner amongst others.
Only once had an issue - took it back and they swapped the pair over for me. Never had an accident or a blow out.
I wouldn't go just anywhere for part worns, but would suggest that not all "back street" garages are the shysters that people suggest
Found a local place and built up a bit of a rapport with the guy. Used to pay £15 a corner (at a time when money was tight). I could ring him and tell him what I wanted and he would tell me what pairs he had in - and if not would tell me to give him a shout after his delivery was due
Always took me in to look at his stock and chose which pair I wanted - I always made a beeline for the named brands and had Dunlop, Michelins, vredesteins and continentals off him over the years. Also introduced him over the years to the ex-wife's dad and my current partner amongst others.
Only once had an issue - took it back and they swapped the pair over for me. Never had an accident or a blow out.
I wouldn't go just anywhere for part worns, but would suggest that not all "back street" garages are the shysters that people suggest
Pieman68 said:
I wouldn't go just anywhere for part worns, but would suggest that not all "back street" garages are the shysters that people suggest
If you know somebody, you'd hope he'd not sell you a dud pair, but many people don't know their local garage so get sold whatever they have in. Would you buy a pair of tyres from me, would yer ? Last person I knew who used part worns bought them from her local garage who do her servicing, she had a service, MoT and four tyres. A month later one had gone pop and the other three were so dangerous she got the AA to recover her. They had previously been driven on whilst flat and this was clear from the damage to the sidewalls, rubber was deteriorated and cracked all the way round from the rims running on it and the carcass material was breaking up.
Doesn't compute to put people you love in a car with tyres, brakes or steering of unknown integrity. If you have to skimp then skimp on things which don't matter but not on tyres. All it takes is one accident but when you're dead you're dead for a long time. And it might be somebody you hit, not even you.
Emeye said:
Awesome and very funny. I was going to ignore this but I gave in and came to defend myself.
What major safety threat am I subjecting my family to with these used tyres? I have had new cars with new tyres and old cars with old tyres and still had flats or "blowouts" on the motorway and have never ended up with the car on its roof or in the barrier.
I could understand your concern if we were talking remoulds.
My wife's "tiny" Kia is a great big fk off family friendly 2003 Kia Sorento battle wagon - it has just been replaced by a 2003 Volvo XC90.
The Kia is old but very well maintained - my wife loved it and drove it by choice - I offered her my new Passat Alltrack when we got it but she prefered the Kia - I prefer the Kia day to day, We still have it and I honestly can't decide which car to get rid of.
My wife's car does about 3000 miles a year, mainly just running around locally.
The used tyres I put on were premium brand mud and snow tyres with plenty of tread and I checked the tyres myself before they fitted them. I check the pressure and condiction regularly.
We live on the side of a hill - if I had not changed the tyres, the existing ones would have been dangerous in the snow we had the other week.
Maybe we should not have driven in the snow, as that is "dangerous"?
Hopefully, if she ever reads this post she will have second thoughts about fooling around, as she will understand that me not buying her a brand new Audi Q7 to do 3 miles a day and sit in Tescos or Slide and Seek's car park collecting parking scrapes means I do not love her any less.
Sorry it just reminded me. Not a dig. He didn't like her driving his cars either. I was going to ignore this but I gave in and came to defend myself.What major safety threat am I subjecting my family to with these used tyres? I have had new cars with new tyres and old cars with old tyres and still had flats or "blowouts" on the motorway and have never ended up with the car on its roof or in the barrier.
I could understand your concern if we were talking remoulds.
My wife's "tiny" Kia is a great big f
k off family friendly 2003 Kia Sorento battle wagon - it has just been replaced by a 2003 Volvo XC90.The Kia is old but very well maintained - my wife loved it and drove it by choice - I offered her my new Passat Alltrack when we got it but she prefered the Kia - I prefer the Kia day to day, We still have it and I honestly can't decide which car to get rid of.
My wife's car does about 3000 miles a year, mainly just running around locally.
The used tyres I put on were premium brand mud and snow tyres with plenty of tread and I checked the tyres myself before they fitted them. I check the pressure and condiction regularly.
We live on the side of a hill - if I had not changed the tyres, the existing ones would have been dangerous in the snow we had the other week.
Maybe we should not have driven in the snow, as that is "dangerous"?
Hopefully, if she ever reads this post she will have second thoughts about fooling around, as she will understand that me not buying her a brand new Audi Q7 to do 3 miles a day and sit in Tescos or Slide and Seek's car park collecting parking scrapes means I do not love her any less.
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