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randlemarcus

13,524 posts

231 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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hora said:
14PPM?

That wouldn't even cover insurance, fuel, wear and tear or mileage. That taking advantage if any company had that.
Company car, daft lad, not car allowance biggrin

Effectively, it's a refund for the fuel you used when driving like Miss Daisy.

gazza285

9,816 posts

208 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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randlemarcus said:
hora said:
14PPM?

That wouldn't even cover insurance, fuel, wear and tear or mileage. That taking advantage if any company had that.
Company car, daft lad, not car allowance biggrin

Effectively, it's a refund for the fuel you used when driving like Miss Daisy.
Aye, don't get stuck behind me on a twisty country road while I maximise my mpg...

CYMR0

3,940 posts

200 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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hora said:
14PPM?

That wouldn't even cover insurance, fuel, wear and tear or mileage. That taking advantage if any company had that.
So with the Celerio, assuming a 40% taxpayer...

£44/month company car tax - £233 mileage claim
10ppm for fuel = £167
No other expenses = £211
So £22 net

With the Leon
£0 company car tax - £x car allowance - £541 mileage claim
16 ppm for fuel = £266
5 ppm for servicing and tyres
7 ppm for excess mileage
£40 per month for insurance

So £35 net even without a car allowance.

Given that the lease may be a fixed cost, I'm not so sure it makes sense to be driving the Celerio.

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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I very much doubt anyone commanding a salary in the 40% band will be getting a Suzuki Celery as a company car!

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Trabi601 said:
I very much doubt anyone commanding a salary in the 40% band will be getting a Suzuki Celery as a company car!
Strange, that was the first thing my mind jumped to!

"Hang on, if I was earning that much, why would that be my lot!?"

CYMR0

3,940 posts

200 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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Trabi601 said:
I very much doubt anyone commanding a salary in the 40% band will be getting a Suzuki Celery as a company car!
Probably not out of necessity, though there are plenty of 40% taxpayers who get nothing. OP may have chosen it on the basis that all the cars are appliances, so choose the cheapest.

In this case, the difference is only £22. That could easily be cancelled out by the availability of car allowance (although that might not allow the same amount of mileage to be claimed), or simply doing fewer business miles (at 16p for fuel + tyres, maintenance, and excess mileage, the OP is probably losing money after 10k miles p.a.).

Trabi601

4,865 posts

95 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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CYMR0 said:
Probably not out of necessity, though there are plenty of 40% taxpayers who get nothing. OP may have chosen it on the basis that all the cars are appliances, so choose the cheapest.

In this case, the difference is only £22. That could easily be cancelled out by the availability of car allowance (although that might not allow the same amount of mileage to be claimed), or simply doing fewer business miles (at 16p for fuel + tyres, maintenance, and excess mileage, the OP is probably losing money after 10k miles p.a.).
Don't forget applying for a tax rebate between the company mileage rate and the HMRC rate, too. Which is 5.8p up to 10k miles and 1.8p above 10k miles, assuming the company is paying 16p / mile.

That makes a very significant difference to the calculations.

Edit: Additionally, surely there won't be a large company mileage if the OP is only getting a Celery. Duty of care to your employee would say that this wasn't a suitable vehicle for significant business mileage.

Edited by Trabi601 on Wednesday 25th January 18:35

hora

37,148 posts

211 months

Wednesday 25th January 2017
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I had to Google the Celerio. Eeeeee it's ugly. Secondhand Aygo would be better!!