RE: Mercedes tyre 'skipping' - official statement

RE: Mercedes tyre 'skipping' - official statement

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LucyBChD

1 posts

88 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Eloquently put. You have lovely teeth BTW.

If the person above has driven the GLC, can they offer an educated insight as to the cause of the clunking?

Is this what you pay £49000 for?
https://youtu.be/69fr6--1ox0


Cyb3rDud3

198 posts

227 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Another little video - my tongue firmly in my cheek smile But the noises are real unfortunately.

https://www.mercedescrabbing.org/2017/02/13/gettin...

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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Cyb3rDud3 said:
Another little video - my tongue firmly in my cheek smile But the noises are real unfortunately.

https://www.mercedescrabbing.org/2017/02/13/gettin...
To be fair that is pretty awful.

Cyb3rDud3

198 posts

227 months

Monday 13th February 2017
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xjay1337 said:
To be fair that is pretty awful.
Thanks and unfortunately I'm not alone. I truly wish it was just me being sensitive to it, but this is a real issue.

mylesmcd

2,535 posts

220 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Does this affect LHD too, or just RHD?

Thanks,

eldar

21,809 posts

197 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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mylesmcd said:
Does this affect LHD too, or just RHD?

Thanks,
RHD only, it appears. LHD is OK.

mylesmcd

2,535 posts

220 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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thank you

havoc

30,112 posts

236 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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eldar said:
mylesmcd said:
Does this affect LHD too, or just RHD?

Thanks,
RHD only, it appears. LHD is OK.
Which strongly suggests it's an engineering compromise to do with the steering column vs the front driveshafts, as opposed to something inherent in the front geometry, as some commentators have guessed at.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Cyb3rDud3 said:
Post reported. Totally uncalled for to use such terms. Don't get why you have to be derogatorive towards another human being. Furthermore it also really shows your lack of experience with such matters as newspapers do their best to get you to pose in a certain way.
And then finally do you seriously belief that tyres shredding away is not a safety issue? Do you actually have one of these cars?

Yes I seriously believe it's not a safety issue, it's an annoyance. As for you getting offended on someone else's behalf, grow a pair please.

Cyb3rDud3

198 posts

227 months

Tuesday 14th February 2017
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Mr2Mike said:
Yes I seriously believe it's not a safety issue, it's an annoyance. As for you getting offended on someone else's behalf, grow a pair please.
Aha, so you are a believer to just turn your head when you see injustice. Interesting, sounds to me like you are the one who needs to grow a pair. I note you didn't answer the question. Are you just a keyboard warrior, or do you actually have this car, and some experience? I guess your Honda does the same so it should be ok and normal wink

AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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havoc said:
eldar said:
mylesmcd said:
Does this affect LHD too, or just RHD?

Thanks,
RHD only, it appears. LHD is OK.
Which strongly suggests it's an engineering compromise to do with the steering column vs the front driveshafts, as opposed to something inherent in the front geometry, as some commentators have guessed at.
So surely it would not be hard to get a RHD and LHD on the same wheels & tyres, and compare the geo.

havoc

30,112 posts

236 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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AW111 said:
So surely it would not be hard to get a RHD and LHD on the same wheels & tyres, and compare the geo.
Sounds like a good idea.
- If the geo is the same, then it's categorically not the geo;
- If the geo is different, set the RHD to the LHD geo and see how it drives:-
- If the geo CAN'T be set there, then it's definitely a driveshaft / steering col/rack issue affecting the range of suitable geo;
- If the geo can be set to LHD settings and the RHD car drives same/worse, then it's very likely a driveshaft/steering issue;
- If the geo can be set to LHD settings and the RHD car drives better than before, then this becomes a "WTF Mercedes?" moment...but I can't see that happening as it's far too bleedin' obvious...

herewego

8,814 posts

214 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Is this rattling only occurring at full lock? Could it be simply due to metal stops limiting the lock. It does seem to have a very large turning circle.

Sharted

2,652 posts

144 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Maybe something has been bent from offroad driving?

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Sharted said:
Maybe something has been bent from offroad driving?
Why would you take a small hatchback off road?

Dave Hedgehog

14,581 posts

205 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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xjay1337 said:
Cyb3rDud3 said:
Another little video - my tongue firmly in my cheek smile But the noises are real unfortunately.

https://www.mercedescrabbing.org/2017/02/13/gettin...
To be fair that is pretty awful.
agreed, something seriously amiss here, thats way beyond normal 'crabbing' from cold ultra low profile tyres

familyguy1

778 posts

133 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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that is truly shocking, only thing I would add is to get a technician in the car and demo the issue while recording it. But I'm sure that has already been suggested/done.

Sharted

2,652 posts

144 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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xjay1337 said:
Why would you take a small hatchback off road?
The one in the video is some kind of SUV.

thebraketester

14,257 posts

139 months

Wednesday 15th February 2017
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Sorry if this has already been covered/answered but what is the camber setup on the front of these cars? Whats the stock setting and is it adjustable?

Cyb3rDud3

198 posts

227 months

Thursday 16th February 2017
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thebraketester said:
Sorry if this has already been covered/answered but what is the camber setup on the front of these cars? Whats the stock setting and is it adjustable?
It is adjustable by changing the lower control arms and fitting correction bearings. It is not adjustable without ordering replacement parts from Mercedes.

And not the car has not been off-road, nor incurred any form of road trauma. This has been evidenced by the various geometry checks in addition to my word of honour smile

The engineers are shocked when they are in the car, they can't hide their facial expressions. However they stick to the same old story that it is a characteristic and not a fault therefore they cannot and will not fix.