Cars that make your average PH-er break out in cold sweats!
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Rat look......
The interior has no seat covers or cushions and the boot and rear is paper mâché with nuddy mags - awesome!!!
seriously though there are some people on this forum though who seem to have no idea about cars and the wider car scene.
do people even go to the Ace Cafe or car meets any more? or just sit in front of their laptops shouting at things they know nothing about?? haha
JJ
The interior has no seat covers or cushions and the boot and rear is paper mâché with nuddy mags - awesome!!!
seriously though there are some people on this forum though who seem to have no idea about cars and the wider car scene.
do people even go to the Ace Cafe or car meets any more? or just sit in front of their laptops shouting at things they know nothing about?? haha
JJ
problemchild1976 said:
seriously though there are some people on this forum though who seem to have no idea about cars and the wider car scene.
do people even go to the Ace Cafe or car meets any more? or just sit in front of their laptops shouting at things they know nothing about?? haha
JJ
Personally I don't see the point in making a car look crap or making it so impractical that is basically useless if there are no actual benefits. These 'scenes' tend to be dominated by a weird sheep like mentality as well, where everyone does the exact same things to their car because they want it to be different or stand out. Modifications to actually improve aspects of a car (performance, handling, brakes etc.) I totally understand.do people even go to the Ace Cafe or car meets any more? or just sit in front of their laptops shouting at things they know nothing about?? haha
JJ
problemchild1976 said:
Rat look......
The interior has no seat covers or cushions and the boot and rear is paper mâché with nuddy mags - awesome!!!
seriously though there are some people on this forum though who seem to have no idea about cars and the wider car scene.
do people even go to the Ace Cafe or car meets any more? or just sit in front of their laptops shouting at things they know nothing about?? haha
JJ
What has going to car shows and the ace cafe got to do with people building a piece of crap into an even more unbelievable The interior has no seat covers or cushions and the boot and rear is paper mâché with nuddy mags - awesome!!!
seriously though there are some people on this forum though who seem to have no idea about cars and the wider car scene.
do people even go to the Ace Cafe or car meets any more? or just sit in front of their laptops shouting at things they know nothing about?? haha
JJ
Piece of unroadworthy crap ?
Having been to many car shows, cruises, and also the ace cafe, at no point did I feel the need to make a car look like it's been festering in a ditch down a lane to a scrap yard still if that's your thing and sorry no the above is not awesome it's a piece of junk and a awful looking piece of junk it is to, only a 17 year old scene slag could love that heap
Any car - usually a VW actually - with tyres ridiculously stretched over the rim.
A la this muppet:
About two years ago i was a few cars behind a VW jetta on the M4 near Maidenhead where one of his rear tyres decided to explode into little chunks in the fast lane.
Retarded F*ckN*ggets that do this do my head in.
A la this muppet:
About two years ago i was a few cars behind a VW jetta on the M4 near Maidenhead where one of his rear tyres decided to explode into little chunks in the fast lane.
Retarded F*ckN*ggets that do this do my head in.
V88Dicky said:
When a battered and bruised one of these heaves into view....
I'm with Dicky on this... Proper cold sweat time when I see a battered Picasso, Micra, or older Hyundai.Drivers of such vehicles usually don't give a toss about the art of driving, and regard using their car as a faster version of walking.
Scary.
Mr2Mike said:
Personally I don't see the point in making a car look crap or making it so impractical that is basically useless if there are no actual benefits. These 'scenes' tend to be dominated by a weird sheep like mentality as well, where everyone does the exact same things to their car because they want it to be different or stand out. Modifications to actually improve aspects of a car (performance, handling, brakes etc.) I totally understand.
So like taking a 911 and turning it into a GT3RS?the whole thing about modding is totally anti-sheep no? its all about a reflection or personality is a car?
Sheep is...
haha!!
but i'm pretty sure the ACE Cafe history wasn't built on OEM bikes and cars
JJ
So you think the dub scene is about individualism lol they all look the same, bolt dash in from another dub put huge premium wheels from a vag family car or other prestige mark, usually nicked bits, drop it on the floor cut bits out of it to help it, stretch the tyres to bursting tolerances
Or go the other way make it look rusty with s
t stickers all over it and call it the rat look, I'd personally call it following the dub scene sheep, of course people are welcome to do what they like with there cars it's there choice
But calling it lack of understanding or individualism when they all look basically the same old st doesn't really tally for me
To be fair I am 41 now perhaps when I was 18 I might of appreciated it more but doughtful rust on cars has and always will look horrendous to me,
Or go the other way make it look rusty with s
t stickers all over it and call it the rat look, I'd personally call it following the dub scene sheep, of course people are welcome to do what they like with there cars it's there choice But calling it lack of understanding or individualism when they all look basically the same old s
t doesn't really tally for me To be fair I am 41 now perhaps when I was 18 I might of appreciated it more but doughtful rust on cars has and always will look horrendous to me,
why is it unroadworthy though??
many of these cars are immaculate underneath - and very well maintained.
enthusiasts know their cars inside out but your bog standard BMW diesel estate owner may know zero about whats going on and be totally unaware of their vehicles roadworthiness.
when my E60 dpf was playing up, most owners just said "gut and map" or "pay £1500" but i spent weeks looking into the issue, understanding all the parameters needed for regen, created some fixes and managed to force regens until the system was clear and now regens fine.
i'm sure the cafe racers of the 50s had their elders shouting at them for ruining perfectly good bikes but i honestly can't see an issue with working on cars and being "creative" in whatever "scene"
as you say, personal taste is exactly that but we can only criticise if we know all the details - hence this thread
not sure i get the picasso posts though!!
JJ
many of these cars are immaculate underneath - and very well maintained.
enthusiasts know their cars inside out but your bog standard BMW diesel estate owner may know zero about whats going on and be totally unaware of their vehicles roadworthiness.
when my E60 dpf was playing up, most owners just said "gut and map" or "pay £1500" but i spent weeks looking into the issue, understanding all the parameters needed for regen, created some fixes and managed to force regens until the system was clear and now regens fine.
i'm sure the cafe racers of the 50s had their elders shouting at them for ruining perfectly good bikes but i honestly can't see an issue with working on cars and being "creative" in whatever "scene"
as you say, personal taste is exactly that but we can only criticise if we know all the details - hence this thread
not sure i get the picasso posts though!!
JJ
problemchild1976 said:
So like taking a 911 and turning it into a GT3RS?
Not like that at all. The car still remains perfectly functional and looks great. It would be like taking a 911 and 'stancing' it (such a cretinous term) with stupid camber and a fag papers worth of ground clearance, making it undriveable on many roads.problemchild1976 said:
the whole thing about modding is totally anti-sheep no? its all about a reflection or personality is a car?
Rusty or black bonnets on VWsRusty old roofracks piled high with s
t (mostly seen on VWs)Stupidly stretched tyres (mostly seen on VWs..a theme developing)
Stupid amounts of lowering and negative camber (VW's again...)
All done to make their car stand out, even though it now looks exactly like all the other modified VWs. Sheep.
problemchild1976 said:
not sure i get the picasso posts though!!
Picture the scene. You're driving down the motorway, on the weekend, when a battered old Picasso with a harassed parent at the wheel wobbles up in the lane beside you. Oh, how it weaves! Marvel at the unnecessary panic braking! See how the parent keeps looking over their left shoulder to shout at the kids in the back! Observe the lack of indicating when switching lanes! See how the car hogs the middle lane at every opportunity!Certainly enough to have me break out in a cold sweat.
problemchild1976 said:
....i think there should be this thread that captures all varieties of modified cars from a "scene" perspective...
Pics and Vids welcome
Posters can try to identify styles of modification (i.e. VIP, Rat, drift, stance etc etc) where possible and it may raise awareness of the types of modifications around.
This may stop the "burning pitch fork" approach to anything other than OEM.
yeah but the picasso isn't modified...... is it?Pics and Vids welcome
Posters can try to identify styles of modification (i.e. VIP, Rat, drift, stance etc etc) where possible and it may raise awareness of the types of modifications around.
This may stop the "burning pitch fork" approach to anything other than OEM.
no I don't know who ronnie pickering is (thats a joke obvs)
JJ
MorganP104 said:
V88Dicky said:
When a battered and bruised one of these heaves into view....
I'm with Dicky on this... Proper cold sweat time when I see a battered Picasso, Micra, or older Hyundai.Drivers of such vehicles usually don't give a toss about the art of driving, and regard using their car as a faster version of walking.
Scary.
Mr2Mike said:
problemchild1976 said:
So like taking a 911 and turning it into a GT3RS?
Not like that at all. The car still remains perfectly functional and looks great. It would be like taking a 911 and 'stancing' it (such a cretinous term) with stupid camber and a fag papers worth of ground clearance, making it undriveable on many roads.problemchild1976 said:
the whole thing about modding is totally anti-sheep no? its all about a reflection or personality is a car?
Rusty or black bonnets on VWsRusty old roofracks piled high with s
t (mostly seen on VWs)Stupidly stretched tyres (mostly seen on VWs..a theme developing)
Stupid amounts of lowering and negative camber (VW's again...)
All done to make their car stand out, even though it now looks exactly like all the other modified VWs. Sheep.
the polo posted is more functional than a GT3RS
so i'm sensing as long as its been modified by a factory its ok? no matter how impractical?
where does BRABUS or Alpina fit in?? or any supercar that is a nats whisker off the ground?
people's opinions are all v confusing
hating a look is ok - we aren't all the same
but stating those things isn't sheep-like.... every roof rack has the owners personality in there. Adding ceramic brake options from the factory is ok?
the VW scene is identified by these things but isn't limited to them (like the garlands on the RVM)
i don't and wont own VW or a 911 as i prefer something a bit rarer but i can appreciate scenes (no matter how crap) and the effort people put in and understanding where it came from - i find it all v interesting.
(like the VIP look coming from the undergroud gansters of Japan)
JJ
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