The Greateast Mass Production Engines Ever Made?

[catman]

Out of interest, how would a small-block Ford (Windsor/Cleveland) compare to a Chevy? A friend had a Windsor in a Cobra replica and it seemed like a great engine.

Character, performance and noise all seemed great to me.

Tim

Edited by catman on Sunday 19th February 11:28

[cerb4.5lee]

MorganP104 said:

My vote goes to the BMW M62 (4.4 V8).

I've owned two cars fitted with this engine (E38 BMW 740i and L322 Range Rover). Whilst they are very different cars, the engine suited them both down to the ground. Powerful, flexible, smooth, and half-decent fuel economy (for a V8!)

It's not a bad looking lump, either. I especially like the way it really "fills" the engine bay of whatever car it's installed in.

I loved the 4.8 version I had in my X5 4.8is, and I would stick my neck out and say it's been the favourite engine I've had.

[cerb4.5lee]

GroundEffect said:

BMW S65 4.0 V8.

Sounds amazing in my car with its new exhaust.

And in GT3...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoINTS7p7_8

I would've loved to have experienced that engine in a lighter car than the M3, and much like the S54 in my Z4M I'm just not much of a fan of the high rev/low torque engines.

Both rightly highly regarded though.

[cerb4.5lee]

nickfrog said:

inabox said:

BMW n52, last of it's kind.

I was going to say this even before opening the topic. A truly brilliant engine. HVA issues are of little concern too.

Agree and it's a lovely smooth engine, although it's a little uninspiring on the sound front for me, and I personally prefer a V6 for noise.

[ferrisbueller]

I'm assuming someone has mentioned the Merlin.

[Jimmy Recard]

catman said:

Out of interest, how would a small-block Ford (Windsor/Cleveland) compare? A friend had a Windsor in a Cobra replica and it seemed like a great engine.

Character, performance and noise all seemed great to me.

Tim

The GM/Chevrolet small block engine family, you mean?

[catman]

Jimmy Recard said:

catman said:

Out of interest, how would a small-block Ford (Windsor/Cleveland) compare? A friend had a Windsor in a Cobra replica and it seemed like a great engine.

Character, performance and noise all seemed great to me.

Tim

The GM/Chevrolet small block engine family, you mean?

Yes!

[njw1]

cerb4.5lee said:

MorganP104 said:

My vote goes to the BMW M62 (4.4 V8).

I've owned two cars fitted with this engine (E38 BMW 740i and L322 Range Rover). Whilst they are very different cars, the engine suited them both down to the ground. Powerful, flexible, smooth, and half-decent fuel economy (for a V8!)

It's not a bad looking lump, either. I especially like the way it really "fills" the engine bay of whatever car it's installed in.

I loved the 4.8 version I had in my X5 4.8is, and I would stick my neck out and say it's been the favourite engine I've had.

I've had a 3.5 with vanos, a 4.4 non vanos and the mighty 4.9 S62, they are awesome engines, very refined and quiet at low revs and then you prod it a bit and the engine lets out this huge V8 bark and you're suddenly a lot closer to whatever was in front of you. They are quite lazy engines at low revs (even the S62) but once you get rolling and up to about 2.5 to 3k the mid range punch is something else and for a big engine they will rev and rev.

[njw1]

Seven pages and no-ones mentioned the Transit 2.5 DI 'banana' engine?!

[brickwall]

Surely the Honda F20C 2.0 litre in the S2000.

Screaming 8,500rpm red line, 120bhp/litre, in a mass-produced sports car. Even the latest V10 R8 Plus has a lower specific output.

All in 1999.

[gazza285]

njw1 said:

Seven pages and no-ones mentioned the Transit 2.5 DI 'banana' engine?!

Same as a York Series, but with a fancy inlet manifold. Definitely hardy, but crikey Moses, they were noisy...

[J4CKO]

Pereldh said:

The Fiat 2-litre 5-cyl turbo in Coupe, Kappa.

Indestructable, powerful, tunable, efficient, wonderful noise!

Indestructible, er, not really, guess how I know ?

[njw1]

gazza285 said:

njw1 said:

Seven pages and no-ones mentioned the Transit 2.5 DI 'banana' engine?!

Same as a York Series, but with a fancy inlet manifold. Definitely hardy, but crikey Moses, they were noisy...

WHAT??


Did I mention I've had three mk5 Transits?

[Drive Blind]

GreatGranny said:

VW 1.9 TDi PD engine

The Ford CVH


well he started it..

[njw1]

Drive Blind said:

The Ford CVH

Oh God no! Harsh, noisy, coarse, camshaft wearing thing. And I like Fords!

[jakesmith]

I've heard good things about the Jaguar 5.0 V8 Supercharged as per XKR & RangeRover Supercharged. Reliable, powerful, tunable & sound great
Old fave has to be the VAG 1.8T 20V Turbo - so tunable

[BricktopST205]

People distain the VAG 1.9 PD but it was the first decent mass produced diesel engine that wasn't complete horrid to drive. I still remember going from a 1.8 Mk5 escort van to a VW Caddy and the difference was night and day.

Toyota 4AGE
Toyota 3S Series.
Saab B Series.
Toyota 2JZ
Honda K Series.
Nissan SR Series.
Nissan RB Series.

The Japs really know how to make a kick ass engine when they put their minds to it. Shame that they have basically given up now though!

[lee_erm]

BricktopST205 said:

People distain the VAG 1.9 PD but it was the first decent mass produced diesel engine that wasn't complete horrid to drive.

PSA beat them to it.

[AAGR]

Will everyone who thinks there was any connection between the Ford 'Kent' engine and the Cosworth DFV F1 engine go back to school to learn something, or to reliable book and internet sources.

[bearman68]

lee_erm said:

PSA beat them to it.

And Fiat beat PSA - IIRC the first common rail engine was the 2.4 5 cylinder. (Another very good engine)