The Greateast Mass Production Engines Ever Made?

[aeropilot]

Total loss said:

AAGR said:

Will everyone who thinks there was any connection between the Ford 'Kent' engine and the Cosworth DFV F1 engine go back to school to learn something, or to reliable book and internet sources.

So what was the FVA which used a Kent block ? It was the proof of concept Ford asked Cosworth to build when Cosworth went to Ford with the DFV plan. Satisfied with the FVA, Ford gave the go ahead for the DFV and Cosworth developed/improved the FVA head into the DFV head.
Is none of that true ?

Yes, that's pretty much it, with effectively the finalised DFV head then being able to be used on top of the Kent block to create the BDA.

[Welshbeef]

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[cerb4.5lee]

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[InductionRoar]

Welshbeef said:

So not that much quicker really - but the M4 which came next is a 8.5ish second car so much faster (yet it's not liked that much being forced induction)

I think from an technical point of view though the V8 is a better engine than the I6 in just about every way. Lighter, more power, better sound, revs higher, more reliable (?) but from what I understand the E46 is a better platform so flatters the engine more than the barge-like E92.

[cerb4.5lee]

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[Welshbeef]

cerb4.5lee said:

It is by me though, it's usable shove and it's now genuinely a quick car so that will do for me, N/A engines are for a good reason a thing of the past.

I enjoyed thrashing the M4 at Palmer Bedford autodrome - pulled very hard out of the corners and a great turn in. Cannot compare to the V8

[cerb4.5lee]

Welshbeef said:

I enjoyed thrashing the M4 at Palmer Bedford autodrome - pulled very hard out of the corners and a great turn in. Cannot compare to the V8

I think it's just personal preference, and the V8 in the M3 almost put me off V8's and I love V8's big time.

[aspirated]

Mercedes M156 V8? Modern day muscle-car engine

[gazza285]

aeropilot said:

Total loss said:

AAGR said:

Will everyone who thinks there was any connection between the Ford 'Kent' engine and the Cosworth DFV F1 engine go back to school to learn something, or to reliable book and internet sources.

So what was the FVA which used a Kent block ? It was the proof of concept Ford asked Cosworth to build when Cosworth went to Ford with the DFV plan. Satisfied with the FVA, Ford gave the go ahead for the DFV and Cosworth developed/improved the FVA head into the DFV head.
Is none of that true ?

Yes, that's pretty much it, with effectively the finalised DFV head then being able to be used on top of the Kent block to create the BDA.

Perhaps it's just coincidence that the DFV bore size is the same as the Kent based FVA, and the DFV shares the same big and little end diameters as a Ford Anglia...

[Some Gump]

Rover V8. Slightly naff but awesome at the same time. The stalwart of British fun motoring.

LSx (I'm not an expert here) - The yank version of the Rover V8. Better in every measurable way than our one: sound.

The BMW 320d engine. Miles better than all the other 2L repomobile engines out there.

Rover K Series (yes, seriously). A flawed diamond: It may have a list of faults longer than mandingo, but in a Caterham there's just nothing else that can rival it.

[dobly]

Honda C30A & C32B. The C32B was not made in enormous numbers but in excess of 2000 units.

[Welshbeef]

Shouldn't we have nominations and winners for each engine configuration then an overall PH winner?

[RBH58]

Welshbeef said:

Shouldn't we have nominations and winners for each engine configuration then an overall PH winner?

Possibly

Best <4, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 >12 cyls?

6 cyl is easy for me. BMW N/A M-Power, Alfa Romeo Busso V6, Jaguar XK6
8 cyl. Chev Small Block. Rover V8.

The rest. Mmmmm....

[Welshbeef]

RBH58 said:

Welshbeef said:

Shouldn't we have nominations and winners for each engine configuration then an overall PH winner?

Possibly

Best <4, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 >12 cyls?

6 cyl is easy for me. BMW N/A M-Power, Alfa Romeo Busso V6, Jaguar XK6
8 cyl. Chev Small Block. Rover V8.

The rest. Mmmmm....

Diahatsu Charade TTID Turbo I3
Lotus Twin cam Ford Pinto S2000 for the I4
Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo I5
E28 M5 I6
S211 E55 K V8
Gallardo LP650
Zonda R V12 AMG Merc
Over 12 cylinders I'm thinking Bugatti Chiron

[Bunfighter]

Did we say mass produced?

The figures need to be defined but for example even the M5 won't be in huge numbers.

[Alex_225]

Not sure how mass produced it is but I'm rather partial to the M156 6.2 V8 that AMG put in a variety of cars.

[aeropilot]

Fords 'Kent' engine has to have a claim on one of the greatest 4 cyl production engines, from use in mundane versions of the Anglia, Escort, Cortina, Capri, Fiesta, as well as Lotus/Caterham 7's, it also provided the power plant for what is probably the most successful 'feeder' single-seat racing series ever - Formula Ford. It also provided the basis of the Lotus-Ford Twin Cam used in the Cortina & Escort and Lotus 7, Elan & Europa, as well as the Cosworth FVA and BDA engines...right up to the fearsome 600hp Evolution version of the BDT used in the RS200 Group B rallycar, and it can even be linked to the Hart 420 F1 engines.

[Flying Phil]

Another vote for the Alfa "Busso" V6 - especially with those glorious 6 chromed inlet pipes!
The earlier straight six 2600 engine was a great sounding engine as well....7000 rpm on open headers, triple 40DCOE carbs in drag racing trim.

[neil1jnr]

Chevy small block V8

From what I've read it's simplistic, compact, powerful, torquey, great sound, relatively cheap, more reliable than other similar capacity V8's?