The Greateast Mass Production Engines Ever Made?
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lee_erm said:
It boggles my mind that people are genuinely suggesting the VAG 1.9 TDI.
Boggles my mind too! I can't think of a "great" Diesel engine....and that wasn't a challenge to anyone! The only one I can think of that was remotely interesting was VAG's V10.I think people are listing a lot of "good" but not "great" engines generally.
JeffreyB said:
There's only one winner - the small block Chevrolet engine. Over 100 million manufactured,
Selling lots of something doesn't mean it's the greatest. It just means that it was popular at that particular time in history.Steps have sold over 20 million records, doesn't mean they're the greatest group in the world does it?
S0 What said:
Ford kent engine, in production from 1959 till 2002 in one guise or another.
And spawned some of the greatest motorsport engines ever, from the Lotus Twincam, through the Cosworth FVA and BD series, the direct predecessors of the Cosworth DFV, which was the engine to have if you wanted to win a GP through most of the Seventies, alongside the Zakspeed Capri, the RS1800 and the RS200...Lots of good suggestions on here, of which the Chevy Small Block is the obvious one.
I think the Mazda SkyActiv-G 1.5 is worth a mention - N/A, 7500rpm, 130bhp, relatively simple and very frugal.
N/A engines over 100bhp are getting very thin on the ground, and the Chevy V8 and SkyActive-G 1.5 might be the last hurrah of the breed. Toyota seem to be the only other company innovating with N/A engines now.
I think the Mazda SkyActiv-G 1.5 is worth a mention - N/A, 7500rpm, 130bhp, relatively simple and very frugal.
N/A engines over 100bhp are getting very thin on the ground, and the Chevy V8 and SkyActive-G 1.5 might be the last hurrah of the breed. Toyota seem to be the only other company innovating with N/A engines now.
oceanview said:
The 5 litre V8 Mercedes engine (M119, I think) from the early-mid 1990s.
A strong,very refined, powerful engine
Yep, made when Mercedes still = quality above all else but built in the modern era where machining precision improved dramatically. Found in the Sauber Mercedes Le Mans cars (of Mark Webber going airborne fame) to S-Class limousines. There is a great post on one of the Merc forums comparing it to its still excellent but much cost reduced successor the M113 (which in supercharged form is also undeniably a classic)A strong,very refined, powerful engine
As I said, lots of "good", not so many "great"
For an engine to be "great", I think it has to have had a reasonable model run. It has to be a charismatic engine with great drive ability. It has to have a reputation for being robust and reliable. It probably has to be an engine that's gained a reputation with tuners. Engines introduced last year probably haven't had a chance to become "great" yet.
For an engine to be "great", I think it has to have had a reasonable model run. It has to be a charismatic engine with great drive ability. It has to have a reputation for being robust and reliable. It probably has to be an engine that's gained a reputation with tuners. Engines introduced last year probably haven't had a chance to become "great" yet.
gazza285 said:
And spawned some of the greatest motorsport engines ever, from the Lotus Twincam, through the Cosworth FVA and BD series, the direct predecessors of the Cosworth DFV, which was the engine to have if you wanted to win a GP through most of the Seventies, alongside the Zakspeed Capri, the RS1800 and the RS200...
Agree. You are "getting it" 
Escapegoat said:
1UZ-FE: effortless, dependable, great balance between power and economy, auto/marine/aero versions.
Flies under the radar of many car fanatics because in its main role, it's totally anonymous. If it always sounded like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuTuQ5N6gLE - everybody'd know it.
(Plea: if you know any mechanic skilled enough to bolt one of those into a W201, let me know.)
This. I'm on my second Cobra/ Lexus combination ( out of three Cobras in total) and have a spare engine and two suitable turbo's for it in my shed. Flies under the radar of many car fanatics because in its main role, it's totally anonymous. If it always sounded like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuTuQ5N6gLE - everybody'd know it.
(Plea: if you know any mechanic skilled enough to bolt one of those into a W201, let me know.)
Re the W201 if you have a 700mm x700mm x700mm space in the engine bay you can fit a 1UZFE. Keep the Lexus auto box and its easy to fit using the standard Lexus / Toyota ECU. You just need to fashion engine and gearbox mountings and away you go. Wiring up should be a weekends waork only requiring 3 relays and 6 to 8 wires to spark the buggar up.
In contrast the BMW 4.4 I used in the first Cobra was a pain in the harris. It's also not as well built, robust, as well designed or as rev happy as the Toyota V8.
Cheers,
Tony
Edited by Tony427 on Friday 17th February 23:05
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