I don't want a new bloody car. I want my old one back....
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I agree with you, OP. My wife drives a 2015 Jaguar XE, whereas I drive a 2007 BMW 630i with 130,000 miles on the clock.
In the 18 months she's owned her XE, it's been back to Jaguar over a dozen times for various bits to be fixed / stuck back on / screwed back together or updated. The second to last time it went in during late January for the umpteenth repair of the rattling ad blue bottle, there were 3 pages of other updates and recalls on the job card.
The BMW, on the other hand, keeps going strong despite being ploughed up and down the M4 on my 180 mile round trip commute. It still does over 30mpg at 80mph and could sit at 120 all day if I wanted.
The only thing the Jag has that the BMW doesn't is Bluetooth music streaming from the iPhone.
I keep wanting to replace the 6er but I just can't bring myself to do it. It's worth nothing but owes me nothing, yet is a lovely place to be for a long journey and still turns heads due to its relative rarity
In the 18 months she's owned her XE, it's been back to Jaguar over a dozen times for various bits to be fixed / stuck back on / screwed back together or updated. The second to last time it went in during late January for the umpteenth repair of the rattling ad blue bottle, there were 3 pages of other updates and recalls on the job card.
The BMW, on the other hand, keeps going strong despite being ploughed up and down the M4 on my 180 mile round trip commute. It still does over 30mpg at 80mph and could sit at 120 all day if I wanted.
The only thing the Jag has that the BMW doesn't is Bluetooth music streaming from the iPhone.
I keep wanting to replace the 6er but I just can't bring myself to do it. It's worth nothing but owes me nothing, yet is a lovely place to be for a long journey and still turns heads due to its relative rarity
Totally agree. F10 would be a great next car for us but then you have to live with it- bongs, reverse locked out with door open etc. Presumably someone clever could change all of the bulls
t with INPA or whatever the BMW software is called. Surely there's a market for this. Doesn't solve the steering or hand brakes but it's progress.
t with INPA or whatever the BMW software is called. Surely there's a market for this. Doesn't solve the steering or hand brakes but it's progress.Edited by Polynesian on Saturday 18th February 12:15
schmalex said:
I agree with you, OP. My wife drives a 2015 Jaguar XE, whereas I drive a 2007 BMW 630i with 130,000 miles on the clock.
The only thing the Jag has that the BMW doesn't is Bluetooth music streaming from the iPhone.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/sony-rm-x7bt-in-car-bluetooth-hands-free-smartphone-remote-p62610.htmThe only thing the Jag has that the BMW doesn't is Bluetooth music streaming from the iPhone.
Sorted
I think the BM is still worth several thousand, whereas the XE is only going to be worth about £20K or less so it's probably not that big a difference really ...
OP, the suggest about another E39 is a good one.
I went from a 64plate Megane RS, to a Fiesta ST (don't ask) and back to an earlier, 61 plate, Megane RS. So glad I did, even an earlier version of the same car has the same feel about it, and although missing some things, it has more equipment in other ways.
I went from a 64plate Megane RS, to a Fiesta ST (don't ask) and back to an earlier, 61 plate, Megane RS. So glad I did, even an earlier version of the same car has the same feel about it, and although missing some things, it has more equipment in other ways.
Our A3 drives me mental. Check tyre pressures, adjust as necessary. Open door to access menu to reset tyre pressure warning. Insert key, BEEEEEPPPPP, key inserted with door open. I KNOW THAT I JUST INSERTED IT!! Doesn't stop until you close the door, which seeing as I only wanted to reset the TPM drives me mad.
I was reading about Euro NCAP this morning. They want mandatory collision avoidance systems which can 'declutch' the steering wheel to prevent driver intervention.
I'm a software engineer and that concept fills me with dread.
I also don't need a car which tells me when I veer out of a lane, or am about to hit the car in front. Or does an emergency stop for an errant crisp packet.
It's called DRIVING!
I was reading about Euro NCAP this morning. They want mandatory collision avoidance systems which can 'declutch' the steering wheel to prevent driver intervention.
I'm a software engineer and that concept fills me with dread.
I also don't need a car which tells me when I veer out of a lane, or am about to hit the car in front. Or does an emergency stop for an errant crisp packet.
It's called DRIVING!
crofty1984 said:
PowerslideSWE said:
Top rant.
I have an e39 530i and honestly the only thing I miss is bluetooth connectivity to the stereo and a 6th gear...And better rust protection if I'm honest, but the car is 16 years old and has 130.000 miles on it..
The car is very quiet inside, you can not feel, and hardly hear that the engine is running when idling, it's not too large, will cruise at 120 mph all day if required and is great on fuel aswell. Good looking thing too I reckon.
I had one too. Wish I hadn't sold it to get an MX5I have an e39 530i and honestly the only thing I miss is bluetooth connectivity to the stereo and a 6th gear...And better rust protection if I'm honest, but the car is 16 years old and has 130.000 miles on it..
The car is very quiet inside, you can not feel, and hardly hear that the engine is running when idling, it's not too large, will cruise at 120 mph all day if required and is great on fuel aswell. Good looking thing too I reckon.
TooMany2cvs said:
cay said:
I was reading about Euro NCAP this morning. They want mandatory collision avoidance systems which can 'declutch' the steering wheel to prevent driver intervention.
Sounds like bull to me. Where did you read it?cay said:
Right.That's not quite what that article says, y'know.
Welshbeef said:
I assume the wonderful E39 M5 is in budget why not go for one of he best M cars ever made?
^^^This! And as a fellow e39 owner I would also say if you like your e39 then get another, I think that BMW got things absolutely spot on with the e39 and there are few cars that can match it.
Regarding electric handbrakes, my missus father has a Laguna with one and he got so fed up of the cables ceasing and the handbrake sticking on he took a side cutters to the cables, it now has no handbrake!
Edited by njw1 on Monday 20th February 18:50
The silly thing is that the technology should make the whole thing configurable - it's just a bunch of switches.
If you wanted the heater fan to be controlled by the wiper stalk, that should be fine. OLED indicators in the switchgear could reconfigure the labels.
Ditto with the bongs and interlocks - default would be to have them on, but it should be possible to turn them off. Even my Alfa 159 is a pain - sometimes want to be able to start it by leaning in and pressing the button, but no, I have to press the sodding clutch or brake....
If you wanted the heater fan to be controlled by the wiper stalk, that should be fine. OLED indicators in the switchgear could reconfigure the labels.
Ditto with the bongs and interlocks - default would be to have them on, but it should be possible to turn them off. Even my Alfa 159 is a pain - sometimes want to be able to start it by leaning in and pressing the button, but no, I have to press the sodding clutch or brake....
You should try things from a mechanics point of view! What's wrong with a dipstick on an engine why oh why make an engine without one, and an electronic handbrake that decides to seize on outside the workshop door (thanks volkswagen) bulbs you can't change without taking the headlight out or removing the bumper first, indicators controlled by a two hundred pound module that needs to go to BMW to be coded to the Car! Deep breath remember I had a hart attack last year the list is endless. Oh well roll on retirement!
TooMany2cvs said:
Right.
That's not quite what that article says, y'know.
OK, except it does! It says if the system is trying to avoid a collision the steering wheel can 'declutch' so the driver cannot override it.That's not quite what that article says, y'know.
So, erroneous sensor reading sends you flying into a ditch to avoid an invisible lorry whilst the steering wheel is no longer connected.
louiechevy said:
You should try things from a mechanics point of view! What's wrong with a dipstick on an engine why oh why make an engine without one, and an electronic handbrake that decides to seize on outside the workshop door (thanks volkswagen) bulbs you can't change without taking the headlight out or removing the bumper first, indicators controlled by a two hundred pound module that needs to go to BMW to be coded to the Car! Deep breath remember I had a hart attack last year the list is endless. Oh well roll on retirement!
LOL, in fact,I'm an auto electrician. You mechanics have it easy.To be fair, I have been considering a smaller car for a while. But everything I consider I reject for 1 reason or another.
Focus - Not with the 1.6 HDI engine
Peugeot / Citroen - see above.
Alfa - possible.
Saab - have one,
Astra - possible,
Civic 2.2 cdti - possible.
120d - Maybe -don't like keyless stuff, but just maybe I could just live with it.
Megane - have one in the business, fine for a £200 runabout (quite good in fact,but not for me).
New Clio - maybe, but that's only because I'm building one at the mo.
E39 Estate in leather, manual, with the 3.0 td engine, on an 02 plate or later, not in a dark colour. Now we're talking, but hens teeth.
Very old A4 - had one, and liked it,but not as good as the E39.
Very tricky.
Just thought actually, maybe an E46 estate might be an answer......
An auto electrician on modern cars I would probably have another hart attack! It would probably be less painful! All joking aside I would struggle to think of a newish car I would want I would rather have my first car a Renault 5 back and that was awful especially when the bolt holding the dashboard mounted gear stick sheared and I ended up with it in my hand stuck in Third!
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