Is this a case of road trolling?
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slightly similar I guess but as someone who does a lot of motorway miles with cruise control on I find so often you go to overtake someone only to find they then immediately match your speed as soon as you drop back in behind them they slow back down its really irritating and thats in a car I can only imagine the frustration it is in a truck.
anth7714 said:
slightly similar I guess but as someone who does a lot of motorway miles with cruise control on I find so often you go to overtake someone only to find they then immediately match your speed as soon as you drop back in behind them they slow back down its really irritating and thats in a car I can only imagine the frustration it is in a truck.
This.I often go to overtake sometime in L3 and the bloke in L2 will speed up. At this point with the Cruise Control (CC) on I will carry on, but of course I will end up going into L2 where the same bloke will slow down again!
It does seem to be that people don't like being passed.
These days I reckon my patience has got shorter. If they do that I will generally put my foot down and get a bit of a gap between them and let the CC pick up where I was before
. It's not a wise thing to do but I have got tired of people dicking about on the motorway.captainaverage said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Will it? Unlikely. The Pug driver's just woken up and realised there's a wagon passing them.
B'sides, the wagon doesn't need to drop that far back to pull in.
~16 m of articulated lorry, pug speeds up but maintains position near the rear wheels of the lorry. Yes maybe it does need to drop a fair bit back.B'sides, the wagon doesn't need to drop that far back to pull in.
Flicking on the left indicator and obliging the Peugeot driver to drop back and let him move in proved to be the most sensible solution, whether the Peugeot driver was deliberately playing games and felt intimidated or was just woken up from his slumber.
I think for some people it's just a sense of perception. They aren't paying attention to their driving and something overtaking suddenly penetrates their consciousness enough for them to speed match it so they think they're going with the flow of traffic and being the same as everyone else. With nothing else around they daydream and the speed drops off. Someone blasting past is dismissed as a speeding maniac and forgotten about. It's those going just a bit faster who make them accelerate without really thinking about doing it.
It's giving them too much credit to think there's any great thought process going on, even if it's a mischievous one like wanting to deliberately hang people out to dry. We take pride in our driving so it's hard to understand the mindset of someone who gets behind the wheel of a car and moves it down the road with a load of other people doing the same thing in close proximity but never really puts any great mental capacity into the process, despite how badly wrong it could go. That's how a lot of people we share the roads with are and that's why road safety messages have to be so basic. People can't be persuaded to really think deeply about good driving so they have to be physically forced to minimise how much damage they do by being made to slow down and stop a lot.
I think some people are just motoring on Autopilot and when something like a HGV starts to overtake it kind of wakes them out of their stupor and they suddenly realise how slow they were going.
It's the total twonks who then speed up to cause an issue and when I'm king of the world they'll be the first I'll order shot at the roadside, along with Middle Lane Morons and the "40mph Everywhere" idiots!
It's the total twonks who then speed up to cause an issue and when I'm king of the world they'll be the first I'll order shot at the roadside, along with Middle Lane Morons and the "40mph Everywhere" idiots!
talksthetorque said:
I was pointing out that all this inconvenience of another driver has probably added 0.7 seconds to the journey.
Is it worth bothering about?
If he ends up following the Peugeot for another 50 miles then it's going to be a bit more than 0.7 seconds.Is it worth bothering about?
I get this a lot in the Skoda, on a motorway, cruise control at 70ish, slowly catch someone up, pull-out to overtake, they speed up and you end up doing 80-odd to overtake, then pull back in, lift off the gas and slow back down to the cruise setting, the ovetakee disappears slowly behind you as they've slowed down to their previous speed now they've been passed. Or alternatively, I slow down and pull back in, they promptly slow back down to their original speed leaving me the choice of going slower than I would like or repeating the overtake. Lets face it, some people are tw*ts and don't like to be passed, I can only imagine how infuriating it must be in a speed limited lorry.
captainaverage said:
NSL dual carriageway, lorry moves to lane 2 and overtakes a slow Peugeot going no more than 50mph, Peugeot speeds up where now the lorry doesn't have enough oomph to go any faster and can't move back into lane 1 because they're both side by side. This carries on for a few minutes until lorry finally signals and kind of forcefully moves left a bit. At this point slow red Peugeot slows down to let the lorry in.
Not the first time I have seen this happen and it's happened to me to where I have come across a driver going 60 mph, I move out to over take at 70 mph, the other driver goes from 60 to 70 mph too.
Are these road trolls? Or do these people really not realise what they're doing and how it's affecting the road users around them?
Some people can't take it or imagine a race in their head. For heaven sake there is no need to be so competitive and discourteous. Unfortunately this is the day and age we live in with uninsured drivers, foreign drivers, drivers who have not passed and some who take things too personally. We know road trolling is rife and continues to increase. Not the first time I have seen this happen and it's happened to me to where I have come across a driver going 60 mph, I move out to over take at 70 mph, the other driver goes from 60 to 70 mph too.
Are these road trolls? Or do these people really not realise what they're doing and how it's affecting the road users around them?
MKnight702 said:
Could the Peugeot have been giving the lorry payback for spending the last 5 miles "overtaking" and holding everyone up? And no, before anyone asks, I do not drive a Peugeot.
Payback would have been holding the lorry up - not causing the lorry to hold everyone else up 
Blakewater said:
We take pride in our driving so it's hard to understand the mindset of someone who gets behind the wheel of a car and moves it down the road with a load of other people doing the same thing in close proximity but never really puts any great mental capacity into the process, despite how badly wrong it could go. That's how a lot of people we share the roads with are and that's why road safety messages have to be so basic. People can't be persuaded to really think deeply about good driving so they have to be physically forced to minimise how much damage they do by being made to slow down and stop a lot.
I get not everyone is a car enthusiast and most use their car to go from A to B but I just don't understand that mindset of not even caring how you get from A to B. Mindless drivers are annoying. anth7714 said:
slightly similar I guess but as someone who does a lot of motorway miles with cruise control on I find so often you go to overtake someone only to find they then immediately match your speed as soon as you drop back in behind them they slow back down its really irritating and thats in a car I can only imagine the frustration it is in a truck.
I don't do mega miles but the 600-800 miles I do monthly is mostly M25/M4 so I do see a lot of motorway oddness. I totally agree with this point! You set your cruise control to 70mph and you'll be approaching a car so indicate and move out for an overtake. As you get nearby they decide they're going to up their speed from the original 60-65mph to either match or start passing you on the left!
I don't know if sometimes it's a bit of a case of trolling as referenced in the first post or a case of suddenly realising they've dropped their speed and feel the need to speed up.
chrispj said:
I get this a lot in the Skoda, on a motorway, cruise control at 70ish, slowly catch someone up, pull-out to overtake, they speed up and you end up doing 80-odd to overtake, then pull back in, lift off the gas and slow back down to the cruise setting, the ovetakee disappears slowly behind you as they've slowed down to their previous speed now they've been passed.
Same thing happens on the more open motorways if you're not hanging around and happen to catch up with someone in the outside lane. About half the time now I find they'll accelerate a bit first, and when they find I'm keeping station behind them they'll move across to the middle lane and continue at the faster pace. Once I'm past they drop back to their old pace - why they don't just move left to start with, I have no idea!
Happens all the time on cruise control, you'll start going past someone, only for them to speed up. You then pull back into L1 or L2, only for them to slow again so you have to pull back out. Also happens where people will want to overtake as soon as you pull back in front of them, only for them to slow down so you have to overtake again. It's always people on cars without cruise, who will drive somewhere between 55mph to 75mh, often varying due to the graident of road they're driving on. It's like their foot can only press the accelrator at a specific angle, thus the cars speed varies all the time.
It's not trolling, it's just people in their own little bubble, completely obliviously to any other road user. No doubt when they find a lorry matching their speed trying to overtake, they're tutting and moaning about why this lorry doesn't just get on with it's overtake, complaining about it holding up all that traffic behind it.
It's not trolling, it's just people in their own little bubble, completely obliviously to any other road user. No doubt when they find a lorry matching their speed trying to overtake, they're tutting and moaning about why this lorry doesn't just get on with it's overtake, complaining about it holding up all that traffic behind it.
jatinder said:
Regiment said:
They're as bad as the people that overtake on a motorway, pull back into lane 1 and then immediately slow down meaning I have to pull out and overtake them. Worst was me overtaking the same car 3 times going down the A1, I kept a constant 70mph the entire time.
I had that, a guy in the gold qashqui, 7 times he overtook me around the M25 total cock socket. I never changed my speed once. All started when I overtook him in the outside lane. He started to match my speed, then continued from there.Darryl247W said:
I reckon folk are driving along at a reasonable pace, but when somebody tries to pass it flicks a switch in their head that says "Ooooh, I mustn't be going fast enough, I must speed up a tad." As someone who tries to think the best of people, I hope they do it subconsciously but the fact remains they've hung someone out to dry in the outside lane.
It's for this reason I overtake with the foot to the board. It's odd how you're tootling behind someone who is maybe at 50-55mph on a single-carriageway, but when you overtake you find you're reaching for 75mph because you're not passing them as quickly as you anticipated. Having gained enough distance and pulling back in and dropping to 60mph, they soon seem to be disappearing into the distance because they've dropped down towards 50mph again. Gnnnnah!
i used to get fairly wound up about this, not anymore as i have come to the same opinion as you,most of the time,especially on a and b roads it appears to be sub conscious .there is always the odd deliberate one ,but if they speed up when i am overtaking and maintain that speed, then no problem . if they slow down again too much for corners etc then an overtake that takes a bit of planning by someone that actually pays attention to their driving is usually possible sometime in the next few miles.It's for this reason I overtake with the foot to the board. It's odd how you're tootling behind someone who is maybe at 50-55mph on a single-carriageway, but when you overtake you find you're reaching for 75mph because you're not passing them as quickly as you anticipated. Having gained enough distance and pulling back in and dropping to 60mph, they soon seem to be disappearing into the distance because they've dropped down towards 50mph again. Gnnnnah!
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