Are z4 20i safe for a pop and bang map

Are z4 20i safe for a pop and bang map

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Contron22

Original Poster:

6 posts

86 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Hey guys I'm new to this so go easy haha. I'm buying a bmw 63 plate z4 sdrive 20i and I want to get it remapped. I've been told their safe for 260bhp but tbh I'd feel better if I got it mapped to 240 just to be safe. Also I want a pop and bang map installed. But my mapping place has told me that these engine their is a risk of blowing the valves out and he would recommend it for my car. What's your guys thoughts ? See I thought this engine was the same as the new mini cooper s engine. And they pop for fun standard. So what's the truth behind this ??

R8Steve

4,150 posts

175 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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If anyone seen a 63 plate Z4 sdrive 2.0 popping and banging they would just assume it was broken, don't do it.

I can't imagine 'pop and bang' maps are good for any car in the long run.

Osinjak

5,453 posts

121 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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I'll bite, what the hell is a 'pop and bang' map?

Huff

3,143 posts

191 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Osinjak said:
I'll bite, what the hell is a 'pop and bang' map?
The Tomy 'My First' substitute for a quick car.

S10GTA

12,672 posts

167 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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51mes

1,498 posts

200 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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OMG - so let me get this right it's going to put extra fuel in, to get unburnt fuel out, so it can go pop in the exhaust.

Apart from it being completely irritating after a while (10-15 seconds for me), I'm fairly sure it's not doing the cat any good..

But hey it's your car and if it's what you want to do...

I'd much rather spend the money on something useful - put it towards a new exhaust or an induction kit - or even some driver training..

S.

Osinjak

5,453 posts

121 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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S10GTA said:
Dear God, no.

AdamIndy

1,661 posts

104 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Will it be a generic remap or a proper one? If it's generic I doubt you will be able to choose how much power it will or won't produce.

As for getting a crackle map, don't do it. It sounds utter ste. Like a fart in a bean can.

Contron22

Original Poster:

6 posts

86 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Just to let yous know. I will be getting a custom exhaust on the car. For this map I'd have to run decats or very top end sports cats for it to handle the pops. But anyway I'm not sure if I will get the pop and bang added. But have any of yous had experience with mapping this engine ?

Contron22

Original Poster:

6 posts

86 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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It will be a proper rolling rode custom map buddy. They have said I can give them a power figure and they will tune It to that output. They said their normal map for this engine is 258 on a totaly stock car so I was saying 240 to keep it under stressed?

aka_kerrly

12,417 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Contron22 said:
They said their normal map for this engine is 258 on a totaly stock car so I was saying 240 to keep it under stressed?
Or don't abuse it if you are worried about breaking it?

The pops & bangs map seems like a load of **** , just where are you planning on utilising such a feature??

Ilovejapcrap

3,280 posts

112 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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aka_kerrly said:
Contron22 said:
They said their normal map for this engine is 258 on a totaly stock car so I was saying 240 to keep it under stressed?
Or don't abuse it if you are worried about breaking it?

The pops & bangs map seems like a load of **** , just where are you planning on utilising such a feature??
Gotta Be McDonalds ?

Contron22

Original Poster:

6 posts

86 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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OK I se your points so it's probably not a good idea to get a pop and bang map. I just thought it would be good fun for when I go down my local car meet and car shows. The reason why I was saying 240 bhp is because ac shnitcher ( possibly the biggest bmw tuner. Maybe of exception of dinnan) they map this car to 245 and give you a compleat warranty to back any faults up. But it costs 2500 pound so I thought it would be a good idea to ask my local tuner to map my car to the same or close to the same specs as ac shnitchers map

Mr MXT

7,691 posts

283 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Spend the money on English lessons.

mmm-five

11,236 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Chipping/remapping turbo engine is relatively straightforward and big gains are not hard to get (I'm not recommending any tuner in specific, but Superchips remap is an 80bhp & 55lbft gain for about £400; CelticTuning offer 30/60/100bhp upgrades with similar increases in torque; Evolve offer 75-85bhp for £600).

I also understand that you're going to save a stload of cash by going to a different tuner, but are they also going to offer the same warranty as ACS in case the added torque/power from your remap causes your engine/gearbox/clutch/flywheel problems?

Make sure it's a reputable tuner and ask them what their warranty covers - although most will say it only covers damage that you can prove was caused directly by the remap.

Don't forget the extra cost of your insurance too, as anything over about a 10% increase comes with a heavy premium increase (and don't forget to tell them about the exhaust, cats, intake, etc. that you'll also have added).

Edited by mmm-five on Tuesday 21st February 10:44

tonymor

1,481 posts

172 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Why don't you save the money you would spend on all this and opt for the six cylinder options to give more power plus if a remap breaks those engines that's big money. Also reselling it at a later date might not be easy I m o .

counterofbeans

1,061 posts

139 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Contron22 said:
Hey guys I'm new to this so go easy haha. I'm buying a bmw 63 plate z4 sdrive 20i and I want to get it remapped. I've been told their safe for 260bhp but tbh I'd feel better if I got it mapped to 240 just to be safe. Also I want a pop and bang map installed. But my mapping place has told me that these engine their is a risk of blowing the valves out and he would recommend it for my car. What's your guys thoughts ? See I thought this engine was the same as the new mini cooper s engine. And they pop for fun standard. So what's the truth behind this ??
How can you be driving at all? You're clearly 12 years old

Osinjak

5,453 posts

121 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Mr MXT said:
Spend the money on English lessons.
Bit unnecessary wasn't it? We're all here for different reasons.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Osinjak said:
Mr MXT said:
Spend the money on English lessons.
Bit unnecessary wasn't it? We're all here for different reasons.

Yes but you can see his point.

JoyceyBoy

102 posts

124 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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REALIST123 said:
Osinjak said:
Mr MXT said:
Spend the money on English lessons.
Bit unnecessary wasn't it? We're all here for different reasons.

Yes but you can see his point.
Still not called for.