Worcester, ideal, Bali, vaillant - which one?

Worcester, ideal, Bali, vaillant - which one?

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mondeoman

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11,430 posts

265 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Have an urgent need to replace a 10yo Baxi Solo HE24, as it's leaking a bit (!), and it looks as though these are the manufacturers of the favourite / most common replacements.

I'd like to upgrade to a 30kw (20s detached 5 bed) as I think that 24kw is just a little bit on the small side, but which one would you put your money into?

Budget is c£1k max for boiler + 1.4m flue, fitting extra on top.

Baxi EcoBlue
Worcester Greenstar cdi
Ideal Logic +
Vaillant EcoTec Plus

Ideal is cheapest, but will it "just work" and be reliable?

quinny100

920 posts

185 months

Monday 20th February 2017
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Ideal Logic are not bad boilers, but Ideal's reputation remains tarnished by some of the junk like the Isar they were producing 10 years ago.

Worcester are decent, and you can get a very long warranty if you use an approved installer. Likewise Vailant, but they tend to be bit more expensive.

Unless the Ideal is more than £200 cheaper than the Worcester, I'd go for the Worcester.

moles

1,794 posts

243 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Worcester or vaillant

richatnort

3,018 posts

130 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Many many many topics have come up on this and you'll get told 3 choices

Ideal - cheap and so so
Worchester or valliant - both more expensive but not much in them really but i'd personally go for a Valliant. We had one in our old house and never went wrong and was easy to service.

227bhp

10,203 posts

127 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Baxi.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

140 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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The ideal logic+ gets my vote, good hot water performance.

AshBurrows

2,552 posts

161 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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We went Valliant due to the stainless heat exchanger over the WB Ali jobbie.

towser44

3,472 posts

114 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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AshBurrows said:
We went Valliant due to the stainless heat exchanger over the WB Ali jobbie.
Yes, our Worcester Bosch heat exchanger failed and needed replacing in the first 12 months.

forest07

669 posts

204 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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I recommended a Worcester to the Inlaws and it now had three water leaks on the cheap plastics used inside the boiler!!

So I'll stick to Vaillant in future. Ideal made some good boilers in the past, many of the Classic range are still going strong.

TonyR

mondeoman

Original Poster:

11,430 posts

265 months

Tuesday 21st February 2017
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Ask three men a question, get 4 different answers. I do like the idea of stainless heat exchanger, but if the system is treated with fernox at time of install, an alloy exchanger should last ok.
More concerned about the robustness of the controls and peripherals - current Baxi, despite leaking like a sieve now (some time with no fernox), has been great , with only a flame sensor change last year. If it wasn't leaking, I wouldn't change it.