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I'm against budget and part worn tyres. I look after my cars and like to maintain them properly. Servicing, quality parts, decent rubber.
I've used mid range before and they are adequate in most situations, but if i can afford it I will get the best value premium tyre I can afford.
On my Audi I paid 86 quid a corner for the latest good year performance tyre. Eagle 3s. Michelin's were 120 a corner, bargain, and with the way I chuck the car about when it's warmed up ... I'm glad I have them.
I've used mid range before and they are adequate in most situations, but if i can afford it I will get the best value premium tyre I can afford.
On my Audi I paid 86 quid a corner for the latest good year performance tyre. Eagle 3s. Michelin's were 120 a corner, bargain, and with the way I chuck the car about when it's warmed up ... I'm glad I have them.
I have had 'ThreeA' brand tyres before, they are roughly £30 each fitted in 16" size and have found them to be very good, especially in the wet. They stop better then some midrange tyres I had on before, I have tried a few hard stops in the wet and they pull up very well. I will replace them with the same when the time comes, perfectly good for the daily.
I'll stick to the R888's or Ad08r's for the fun car though!
I'll stick to the R888's or Ad08r's for the fun car though!
Hi said:
I have had 'ThreeA' brand tyres before, they are roughly £30 each fitted in 16" size and have found them to be very good, especially in the wet. They stop better then some midrange tyres I had on before, I have tried a few hard stops in the wet and they pull up very well. I will replace them with the same when the time comes, perfectly good for the daily.
I'll stick to the R888's or Ad08r's for the fun car though!
I had them on my old mondeo. I swapped them for verdestien winters and I thought I had made a massive mistake, the esp light would be flickering on at wet junctions when the threeA tyres were fine. I'll stick to the R888's or Ad08r's for the fun car though!
Due to some seriously poor planning, my Boxster is currently on budgets. Mismatched front to rear, too...
Infinity Ecomax on the front and Nankang NS2 on the rear.
It's actually fine, but I do plan to fit a set of Hankooks at some point.
In my defence, the fronts were desperately needed to ensure I didn't miss a track day (it was all my local man had on the shelf), and the rears were to pass an MOT after trashing them on said track day.
My Trabi is running a matched set of Windforce. Couldn't see much point in anything better!
Infinity Ecomax on the front and Nankang NS2 on the rear.
It's actually fine, but I do plan to fit a set of Hankooks at some point.
In my defence, the fronts were desperately needed to ensure I didn't miss a track day (it was all my local man had on the shelf), and the rears were to pass an MOT after trashing them on said track day.
My Trabi is running a matched set of Windforce. Couldn't see much point in anything better!
This old chestnut again? Isn't it strange how much anecdotal evidence from people who've bought them is fairly positive?
Personally I've yet to see an independent tyre test where the cheaper brands do anything but trail woefully behind even mid range brands like Toyo/Uniroyal/Kumho when proper testing under controlled conditions is performed, and usually in situations where you'll need to rely on them most.
Personally I've yet to see an independent tyre test where the cheaper brands do anything but trail woefully behind even mid range brands like Toyo/Uniroyal/Kumho when proper testing under controlled conditions is performed, and usually in situations where you'll need to rely on them most.
I never understand the budget tyres argument.
You can "drive to the conditions", anticipate and not barrel into roundabouts as much as you like.
When something unpredictable happens a premium tyre will stop faster, swerve harder and aquaplain later. Every tyre test shows this, the big companies invest in racing and research for a reason.
Not worth it.
You can "drive to the conditions", anticipate and not barrel into roundabouts as much as you like.
When something unpredictable happens a premium tyre will stop faster, swerve harder and aquaplain later. Every tyre test shows this, the big companies invest in racing and research for a reason.
Not worth it.
I don't know - one leasing company at work used to replace original tyres with Firestone and they were horrendous in the wet. But very quiet, presumeably due to hard tread compound.
I had Ceat tyres on one car very near the end of its lease and it was tough to brake without the ABS triggering.
I had Ceat tyres on one car very near the end of its lease and it was tough to brake without the ABS triggering.
DJP said:
They're "Presa" brand (nope, never heard of them either!).
http://www.presallantas.com/EnglishWebsite/index_f...So a Thai/Taiwanese brand of Cheng Shin, the people behind Maxxis. They don't seem to be listed on AliBaba. You might have got lucky...
Edited by TooMany2cvs on Wednesday 22 February 23:16
SWoll said:
This old chestnut again? Isn't it strange how much anecdotal evidence from people who've bought them is fairly positive?
Personally I've yet to see an independent tyre test where the cheaper brands do anything but trail woefully behind even mid range brands like Toyo/Uniroyal/Kumho when proper testing under controlled conditions is performed, and usually in situations where you'll need to rely on them most.
When you say independant, are these in magazines that don't have tyre adverts in?Personally I've yet to see an independent tyre test where the cheaper brands do anything but trail woefully behind even mid range brands like Toyo/Uniroyal/Kumho when proper testing under controlled conditions is performed, and usually in situations where you'll need to rely on them most.
Also - how many people use their tyres "doing proper testing under controlled conditions".
VWs have excellent NOx emissions when "tested under controlled conditions"
I wouldn't fit budgets out of choice, however I'm not one of those who will buy a car with budgets on and immediately change the tyres irrespective of traditional depths.
That said if I was in the market for a 300bhp+ car I would avoid those running budgets as it seems to have the stigma of running on a shoe string
That said if I was in the market for a 300bhp+ car I would avoid those running budgets as it seems to have the stigma of running on a shoe string
Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
pits said:
Wait till it rains it you need to do an emergency stop
Assuming he's driving sensibly and paying attention, it shouldn't be an issue. Wait till you get caught out, because everyone gets caught out and you do require grip for stopping and avoiding in the wet.
ch108 said:
I made the mistake of buying budget tyres (can't remember what brand) a few years back for a Renault Laguna I had. Within 15 minutes of getting them fitted I done a very slow 360 degree spin in the pouring rain on a roundabout I used every day. I couldn't have been doing more than 15mph as the roundabout was well known for having an odd camber, so it wasn't one that people tackled at any great speed.
It's feasible a similar thing could happen with premium tyres; the mould release compound interferes with grip, especially in wet weather, and takes a few miles to wear off.wormus said:
I put Falken 452s on my 800hp Monaro a few years ago and they worked great initially...in the dry. Totally s
t when part worn and atrocious in the wet.
Glad someone else is experiencing this. I've changed from Goodyear Eagles to Falken ZE914 (albeit only on an Alfa Romeo diesel) and I've noticed that it constantly feels like I've got 3 PSI in the wet, but OK in the dry. t when part worn and atrocious in the wet. Rickyy said:
Nexen is the cheapest I will go. I've only ever fitted them on my vans and I'll probably fit them to my Grand Vitara, which actually came with Nexens on it. We have done 15k on them and they still have a few months left to go.
Yeah, Nexen are a decent sized company here in Korea. Not as big as Hankook, but fairly common and reputable. I wouldn't hesitate to use them.The Spruce goose said:
my tyres are 205 55 16. not sports tyres. branded tyres are 55 quid budgets 45 quid. to save 10 quid a Tyre over a years usage is just being a cheapskate, and the difference is clear from reviews and grades for fuel and wet weather performance.
For that size there is a well known auction site that has a tyre centre based in Shipley that does a pair of rainsport 3 for £90. I've bought quite a few now and they have been excellent tyres. I got chatting to the guys at Shipley and they openly admitted they make a few quid a tyre but sell thousands.I put a set of Lasso on my e36 328i. It's only used in the summer and they have been excellent. Bridgestone make them I am told...
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/ seems like a decent site for those of us more interested in test results than anecdotal ´evidence´.
I´m not affiliated with the site in any way before anyone accuses me of being a shill.
I believe the bloke who runs the site is a PHer.
I´m not affiliated with the site in any way before anyone accuses me of being a shill.
I believe the bloke who runs the site is a PHer.
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