So I did buy some LingLong Ditchfinders
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I had a chat with some tyre fitters when I took a car in for tracking, and he was astonished by the number of owners of powerful RWD cars asking for budget tyres.. He also stated that they weren't long at all before coming back for replacements, false economy perhaps?
I know full well that I must fit N rated tyres to my fun car as it isn't insured otherwise, how would you fare as the owner of a powerful car that was involved in a crash due to sudden loss or lack of grip, that had budget tyres fitted?
Is there a scenario where the investigating team could point to having substandard tyres fitted contributed to the accident? Not a pleasant thought. Saved a few £££ but ended up with consequences far worse.
My near worthless 11 year old 330d is fitted with matched high performance tyres(conti sportcontact6) as it is quite a handful on crap tyres, and like others have said why take a chance with the only contact patches your car has?
I know full well that I must fit N rated tyres to my fun car as it isn't insured otherwise, how would you fare as the owner of a powerful car that was involved in a crash due to sudden loss or lack of grip, that had budget tyres fitted?
Is there a scenario where the investigating team could point to having substandard tyres fitted contributed to the accident? Not a pleasant thought. Saved a few £££ but ended up with consequences far worse.
My near worthless 11 year old 330d is fitted with matched high performance tyres(conti sportcontact6) as it is quite a handful on crap tyres, and like others have said why take a chance with the only contact patches your car has?
Huskyman said:
I had a chat with some tyre fitters when I took a car in for tracking, and he was astonished by the number of owners of powerful RWD cars asking for budget tyres.. He also stated that they weren't long at all before coming back for replacements, false economy perhaps?
I know full well that I must fit N rated tyres to my fun car as it isn't insured otherwise,
Is that what your tyre fitter told you? - I had one try that on me, too. I don't go there anymore.I know full well that I must fit N rated tyres to my fun car as it isn't insured otherwise,
Huskyman said:
I know full well that I must fit N rated tyres to my fun car as it isn't insured otherwise
87mph rated?Oh, you don't mean the speed rating. You mean the manufacturer approval? I call custard on that one. Quote the bit of your insurance Ts & Cs that specify that, please...
M-SportMatt said:
When my child runs out in front of a car by accident outside school or somewhere, i hope to god its in front of someone with the best possible tyres.
that extra metre stopping distance could change more than one persons life
I hope you have at least written to every vehicle manufacturer and lease company to ask them to do this. that extra metre stopping distance could change more than one persons life
Then once you have succeeded with them you can start on the fitting companies and then companies that run their own fleets.
You could maybe start though by mentioning it to thirty people on the internet and then calling some of them names. For maximum impact.
otolith said:
It's mine. If you can't afford wide, low profile tyres for big rims, don't buy a car that wears them. Buy something that takes tyres you can afford not to be a cheapskate on.
I reckon they've got a better chance of stopping shorter on inexpensive 255/35 Linglong Greenmaxs fitted to a used but well maintained e46 BMW than they would on pricey 175/65 Michelin EcoSavers on the Hyundai i10 they bought because otolith and M-SportMatt looked down their noses at them and said that was as much car they could afford to put tyres otolith and M-SportMatt approved of on.But otolith and M-SportMatt know best clearly.
Edited by r11co on Tuesday 28th February 20:44
talksthetorque said:
I hope you have at least written to every vehicle manufacturer and lease company to ask them to do this.
Then once you have succeeded with them you can start on the fitting companies and then companies that run their own fleets.
You could maybe start though by mentioning it to thirty people on the internet and then calling some of them names. For maximum impact.
Haven't called anyone names, please quote where Then once you have succeeded with them you can start on the fitting companies and then companies that run their own fleets.
You could maybe start though by mentioning it to thirty people on the internet and then calling some of them names. For maximum impact.
r11co said:
I reckon they've got a better chance of stopping shorter on inexpensive 255/35 Linglong Greenmaxs fitted to a used but well maintained e46 BMW than they would on pricey 175/65 Michelin EcoSavers on the Hyundai i10 they bought because otolith and M-SportMatt looked down their noses at them and said that was as much car they could afford to put tyres they approved of on.
What's the car got to do with it? Same car then premiums will stop better than ling longs.Your post clearly shows you have a chip on your shoulder about money not the topic in hand.
M-SportMatt said:
Haven't called anyone names, please quote where
Certainly. M-SportMatt said:
The best possible tyres available to the driver of that vehicle you internet pedant.
And I particularly liked M-SportMatt said:
ling long spacco buyers
Edited by talksthetorque on Tuesday 28th February 21:08
traffman said:
Friend of mine bought 4 Goodrides...that was the name ! He took a roundabout at the usual speed and found himself swapping ends. Cheap and nasty. 25 quid a corner i believe.
I had a set of those on a car I bought, they were terrible in the wet but ok in the dry, still better than the Pirelli P6000 pieces of plastic I had on another car.poing said:
traffman said:
Friend of mine bought 4 Goodrides...that was the name ! He took a roundabout at the usual speed and found himself swapping ends. Cheap and nasty. 25 quid a corner i believe.
I had a set of those on a car I bought, they were terrible in the wet but ok in the dry, still better than the Pirelli P6000 pieces of plastic I had on another car.
r11co said:
So do you accept that the best possible tyre available to that person at that moment might be a full set LingLong Greenmax that three months ago they replaced a five year age-hardened set of Bridgestones that had 1mm's worth of legal tread left with because the full set of Linglongs was less than the cost of one replacement Bridgestone that had been wrecked by a pothole strike?
What you are saying is that that money is more important that the performance of a tyre for you. Why not just say that?Mr2Mike said:
What you are saying is that that money is more important that the performance of a tyre for you. Why not just say that?
I'm sure r11co will correct me but based on this and other similar threads here is his usual position;-Premium tyres are no longer being developed / improved (or at least the development is so slow that some midrange and budget tyres are able to catch up)
-A midrange or budget tyre carefully selected by those in the know might be just as good as a premium tyre and at a fraction of the price.
Therefore r11co's position is basically one of inverse snobbery, premium tyre buyers are being mugged off and he and other enlightened people are enjoying tyres which are basically just as good and also happen to be much cheaper.
r11co said:
I reckon they've got a better chance of stopping shorter on inexpensive 255/35 Linglong Greenmaxs fitted to a used but well maintained e46 BMW than they would on pricey 175/65 Michelin EcoSavers on the Hyundai i10
Or perhaps a BMW 116d with 205/55/16 Contisports all round versus one pimped with the M tyre option and 225/40/18 / 245/35/18 Tigar Syneris? I know what I would rather drive on a cold, damp road.otolith said:
Or perhaps a BMW 116d with 205/55/16 Contisports all round versus one pimped with the M tyre option and 225/40/18 / 245/35/18 Tigar Syneris? I know what I would rather drive on a cold, damp road.
Subtle dig, but I have a set of stepped 17's with Potenzas......more than a match for 16" and ling long retardosCurrently running 16" steels with Dunlop winter tyres, I bet they stop better than a set of summer ling mongs too
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