RE: Lamborghini Huracan Performante at the 'ring
Discussion
MikeGalos said:
Yipper said:
Lambo is now crushing Ferrari, Porsche and McLaren.
Of course they are, they're actually following the traditional Lotus playbook of reducing weight while everybody else just boosts engine size and output.Roflmao 
that anyone is STILL saying the 918 did a Ring time. 
Watch the video, thats not a production 918. And we know the P1 Destroys La Fer and 918, both of which think it fine to have wider tires than the P1, more power or electirc geared down motors and 4WD and wont turn up to get an ass whooping with out insisting the P1 runs road tires and they both STILL loose to the P1 LOL. 
Mclaren is schooling them all.
As for this R8 in drag aka Huracan aka a 2017 Lambo without lambo doors
, all its got to do is turn up and use a production car and its won. But im guessing its still got a huge amount of Gloss black at the bottom of the tiny windscreen.. Audi Fail. I like the active Aero though 
that anyone is STILL saying the 918 did a Ring time. Watch the video, thats not a production 918. And we know the P1 Destroys La Fer and 918, both of which think it fine to have wider tires than the P1, more power or electirc geared down motors and 4WD and wont turn up to get an ass whooping with out insisting the P1 runs road tires and they both STILL loose to the P1 LOL. Mclaren is schooling them all.
As for this R8 in drag aka Huracan aka a 2017 Lambo without lambo doors
, all its got to do is turn up and use a production car and its won. But im guessing its still got a huge amount of Gloss black at the bottom of the tiny windscreen.. Audi Fail. I like the active Aero though noble12345 said:
Roflmao that anyone is STILL saying the 918 did a Ring time. Watch the video, thats not a production 918. And we know the P1 Destroys La Fer and 918, both of which think it fine to have wider tires than the P1, more power or electirc geared down motors and 4WD and wont turn up to get an ass whooping with out insisting the P1 runs road tires and they both STILL loose to the P1 LOL.
Mclaren is schooling them all.
As for this R8 in drag aka Huracan aka a 2017 Lambo without lambo doors, all its got to do is turn up and use a production car and its won. But im guessing its still got a huge amount of Gloss black at the bottom of the tiny windscreen.. Audi Fail. I like the active Aero though
Given that show that isn't top gear, didn't the P1 get beaten by both the Laf and 918 on pretty much ALL of the tests they did and they where all on the same tyres? that anyone is STILL saying the 918 did a Ring time. Watch the video, thats not a production 918. And we know the P1 Destroys La Fer and 918, both of which think it fine to have wider tires than the P1, more power or electirc geared down motors and 4WD and wont turn up to get an ass whooping with out insisting the P1 runs road tires and they both STILL loose to the P1 LOL. Mclaren is schooling them all.
As for this R8 in drag aka Huracan aka a 2017 Lambo without lambo doors
, all its got to do is turn up and use a production car and its won. But im guessing its still got a huge amount of Gloss black at the bottom of the tiny windscreen.. Audi Fail. I like the active Aero though R8 in drag. ROFLMAO
Never you mind said:
Given that show that isn't top gear, didn't the P1 get beaten by both the Laf and 918 on pretty much ALL of the tests they did and they where all on the same tyres?
Not according to Chris Harris...https://youtu.be/q3YPTkBRaOk
As much as Grand Tour is fairly enjoyable it is kinda b
ks for accurate reporting.
Spoiler alert... after a properly scientific test including gopro footage of each lap with V-Box timing... and nothing hidden. The P1 is clearly on top.. and once the Trofeo R tyre is fitted for an example lap... wow
Edited to add... according to Harris the standard tyres on the LaF and P1 are equal. The standard 918 tyres Are actually more track biased out of the box. It's talked about in the video around the time they are setting the laps.
Oh, and these are exactly the same cars on the same track around about the same days, that Grand Tour tested and claimed all had 'identical tyres'
ks for accurate reporting. Spoiler alert... after a properly scientific test including gopro footage of each lap with V-Box timing... and nothing hidden. The P1 is clearly on top.. and once the Trofeo R tyre is fitted for an example lap... wow
Edited to add... according to Harris the standard tyres on the LaF and P1 are equal. The standard 918 tyres Are actually more track biased out of the box. It's talked about in the video around the time they are setting the laps.
Oh, and these are exactly the same cars on the same track around about the same days, that Grand Tour tested and claimed all had 'identical tyres'
Edited by Civpilot on Thursday 23 February 21:40
Edited by Civpilot on Thursday 23 February 21:40
noble12345 said:
Roflmao that anyone is STILL saying the 918 did a Ring time. Watch the video, thats not a production 918. And we know the P1 Destroys La Fer and 918, both of which think it fine to have wider tires than the P1, more power or electirc geared down motors and 4WD and wont turn up to get an ass whooping with out insisting the P1 runs road tires and they both STILL loose to the P1 LOL.
Mclaren is schooling them all.
As for this R8 in drag aka Huracan aka a 2017 Lambo without lambo doors, all its got to do is turn up and use a production car and its won. But im guessing its still got a huge amount of Gloss black at the bottom of the tiny windscreen.. Audi Fail. I like the active Aero though
Which marque have you spent your own money on? that anyone is STILL saying the 918 did a Ring time. Watch the video, thats not a production 918. And we know the P1 Destroys La Fer and 918, both of which think it fine to have wider tires than the P1, more power or electirc geared down motors and 4WD and wont turn up to get an ass whooping with out insisting the P1 runs road tires and they both STILL loose to the P1 LOL. Mclaren is schooling them all.
As for this R8 in drag aka Huracan aka a 2017 Lambo without lambo doors
, all its got to do is turn up and use a production car and its won. But im guessing its still got a huge amount of Gloss black at the bottom of the tiny windscreen.. Audi Fail. I like the active Aero though These threads always make me smile. Grown men (wealthy businessmen/owners) in some cases squabbling over a half a second difference between various cars. It would be utterly undetectable and irrelevant on the road. They are all s
t hot fast and uber desirable but it really seems to get people's backs up. Civpilot said:
As much as Grand Tour is fairly enjoyable it is kinda bks for accurate reporting.
Spoiler alert... after a properly scientific test including gopro footage of each lap with V-Box timing... and nothing hidden. The P1 is clearly on top.. and once the Trofeo R tyre is fitted for an example lap... wow
Edited to add... according to Harris the standard tyres on the LaF and P1 are equal. The standard 918 tyres Are actually more track biased out of the box. It's talked about in the video around the time they are setting the laps.
Oh, and these are exactly the same cars on the same track around about the same days, that Grand Tour tested and claimed all had 'identical tyres'
Brilliant video. No idea which one I'd choose, all three are mega.ks for accurate reporting. Spoiler alert... after a properly scientific test including gopro footage of each lap with V-Box timing... and nothing hidden. The P1 is clearly on top.. and once the Trofeo R tyre is fitted for an example lap... wow
Edited to add... according to Harris the standard tyres on the LaF and P1 are equal. The standard 918 tyres Are actually more track biased out of the box. It's talked about in the video around the time they are setting the laps.
Oh, and these are exactly the same cars on the same track around about the same days, that Grand Tour tested and claimed all had 'identical tyres'
Edited by Civpilot on Thursday 23 February 21:40
Edited by Civpilot on Thursday 23 February 21:40
Two things though;
Firstly Chris does say that the times are so close that a single mistake on a single corner would make the difference between coming first and coming last.
Secondly I would have liked to see the McLaren do a time in it's road setting as well just for a full comparison and to see how much time is gained by the 50mm drop in ride height.
Surely one, if not both, of the other cars has the potential to be faster if they were able to drop to the height that the Mclaren does?
gigglebug said:
Brilliant video. No idea which one I'd choose, all three are mega.
Two things though;
Firstly Chris does say that the times are so close that a single mistake on a single corner would make the difference between coming first and coming last.
Secondly I would have liked to see the McLaren do a time in it's road setting as well just for a full comparison and to see how much time is gained by the 50mm drop in ride height.
Surely one, if not both, of the other cars has the potential to be faster if they were able to drop to the height that the Mclaren does?
Chris did say though it was a track test, and not a 'road' test. So using the P1 in road mode was pretty pointless. Two things though;
Firstly Chris does say that the times are so close that a single mistake on a single corner would make the difference between coming first and coming last.
Secondly I would have liked to see the McLaren do a time in it's road setting as well just for a full comparison and to see how much time is gained by the 50mm drop in ride height.
Surely one, if not both, of the other cars has the potential to be faster if they were able to drop to the height that the Mclaren does?
Also, the 918 has the fully track biased 'weissach' package fitted. So had he flipped the P1 out of race mode then a bog standard 918 would have also been required to complete the fiarness stakes
Civpilot said:
Chris did say though it was a track test, and not a 'road' test. So using the P1 in road mode was pretty pointless.
Also, the 918 has the fully track biased 'weissach' package fitted. So had he flipped the P1 out of race mode then a bog standard 918 would have also been required to complete the fiarness stakes
Yep I did hear that bit as well, and I have no problem with either it or the result of this test, but it makes no difference to to my comment. The weissach package only consists of lightweight parts which at most save around 40kg and a different rear diffuser so is nothing like being able to drop the ride height of the car to the floor, think better aero and lower COG. The Weissach is still a road legal car so not comparable to a non legal P1 in track mode. My guess would be that running the P1 in it's road set up would bring a far greater greater penalty than stripping the 918 of it's Weissach package. But that was the point of my post in the first place. I would have liked to have seen a time set for the P1 in it's road setting as well, not for the sake of any fairness towards the other two manufacturers but to see how bigger difference, firstly as regards to lap time achievable but also in regards to how it feels, there is between it's two positions.Also, the 918 has the fully track biased 'weissach' package fitted. So had he flipped the P1 out of race mode then a bog standard 918 would have also been required to complete the fiarness stakes
Never you mind said:
noble12345 said:
Roflmao that anyone is STILL saying the 918 did a Ring time. Watch the video, thats not a production 918. And we know the P1 Destroys La Fer and 918, both of which think it fine to have wider tires than the P1, more power or electirc geared down motors and 4WD and wont turn up to get an ass whooping with out insisting the P1 runs road tires and they both STILL loose to the P1 LOL.
Mclaren is schooling them all.
As for this R8 in drag aka Huracan aka a 2017 Lambo without lambo doors, all its got to do is turn up and use a production car and its won. But im guessing its still got a huge amount of Gloss black at the bottom of the tiny windscreen.. Audi Fail. I like the active Aero though
Given that show that isn't top gear, didn't the P1 get beaten by both the Laf and 918 on pretty much ALL of the tests they did and they where all on the same tyres? that anyone is STILL saying the 918 did a Ring time. Watch the video, thats not a production 918. And we know the P1 Destroys La Fer and 918, both of which think it fine to have wider tires than the P1, more power or electirc geared down motors and 4WD and wont turn up to get an ass whooping with out insisting the P1 runs road tires and they both STILL loose to the P1 LOL. Mclaren is schooling them all.
As for this R8 in drag aka Huracan aka a 2017 Lambo without lambo doors
, all its got to do is turn up and use a production car and its won. But im guessing its still got a huge amount of Gloss black at the bottom of the tiny windscreen.. Audi Fail. I like the active Aero though R8 in drag. ROFLMAO
In Chris Harris' video of all 3 at Portimao the P1 was still faster when all 3 cars were using control tyres and was a couple of seconds faster when on Trofeos. Apply that difference at the 'Ring which is a far longer track and the difference would be considerable.
All top trump b0ll0cks anyway.
I prefer this subtle adaptable aero methodology (on some decidedly unsubtle aero). Little adjustments that make large differences. It's quite cool how the LaF and P1 deploy giant walls at their back end to help balance on braking, but I like the more... f-duct-like approach that this seems to employ.
On a near 14 mile track that threatens a crash at every turn , I think people forgot that a lot of the ring times are down to the talents and suicidal tendencies of the drivers!
It also shows that many people buy these cars because they are more impressed with boasting statistics to there mates down the pub.
If I was spending that sort of money, I would be far more interested in how much fun it is on a traditional bumpy a/b road at 50 mph in the countryside.
It also shows that many people buy these cars because they are more impressed with boasting statistics to there mates down the pub.
If I was spending that sort of money, I would be far more interested in how much fun it is on a traditional bumpy a/b road at 50 mph in the countryside.
Could this Huracan Performante be the first Lamborghini actually worth owning?
Previously owned a Gallardo Performante and still love the way it looks but was ultimately disappointed with the way it drove compared to the competition.
I dislike the styling of the standard Huracan but expect this performante to fix the soft, Audi TT curvy looks the standard car suffers from. Please also sort out the understeer.
Previously owned a Gallardo Performante and still love the way it looks but was ultimately disappointed with the way it drove compared to the competition.
I dislike the styling of the standard Huracan but expect this performante to fix the soft, Audi TT curvy looks the standard car suffers from. Please also sort out the understeer.
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