RE: New Ford Fiesta ST - official!
Discussion
I'm quite tempted by one of these as a run around, especially now that you can get B&O Stereo and CarPlay.
Slightly disappointed by the rear end though, it looks like an ordinary Fiesta whereas the current ST looks aggressive from all angles.
I'll reserve judgement until I see one in the flesh, but it may end up being my first ever new car purchase if it's good to drive.
Slightly disappointed by the rear end though, it looks like an ordinary Fiesta whereas the current ST looks aggressive from all angles.
I'll reserve judgement until I see one in the flesh, but it may end up being my first ever new car purchase if it's good to drive.
Traded my 140bhp 1.0 on the right, for the ST on the left and never looked back.
Ensure about the announcement as you could say I am the perfect target audience for the new ST.
Will reserve judgement until a test drive next year.
I like the improved entertainment options along with the ability to adjust the ride characteristics (Current ST quite stiff) and love the idea of a three cylinder with 200bhp however hate the idea of piped sound through the speakers.
People making comments on the engine being stressed are laughable.
Ensure about the announcement as you could say I am the perfect target audience for the new ST.
Will reserve judgement until a test drive next year.
I like the improved entertainment options along with the ability to adjust the ride characteristics (Current ST quite stiff) and love the idea of a three cylinder with 200bhp however hate the idea of piped sound through the speakers.
People making comments on the engine being stressed are laughable.
I liked the 1L Ecoboost, but found it gutless off boost, and slow to spool up.
The ST certainly wasn't gutless, and I doubt the new one will be either. It might have a heavy flywheel to balance the engine though.
The ride quality of the ST was the deal breaker for me - I wonder if they've managed to improve it?
The ST certainly wasn't gutless, and I doubt the new one will be either. It might have a heavy flywheel to balance the engine though.
The ride quality of the ST was the deal breaker for me - I wonder if they've managed to improve it?
gweaver said:
I liked the 1L Ecoboost, but found it gutless off boost, and slow to spool up.
The ST certainly wasn't gutless, and I doubt the new one will be either. It might have a heavy flywheel to balance the engine though.
The ride quality of the ST was the deal breaker for me - I wonder if they've managed to improve it?
The deal breaker for my 1.0 was the heavy flywheel and its characteristic of holding revs too high between gear changes. Also the gearbox let the car down and was torque limited just to dirve me mad. The ST certainly wasn't gutless, and I doubt the new one will be either. It might have a heavy flywheel to balance the engine though.
The ride quality of the ST was the deal breaker for me - I wonder if they've managed to improve it?
GTIAlex said:
The deal breaker for my 1.0 was the heavy flywheel and its characteristic of holding revs too high between gear changes. Also the gearbox let the car down and was torque limited just to dirve me mad.
Agree on that. It wasn't a very sweet gearbox to use either.I think the new ST-Line (yuck name) will have the six speed, but still have the heavy counterweighted flywheel. IDK if the flywheel is the sole reason the revs drop slowly during gear changes though - it could be something to do with emissions. My Swift occasionally holds the revs, most noticeably during block changes, and I've yet to learn how to drive around it.
In what way does it feel stressed? Krikkit said:
markwm said:
I sooo wish car manufacturers would just stop putting single sided exhauss on their cars. I can forgive it on entry levels models but on a performance model like this is just looks so s
t having exhaust pipes only on one side.
Can't tell you how strongly I disagree! Over-exhausting is one of the biggest stupidities of car design these days, particularly with all the fakery going on.t having exhaust pipes only on one side.t (and a bit trying to hard)on a small hot hatch. 18" wheels and a flat-bottom steering wheel? Trying far too hard there Ford. Feels like the marketing lot got a bit eager to have 'more' rather than hold on to what they had, that worked well. Interesting engine tech, not sold on artificial sound, in every BMW I've experienced (including M4 and i8) it's been dreadful.
Agreed with Krikkit on that - but then I like the E39 540i which has just a single tailpipe for its V8 - the shallow fakery prevalent these days wouldn't stand for that. How many tailpipes, and where they are positioned, is a function of many variables, such as back pressure (critical on turbo engines), packaging (boot space/spare wheel well, rear crash, suspension, fuel tank, etc), having a big enough silencer for the noise regulations, cost (sharing parts with the other models in the range), manufacturing feasibility, oh - and how it looks. As much as I abhor a Golf R (or any other 4 cylinder) having 4 tailpipes, I understand the engineering behind why it can't have just two. At least here, the principle 'no. tailpipes < no. cylinders' is met. A twin centre-exit a la Focus ST would have been fun, but likely to be far more expensive to put in place.
Krikkit said:
markwm said:
I sooo wish car manufacturers would just stop putting single sided exhauss on their cars. I can forgive it on entry levels models but on a performance model like this is just looks so st having exhaust pipes only on one side.
Can't tell you how strongly I disagree! Over-exhausting is one of the biggest stupidities of car design these days, particularly with all the fakery going on.t having exhaust pipes only on one side.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff