RE: Huracan Performante clocks 6min 52sec 'ring lap

RE: Huracan Performante clocks 6min 52sec 'ring lap

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Esceptico

7,552 posts

110 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/supertest/lambo...

According to Sportauto the standard Huracan did the lap in 7:28, meaning that the Performante saved 36 seconds. That is an enormous difference.

Esceptico

7,552 posts

110 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Esceptico said:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/supertest/lambo...

According to Sportauto the standard Huracan did the lap in 7:28, meaning that the Performante saved 36 seconds. That is an enormous difference.
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/top-50-supertest-nordschleife-wer-ist-der-schnellste-in-der-hoelle-8228137.html

Actually, having checked it seems the 918 didn't get under 7 minutes when tested independently

sixspeed

2,060 posts

273 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Porsche911R said:
great lap if it was a lap ;-) ie that was NOT A FULL LAP !!!

even though add 3seconds and it still beats every thing, daft mistake to not have made it a full lap though.

it's a 6.55 lap !!!
Wrong. All Sport Auto and Industry lap times are measured from T13 pitlane exit, to the first white line at the start of T13 straight.

Juno

4,481 posts

250 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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PurpleAki said:
Two posters in particular seem to get very emotional about their respective brands...
Seriously I'm not into brands, it's all about the individual car for me be it Macca Porsche Fezza Lambo etc, just so happens the Perfa has won me over at the mo! Nothing against the others at all!

I've even just bought another EVO

Debaser

6,071 posts

262 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Very impressive! I think it's great that manufacturers include time at the Ring during development.

That car looks stable and nicely damped, great for blasting along a b road.

Well done Lamborghini!

Davey S2

13,097 posts

255 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Impressive but its just top trumps between manufacturers.

Other than bragging rights in the pub this will make no difference at all for 99% of owners.


ecs0set

2,471 posts

285 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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PistonHeads Headline said:
Faster than an Aventador SV, faster even than a Porsche 918 Spyder and here's how
PistonHeads Article said:
How has it achieved this time? We don't know yet...
confused

Is this what Trump refers to as "Fake News"? smile

LA458SP

106 posts

107 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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RamboLambo said:
Everyone knows you can't even fit hand luggage in a Huracan let alone go on holiday.

Track "optimised" car with full race team in attendance but a great time and even better stunt and bit of PR work.
Well done Lambo
Optimised car or not all manufacturers (fer, mac etc) are surely playing the same game when it comes to the cars/setup they use for posting these laps. I would guess times are pretty much comparable albeit the standard cars available to purchase may or may not have the exact same performance but the difference would be relative...

ALC 23

6 posts

86 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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MitchT said:
Mike1990 said:
Really do have to praise Lamborghini for sticking to N/A screamers. They simply sound amazing.
Indeed. How come other supercar manufacturers aren't doing the same?
Hello, I could be wrong but I believe it has to do with the corporate structure. As you know manufacturers have emission targets to meet and these can be very challenging.

A group like VW who own many brands have the advantage that the "average" emissions generated by the whole group is not overly affected by producing a few thousand V12's (Lamborghini) when the majority of their engines are 4 cylinder turbo charged units (Audi, VW Skoda etc)

Where as someone like Mclaren would find it very difficult to meet emissions targets if they didn't turbocharge/hybridise their engines.


Kawasicki

13,099 posts

236 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Great job Lamborghini, great driving too, even though I think there might be a little bit more time to be saved too with some line optimisation. The acceleration between 100 and 250km/h looks very, very impressive.

C7 JFW

1,205 posts

220 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Well done Lamborghini! I'd like a go please.

jcl

227 posts

244 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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That close to an SR8?

It must basically be a GT3 race car which probably makes it a useless road car.

Kawasicki

13,099 posts

236 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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jcl said:
That close to an SR8?

It must basically be a GT3 race car which probably makes it a useless road car.
why useless? A fast road car I would say.

British Beef

2,224 posts

166 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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ALC 23 said:
MitchT said:
Mike1990 said:
Really do have to praise Lamborghini for sticking to N/A screamers. They simply sound amazing.
Indeed. How come other supercar manufacturers aren't doing the same?
Hello, I could be wrong but I believe it has to do with the corporate structure. As you know manufacturers have emission targets to meet and these can be very challenging.

A group like VW who own many brands have the advantage that the "average" emissions generated by the whole group is not overly affected by producing a few thousand V12's (Lamborghini) when the majority of their engines are 4 cylinder turbo charged units (Audi, VW Skoda etc)

Where as someone like Mclaren would find it very difficult to meet emissions targets if they didn't turbocharge/hybridise their engines.
This in itself justifies the Brexit vote (assuming emmisions legislations are dictated by Brussels), Mclaren will be back on the v12 train in no time ;-)

Awesome lap, although surpsied Lamborgini have allowed their hal product (Aventador SV) to be superceded by the Huracan! Perhaps this makes way for the Aventador SSSV

stradman

81 posts

196 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Esceptico said:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/supertest/lambo...

According to Sportauto the standard Huracan did the lap in 7:28, meaning that the Performante saved 36 seconds. That is an enormous difference.
I know you said its an enormous difference, but do you honestly believe that you can reduce your laptime in the same car by 36 secs only by shaving 50 kgs and with and added 50 horsepower more? I certainly don't. Oh ok they have this "magic" aero that nobody else knows about but Lambo. Right pull the other one I think.

PurpleAki

1,601 posts

88 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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Tell us exactly how they did it then, 'o wise one...

corozin

2,680 posts

272 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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I read that time with a sense of some disbelief. Why do I feel like I want to see some independant verification of this time before the voices in the back of my stop calling bullsh*t on this?

isaldiri

18,666 posts

169 months

Thursday 2nd March 2017
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stradman said:
I know you said its an enormous difference, but do you honestly believe that you can reduce your laptime in the same car by 36 secs only by shaving 50 kgs and with and added 50 horsepower more? I certainly don't. Oh ok they have this "magic" aero that nobody else knows about but Lambo. Right pull the other one I think.
To be fair, that's comparing the Sport Auto lap (albeit by a very very good amateur who's pretty much a semi pro driver) vs a factory pro driver. Even if one was generous and took a full 10s off the SA Huracan lap (already on trofeos) for a factory driver, 6:52 to 7:18 would be an absolutely enormous jump.

All due to this magical 'active aero' of course (and nevermind how the suspension etc copes) .... wink

jcl

227 posts

244 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
What ?


Is a 918 a useless road car / race car?
918 is a 100% road car isn't it? Probably the most technologically advanced road car in existence. For this Hurracan to compete with something like that it must literally be a compromised racing car.

saxy

258 posts

125 months

Friday 3rd March 2017
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stradman said:
I know you said its an enormous difference, but do you honestly believe that you can reduce your laptime in the same car by 36 secs only by shaving 50 kgs and with and added 50 horsepower more? I certainly don't. Oh ok they have this "magic" aero that nobody else knows about but Lambo. Right pull the other one I think.
the difference between an all out effort, qualifying style vs a casual fast lap but a decent amateur is 15-20seconds on the ring.