VAGs Latest cover up!

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CraigT007

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48 posts

133 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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For reasons mapped out (sorry, pun intended) on another thread, this windscreen sized poster found its way into the dealer forecourt earlier today, on what looks like a well kept, reasonably new average mileage Audi.


Car looked like this today:


Then earlier tonight, we see exclusive evidence of VAGs latest attempt at yet another cover up!


Thankfully there's the local wikileaks slueth on hand to re-expose!


Another VAG cover up exposed! :-) (see £10k gearbox thread)

(LoL, i'm so full of st) :-)

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

132 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Doesn't mention the remap, funny that,

slipstream 1985

12,220 posts

179 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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What is the issue here? If it is a massively underpriced car then sales of goods act is also there to protect the seller. eg aston martin missing a zero from an advertised price does not have to sell you a brand new car for £10,000

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Quite*.

"I remapped my car which increased the torque figure beyond the gearbox's defined limit and, to my surprise, it then st itself. I should really do some research before meddling with things I know nothing about and/or not whine like a baby if something goes wrong."

That's the footnote you missed OP.

*In reference to Northernchimp's post.

Edited by MrBarry123 on Wednesday 15th March 22:54

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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My submarine is full of eels

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

132 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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slipstream 1985 said:
What is the issue here? If it is a massively underpriced car then sales of goods act is also there to protect the seller. eg aston martin missing a zero from an advertised price does not have to sell you a brand new car for £10,000
4 year old Audi, remapped, gearbox st itself, Audi won't pay for the repair (well out of warranty), so parked car on forecourt showing estimated repair bill from Audi in some form of misguided protest, rather than taking accountability for own actions.

KungFuPanda

4,333 posts

170 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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OP, nobody is interested in your one man protest against Audi.

Anyway, they won't give a fk.

AlexRS2782

8,047 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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slipstream 1985 said:
What is the issue here?
If you're really bored you can wade through the entire story on the link below.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

However a couple of posters above have pretty much nailed the entire thread content in brief summary hehe.

MDMA .

8,895 posts

101 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Looks like quite a lot of swirl marks/marring on the bonnet. Could do with a detail. Or a plastic trim to stop the swirls in the first place.

LocoBlade

7,622 posts

256 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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MrBarry123 said:
Quite.

"I remapped my car which increased the torque figure beyond the gearbox's defined limit and, to my surprise, it then st itself. I should really do some research before meddling with things I know nothing about and/or not whine like a baby if something goes wrong."

That's the footnote you missed OP.
Might be worth doing a bit of research yourself on what fails and why wink If it was gears, shafts, clutch packs or bearings failing then yes completely agree, but the failures are due to duff circuit boards on the mechatronics (gearbox control) units inside the box which no amount of engine remapping or additional torque should cause to fail. It's a design fault/weakness which Audi know about and have largely rectified in the later edition of the same box, obviously remapping gives them an excuse to decline goodwill but an excuse is all it is, its not the reason they fail.

KungFuPanda

4,333 posts

170 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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slipstream 1985 said:
What is the issue here? If it is a massively underpriced car then sales of goods act is also there to protect the seller. eg aston martin missing a zero from an advertised price does not have to sell you a brand new car for £10,000
Whoosh.

AlexRS2782

8,047 posts

213 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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MDMA . said:
Looks like quite a lot of swirl marks/marring on the bonnet. Could do with a detail. Or a plastic trim to stop the swirls in the first place.
TBH I thought a bonnet bra was a mandatory modification in the VAG scene confused

Looks like there's even one for the OP's car hehegetmecoat


Northernchimp

1,282 posts

132 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Has anybody tried to buy it yet? I'll give him £4,000 for it it.

slipstream 1985

12,220 posts

179 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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KungFuPanda said:
slipstream 1985 said:
What is the issue here? If it is a massively underpriced car then sales of goods act is also there to protect the seller. eg aston martin missing a zero from an advertised price does not have to sell you a brand new car for £10,000
Whoosh.
Ahhh whoosh indeed, I came back to see if any replies and saw above poster have answered what the issues are.Ta.

lee_fr200

5,478 posts

190 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Why not just buy a gearbox from a breakers!

Are you rly surprised they won't repair it after it had been mapped?

The moment you do something like that you void the power train warranty

CraigT007

Original Poster:

48 posts

133 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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Oh, ouch. It's just a bit of humour guys, that's all. Nothing more.
I'll need to get that detailing looked at! I know just the fella, Thanks

ging84

8,897 posts

146 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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I Know this probably goes against the new posting rule thing i was made to agree to a couple of weeks ago

But anyone who would do this is quite clearly a grade A* total fking bell end


xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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mybrainhurts said:
My submarine is full of eels
Sorry, I had to evict them from my hovercraft.

thebraketester

14,229 posts

138 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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mybrainhurts said:
My submarine is full of eels
I will not buy this record, it is scratched.

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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LocoBlade said:
Might be worth doing a bit of research yourself on what fails and why wink If it was gears, shafts, clutch packs or bearings failing then yes completely agree, but the failures are due to duff circuit boards on the mechatronics (gearbox control) units inside the box which no amount of engine remapping or additional torque should cause to fail. It's a design fault/weakness which Audi know about and have largely rectified in the later edition of the same box, obviously remapping gives them an excuse to decline goodwill but an excuse is all it is, its not the reason they fail.
Yes, I know this is your opinion as I saw it posted multiple times on the main thread.

As you know, the mechatronic unit controls the function of the gearbox i.e. it's just a gearbox control unit. However, it is programmed to control the gearbox whilst the car is in the state of tune that it leaves the factory with. If you alter this state, you are asking the mech unit to perform its task within an environment that has unknown parameters (from its perspective). Therefore, to dismiss the suggestion that a change which quite drastically alters the operating environment of the failed component/system could have contributed to the failure of said system is something I struggle with.

Regardless, neither you nor I know for definite why this gearbox has failed however for the OP to expect support from Audi when he has altered the car far beyond the manufacturer specification is unfair on his part.

Anyway, this has been done to death on the other thread.

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