VAGs Latest cover up!
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yonex said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
indeed, its a quite pathetic attempt at naming and shaming for something that is the OPs fault not Audi's
its handy that the facts are missing from the information, i woundlt be surpised if that was not libelous
It might legally be the OP's fault, but VAG don't exactly make the most robust gearboxes. Or coil packs. Or suspension. Or pedal boxes. Or dash pods.its handy that the facts are missing from the information, i woundlt be surpised if that was not libelous
Edited by Dave Hedgehog on Thursday 16th March 06:47
other vendors are available
yonex said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
never had any problem with my vag twin clutches, 3000 hours on my R32, 2500 hours on my RS and the OH has 90k miles on her GTi
other vendors are available
Are you really saying that none of the above are known issues? other vendors are available
even if 1000s have failed its still a tiny fraction of a %
Dave Hedgehog said:
nope, just that its far rarer than people make out, how many millions of twin clutch boxes have vag fitted over the years
even if 1000s have failed its still a tiny fraction of a %
I'm sure that's just dandy if you are unlucky enough for it to happen to you. Personally outside of a warranty I wouldn't touch an RS.even if 1000s have failed its still a tiny fraction of a %
Evanivitch said:
Assuming that a mechanical change only causes a mechanical failure is quite hilarious.
Additional heat, vibration, power demands. The very fact it's the mechatronics should make it quite obvious how tightly coupled the mechanical and electrical design is.
The same happens with non remapped cars and sometimes at relatively low mileage as Guvernator can attest to, and its the "tronics" bit that fails not the "mecha"! Unless the remap is causing the gearbox to overheat and cook the PCB I fail to see how it's going to cause such a failure? Additional heat, vibration, power demands. The very fact it's the mechatronics should make it quite obvious how tightly coupled the mechanical and electrical design is.
The fact is these boxes are prone to having some fairly major issues whether the engine is remapped or not. On top of this they're bloody expensive to repair and Audi are hardly standing by their engineering by helping customers out when they fail unless they have absolutely no option.
rxe said:
Regardless of whether the guy remapped it, 2 things stand out.
1) £9700 to fix a gear box? Really?
2) Unless the remap is savage, and the driver abuses it .... these boxes must be right on the limit as standard. If they break that easily, I'd be pretty nervous about owning medium/high mileage one.
Garages don't fix things, they swap out parts and that's the prices of a new one.1) £9700 to fix a gear box? Really?
2) Unless the remap is savage, and the driver abuses it .... these boxes must be right on the limit as standard. If they break that easily, I'd be pretty nervous about owning medium/high mileage one.
If OP had gone to a gearbox specialist it may have been different.
Regardless of what actual difference the map made or what may or may not have led to the failure the fact is this..
OP bought a car, mapped it to produce more power and torque and operate outside of the the manufacturers standard parameters.
You can argue all day about the effect of the map on the 'box but it doesn't matter as Audi have this get out clause.
It's just tough s
t in this case I'm sorry to say.
OP bought a car, mapped it to produce more power and torque and operate outside of the the manufacturers standard parameters.
You can argue all day about the effect of the map on the 'box but it doesn't matter as Audi have this get out clause.
It's just tough s
t in this case I'm sorry to say.lord trumpton said:
Regardless of what actual difference the map made or what may or may not have led to the failure the fact is this..
OP bought a car, mapped it to produce more power and torque and operate outside of the the manufacturers standard parameters.
You can argue all day about the effect of the map on the 'box but it doesn't matter as Audi have this get out clause.
It's just tough st in this case I'm sorry to say.
better than that the car is out of warranty so they are under no obligation to fix anything OP bought a car, mapped it to produce more power and torque and operate outside of the the manufacturers standard parameters.
You can argue all day about the effect of the map on the 'box but it doesn't matter as Audi have this get out clause.
It's just tough s
t in this case I'm sorry to say.yonex said:
Dave Hedgehog said:
nope, just that its far rarer than people make out, how many millions of twin clutch boxes have vag fitted over the years
even if 1000s have failed its still a tiny fraction of a %
I'm sure that's just dandy if you are unlucky enough for it to happen to you. Personally outside of a warranty I wouldn't touch an RS.even if 1000s have failed its still a tiny fraction of a %
This thread is typical PH. The wholly unsympathetic 'you've had a remap and that must have killed the gearbox' witch hunt who know jack all about the story, jack all about remaps, and jack all about the intricacies of Audi gearboxes. Nevertheless, more pertinent is the fact that things went wrong shortly after the Audi dealer's gearbox oil change. Far far far too convenient to just jump on the remap bandwagon of blame.
I don't even know the OP but kudos for him for trying to be light hearted in a rather carp situation.
I don't even know the OP but kudos for him for trying to be light hearted in a rather carp situation.
Toyoda said:
I don't even know the OP but kudos for him for trying to be light hearted in a rather carp situation.
Light hearted? He is trying to embarrass Audi/the dealer into picking up a bill which in my opinion they rightly feel is not their responsibility, the car is out of warranty and has been altered by someone other than the manufacturer, the OP doesn't come out of this well, if he stated the whole truth on his sign then maybe he would get more sympathy.Dave Hedgehog said:
thebraketester said:
Sa Calobra said:
thebraketester said:
Plenty of people run above stock power and the dsg unit holds up fine.
Is that an internet guarantee?I have come across hundreds of people with remapped cars with DSG boxes an the failure rate is almost none.
But if you want to think that an engine remap WILL kill a gearbox then you keep believing. Of course you are wrong.....
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