200mph+ for less?

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ruzman

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45 posts

101 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Inspired by the 5% Pocket Exotic thread and the fact that I've just bought an SL55 - I wondered how little you need to spend to top 200mph+ in a production car?

I'm not talking about a Ford Escort with a Rover V8 running on nitrous, but a standard production car.

An SL55 can be had for about £12k, and a pint to the right man can get the 155mph limit removed, to top out at 202 or 207mph depending on who you believe (it could be argued that isn't standard anymore).

What do you need to spend to get into the 200mph+ club?

Utterly pointless, of course, unless you live in Germany.

M-SportMatt

1,923 posts

138 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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ruzman said:
Inspired by the 5% Pocket Exotic thread and the fact that I've just bought an SL55 - I wondered how little you need to spend to top 200mph+ in a production car?

I'm not talking about a Ford Escort with a Rover V8 running on nitrous, but a standard production car.

An SL55 can be had for about £12k, and a pint to the right man can get the 155mph limit removed, to top out at 202 or 207mph depending on who you believe (it could be argued that isn't standard anymore).

What do you need to spend to get into the 200mph+ club?

Utterly pointless, of course, unless you live in Germany.
I think you need to have plenty of disposable pension, be a midget and lodge yourself firmly up a local tuners bumhole to achieve the necessary power

SirSquidalot

4,042 posts

165 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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I reckon you could do it for £10k, leggy e55 amg, remap, decat and a limiter removal. Should do 200?

trickywoo

11,792 posts

230 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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There is an Alpina B5 in the classifieds now for £10,995, Quoted top speed 198 mph - fold the mirrors in and you are 200 wink

RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Fifth Gear did a feature on this a while ago, you may be able to find it online somewhere. The budget was £20k and they ended up buying a Lotus Esprit V8, which promptly had its gearbox fall apart 20 minutes after they bought it! I can't remember if they achieved 200mph or not. I should imagine it'd be a horrendously expensive thing to do though, and one of the worst enjoyment to cost ratios possible in motoring!

rohrl

8,737 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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It might be a good idea to leave some budget over for a new set of tyres before attempting the double-ton.

trickywoo

11,792 posts

230 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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RobM77 said:
I should imagine it'd be a horrendously expensive thing to do though, and one of the worst enjoyment to cost ratios possible in motoring!
Seems £12k or less will do it in the OPs SL55 but I agree on your enjoyment / cost view.

ikarl

3,730 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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E60 M5

£10k for a cat d car

brave pills needed though

popeyewhite

19,876 posts

120 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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ikarl said:
E60 M5
OP states 200 mph!

red_slr

17,234 posts

189 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Standard C6 RS6 should do it with the limiter off.
Will defo do it with remap and delimit. I have seen figures of 210+ IIRC.
I think there are a few 900+bhp cars (bigger turbos) which can push past that too.

Mammasaid

3,835 posts

97 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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SirSquidalot said:
I reckon you could do it for £10k, leggy e55 amg, remap, decat and a limiter removal. Should do 200?
Bingo

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...


RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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trickywoo said:
RobM77 said:
I should imagine it'd be a horrendously expensive thing to do though, and one of the worst enjoyment to cost ratios possible in motoring!
Seems £12k or less will do it in the OPs SL55 but I agree on your enjoyment / cost view.
That's my idea of horrendously expensive getmecoatbiggrin

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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Way over budget but bitd 2 Escort Cosworth owners got to around 200 but had to have 6-700 BHP to get there.

And do the attempts with big rear wing removed.

Alex_225

6,263 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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There's probably a fair few cars out there that could top it without you spending too much to buy it. Running it may of course be a different story haha.

I have a CLS63 and have seen a few Youtube clips of these with the limiters removed, capable of going over 190mph. So as standard that's a 510bhp engine in a large car. I suspect a re-map and limiter removal could see you tipping 200mph and you can pick an average mile example for sub £15k. That goes for a fair few AMGs with either the 5.5 super charged engine (SL/CLS/E55) or the 6.2 V8 in the 63 models.

I've no doubt this applies to some of the BMW or Audis as well although not cars I've experienced.

CraigyMc

16,409 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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RobM77 said:
Fifth Gear did a feature on this a while ago, you may be able to find it online somewhere. The budget was £20k and they ended up buying a Lotus Esprit V8, which promptly had its gearbox fall apart 20 minutes after they bought it! I can't remember if they achieved 200mph or not. I should imagine it'd be a horrendously expensive thing to do though, and one of the worst enjoyment to cost ratios possible in motoring!
They broke a gearbox, then an engine, then fitted nitrous. I think they did about 175mph.

They tried at Bruntingthorpe, which isn't exactly a big place (as in, long track) for a 200mph run.
Probably their legal team advised not televising a 200mph attempt in Germany on public roads which is more dangerous but ultimately a longer straight bit of road.

CraigyMc

16,409 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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popeyewhite said:
ikarl said:
E60 M5
OP states 200 mph!
With a delimit an E60 M5 (that's the V10 7-speed SMG one), will do approx. 205mph.

ikarl

3,730 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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popeyewhite said:
ikarl said:
E60 M5
OP states 200 mph!
Yes, I noticed. Hence why I posted the E60 M5

Proven to do 200mph with the limiter removed.

M-SportMatt

1,923 posts

138 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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lucido grigio said:
Way over budget but bitd 2 Escort Cosworth owners got to around 200 but had to have 6-700 BHP to get there.

And do the attempts with big rear wing removed.
Not sure they did?

Martin Hadland did it in the Reyland Escort 2, Angry midget did it in his saph, not sure if Andrew Gallagher managed it in his Focus

I'm not sure another Escort has done it?

CraigyMc

16,409 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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ikarl said:
popeyewhite said:
ikarl said:
E60 M5
OP states 200 mph!
Yes, I noticed. Hence why I posted the E60 M5

Proven to do 200mph with the limiter removed.
thumbupdrivinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MMnvkTNjXY

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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M-SportMatt said:
lucido grigio said:
Way over budget but bitd 2 Escort Cosworth owners got to around 200 but had to have 6-700 BHP to get there.

And do the attempts with big rear wing removed.
Not sure they did?

Martin Hadland did it in the Reyland Escort 2, Angry midget did it in his saph, not sure if Andrew Gallagher managed it in his Focus

I'm not sure another Escort has done it?
Dave Moss got to about 194 iirc.