What's the speed limit past your house, and is it a problem?
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Its a 30mph limit but many cars are doing 60 or even 70 mph past it before a narrow section with parked cars physically slows them down, we have had speed camera partnership vans those ones which flash the speed limit and a smiley face if you are doing 30 and the guy said to me that the average speed was 46mph, but imo the fact that a stickered up van was parked just up the road does slow most people down when they are there .
I cared about it more when I had small kids but not anymore.
I cared about it more when I had small kids but not anymore.
funkyrobot said:
Oddly enough, I regularly see the local camera van on the A17 and A16 in the NSL limits. I am yet to see it setup on our road though.
This was my experience as well. Residential road with many complaints about speeding - especially to people canvassing for votes. However, the visible speed enforcement is done a couple of miles away on a wide safe NSL - in a spot where overtaking is most safe.
pits said:
Blakewater said:
There are plenty of stories of people demanding the police set up speed checks on their local roads only to be caught speeding themselves when the police do as they ask. Then there are people who set up Community Speedwatch schemes only to find all the people they catch speeding are their neighbours and they're too embarrassed to have them sent letters by the police.
They set up under a railway bridge where I live, and last year we may or may not have "keybanged" (I believe that's what the kids call it these days) mates Rover V8 mid tunnel, doing about 15mph, accelerate to 25mph then mid tunnel turn it off and back on again, queue flames and backfire, the three visi vesters shat their pants 
30 outside mine, but I would say it is more the corner that is more of a struggle to deal with, it's a 90 degree bend but into town lane is wider than out of town lane.
Out of town people seem to hug the pavement, turn left, clip the kerb and then head over into the opposite lane, and people coming into town basically take the racing line, how no one has genuinely crashed there I do not know, it's not even a think of the children type affair, it's always near misses.
Blakewater said:
The back of my house overlooks a 30mph main road and a few years ago the police set up a speed check, hiding behind a wall and jumping out on people. One guy braked hard on seeing them and the guy behind ran into the back of him, so the police spent most of the day sorting out the collision that wouldn't have happened had their speed check not taken place.
Because, of course, it wasn't even remotely the fault of either the f
kwit that simply stamped on the anchors for no reason, without looking in his mirror... or the fkwit that was following far too close...TooMany2cvs said:
Blakewater said:
The back of my house overlooks a 30mph main road and a few years ago the police set up a speed check, hiding behind a wall and jumping out on people. One guy braked hard on seeing them and the guy behind ran into the back of him, so the police spent most of the day sorting out the collision that wouldn't have happened had their speed check not taken place.
Because, of course, it wasn't even remotely the fault of either the fkwit that simply stamped on the anchors for no reason, without looking in his mirror... or the fkwit that was following far too close...You get the same effect with those posts set in the carriageway to make liek a parked car. ok some traffic slows down, just by looking at them some traffic hits them, if its a motorbike they're not going to fare too well and some traffic rushes through before something comes the other way. In some places they work reasonably in others they dont.
Which is why speedwatch campaigns are very carefully sited. One in a 40 limit, everyone watching their speedo making sure they were driving smoothly without harsh braking or acceleration, when the dozy guy at the front spots the camera thinks it must be a 30, brakes hard and you have a 3 car shunt.
Suddenly what you think is something to improve safety has jumped the safety stats the wrong way.
If everyone's safely driving at a reasonable speed for the type of road, sometimes the speed limit posts will have a number lower than those speeds. Dont worry too much about it, It may be safest as it is
TooMany2cvs said:
Blakewater said:
The back of my house overlooks a 30mph main road and a few years ago the police set up a speed check, hiding behind a wall and jumping out on people. One guy braked hard on seeing them and the guy behind ran into the back of him, so the police spent most of the day sorting out the collision that wouldn't have happened had their speed check not taken place.
Because, of course, it wasn't even remotely the fault of either the fkwit that simply stamped on the anchors for no reason, without looking in his mirror... or the fkwit that was following far too close...We get complaints about people speeding on our estate now but the speed enforcement is always a camera van under the motorway bridge on the main road where the merge point at the traffic lights has been altered to force people to merge out from the inside lane before their lane ends at the footpath. People accelerate to move out and the camera van gets them.
Blakewater said:
Every collision has a number of factors, but something that encourages people to panic brake doesn't help.
It's always STICK/STICK AND MORE STICK. NEVER a carrot, or a bit of education free of charge in lieu of an invitation to the magistrates or SAC course. But then, there's a Titanic to keep afloat .it's called the white elephant of road safety = SCP.No doubt it's Captain Pingu ( ex submariner) will be along to extol it's virtue, before sliding beneath the waves, in whatever username he uses these days.
It's a problem in the village where I live which is used as a short-cut suffering fast two-way traffic especially during morning & evening rush hours & of course the blasted school run .....
So two villagers who each own an old banger have taken to parking them, not on their drives, but on opposite sides of the road almost but not quite opposite each other. This creates a pinch-point come truncated one-way system (but NOT an obstruction) which slows the pace of traffic considerably. The only downside is annoyed motorists blowing their horns in protest.
The joke is of course that it is of no matter if either of the parked cars get clobbered or if some oik bungs a brick threw a window.
Incidentally this ruse has been in use for years in the suburbs of a superior seaside town & the road is no longer the rat-ruin it once was. Residents, some of whom are mega-rich & others well known celebrities are not in the least bit bothered that their Mercedes & 4x4 Tonka Toys might get bashed.
So two villagers who each own an old banger have taken to parking them, not on their drives, but on opposite sides of the road almost but not quite opposite each other. This creates a pinch-point come truncated one-way system (but NOT an obstruction) which slows the pace of traffic considerably. The only downside is annoyed motorists blowing their horns in protest.
The joke is of course that it is of no matter if either of the parked cars get clobbered or if some oik bungs a brick threw a window.
Incidentally this ruse has been in use for years in the suburbs of a superior seaside town & the road is no longer the rat-ruin it once was. Residents, some of whom are mega-rich & others well known celebrities are not in the least bit bothered that their Mercedes & 4x4 Tonka Toys might get bashed.
WJNB said:
It's a problem in the village where I live which is used as a short-cut suffering fast two-way traffic especially during morning & evening rush hours & of course the blasted school run .....
So two villagers who each own an old banger have taken to parking them, not on their drives, but on opposite sides of the road almost but not quite opposite each other. This creates a pinch-point come truncated one-way system (but NOT an obstruction) which slows the pace of traffic considerably. The only downside is annoyed motorists blowing their horns in protest.
The joke is of course that it is of no matter if either of the parked cars get clobbered or if some oik bungs a brick threw a window.
Incidentally this ruse has been in use for years in the suburbs of a superior seaside town & the road is no longer the rat-ruin it once was. Residents, some of whom are mega-rich & others well known celebrities are not in the least bit bothered that their Mercedes & 4x4 Tonka Toys might get bashed.
Sensible plan. So two villagers who each own an old banger have taken to parking them, not on their drives, but on opposite sides of the road almost but not quite opposite each other. This creates a pinch-point come truncated one-way system (but NOT an obstruction) which slows the pace of traffic considerably. The only downside is annoyed motorists blowing their horns in protest.
The joke is of course that it is of no matter if either of the parked cars get clobbered or if some oik bungs a brick threw a window.
Incidentally this ruse has been in use for years in the suburbs of a superior seaside town & the road is no longer the rat-ruin it once was. Residents, some of whom are mega-rich & others well known celebrities are not in the least bit bothered that their Mercedes & 4x4 Tonka Toys might get bashed.
Locally we have a shortcut through residential housing. I weigh up the pros and cons of congestion on the main road v snaking around parked "chicanes" whenever traveling in that direction.
WJNB said:
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So two villagers who each own an old banger have taken to parking them, not on their drives, but on opposite sides of the road almost but not quite opposite each other.
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Some folk at the top of our street are doing the same thing (amazingly with their own cars which are not bangers).So two villagers who each own an old banger have taken to parking them, not on their drives, but on opposite sides of the road almost but not quite opposite each other.
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All well and good until a fire engine or ambulance requires access, at which point their ploy fails.
ETA: Fixed spelling.
Edited by TonyRPH on Thursday 23 March 18:51
mybrainhurts said:
30mph...
Soon to be 20mph
Which is a problem...
Yes, I'm also irked by roads with pointless 20mph limits.Soon to be 20mph
Which is a problem...
When I'm trying to cross the road, I now have to wait for the slooooow convoy of cars to pass, by which time another sloooooow convoy has usually arrived from the other side.
I never used to have much of a problem with 30mph limits
Engineer792 said:
mybrainhurts said:
30mph...
Soon to be 20mph
Which is a problem...
Yes, I'm also irked by roads with pointless 20mph limits.Soon to be 20mph
Which is a problem...
When I'm trying to cross the road, I now have to wait for the slooooow convoy of cars to pass, by which time another sloooooow convoy has usually arrived from the other side.
I never used to have much of a problem with 30mph limits
Outside the school on my estate we have a chicane with raised zebra crossings over one side of the road with a built out kerb over the other. Combine this with cars parked up to them each morning and the road is nearly blocked. As people negotiate their way around the obstacles and each other they tend to forget to watch the crossing for pedestrians.
PositronicRay said:
WJNB said:
It's a problem in the village where I live which is used as a short-cut suffering fast two-way traffic especially during morning & evening rush hours & of course the blasted school run .....
So two villagers who each own an old banger have taken to parking them, not on their drives, but on opposite sides of the road almost but not quite opposite each other. This creates a pinch-point come truncated one-way system (but NOT an obstruction) which slows the pace of traffic considerably. The only downside is annoyed motorists blowing their horns in protest.
The joke is of course that it is of no matter if either of the parked cars get clobbered or if some oik bungs a brick threw a window.
Incidentally this ruse has been in use for years in the suburbs of a superior seaside town & the road is no longer the rat-ruin it once was. Residents, some of whom are mega-rich & others well known celebrities are not in the least bit bothered that their Mercedes & 4x4 Tonka Toys might get bashed.
Sensible plan. So two villagers who each own an old banger have taken to parking them, not on their drives, but on opposite sides of the road almost but not quite opposite each other. This creates a pinch-point come truncated one-way system (but NOT an obstruction) which slows the pace of traffic considerably. The only downside is annoyed motorists blowing their horns in protest.
The joke is of course that it is of no matter if either of the parked cars get clobbered or if some oik bungs a brick threw a window.
Incidentally this ruse has been in use for years in the suburbs of a superior seaside town & the road is no longer the rat-ruin it once was. Residents, some of whom are mega-rich & others well known celebrities are not in the least bit bothered that their Mercedes & 4x4 Tonka Toys might get bashed.
Locally we have a shortcut through residential housing. I weigh up the pros and cons of congestion on the main road v snaking around parked "chicanes" whenever traveling in that direction.
Why dont they just say every road is a rat run for someone and be done with it
saaby93 said:
PositronicRay said:
WJNB said:
It's a problem in the village where I live which is used as a short-cut suffering fast two-way traffic especially during morning & evening rush hours & of course the blasted school run .....
So two villagers who each own an old banger have taken to parking them, not on their drives, but on opposite sides of the road almost but not quite opposite each other. This creates a pinch-point come truncated one-way system (but NOT an obstruction) which slows the pace of traffic considerably. The only downside is annoyed motorists blowing their horns in protest.
The joke is of course that it is of no matter if either of the parked cars get clobbered or if some oik bungs a brick threw a window.
Incidentally this ruse has been in use for years in the suburbs of a superior seaside town & the road is no longer the rat-ruin it once was. Residents, some of whom are mega-rich & others well known celebrities are not in the least bit bothered that their Mercedes & 4x4 Tonka Toys might get bashed.
Sensible plan. So two villagers who each own an old banger have taken to parking them, not on their drives, but on opposite sides of the road almost but not quite opposite each other. This creates a pinch-point come truncated one-way system (but NOT an obstruction) which slows the pace of traffic considerably. The only downside is annoyed motorists blowing their horns in protest.
The joke is of course that it is of no matter if either of the parked cars get clobbered or if some oik bungs a brick threw a window.
Incidentally this ruse has been in use for years in the suburbs of a superior seaside town & the road is no longer the rat-ruin it once was. Residents, some of whom are mega-rich & others well known celebrities are not in the least bit bothered that their Mercedes & 4x4 Tonka Toys might get bashed.
Locally we have a shortcut through residential housing. I weigh up the pros and cons of congestion on the main road v snaking around parked "chicanes" whenever traveling in that direction.
Why dont they just say every road is a rat run for someone and be done with it
So it's either cut through residential area + parked cars + school, or roundabout + shops + pedestrian crossing+ one way system. Depends on the time of day which is quicker.
I can see in the village situation if parked cars caused congestion why I may avoid it.
Mine is 20 which is fine as there is a large school at each end so twice a day there is the best part of 1000 kids on the pavement. At those times you'll be lucky to do anything more than 5mph due to the amount of traffic. At other times it's pretty much dead, I've seen people doing significantly more than 30mph.
funkyrobot said:
30mph residential main road. It is quite regularly used by absolute morons.
My suspicions that only a few drivers keep to the limit were confirmed last summer. A police chap appeared with a sign showing the speed of the vehicle. For the half hour or so he was sat there, only a few people drove past at 30mph or below. There were a lot of people leaning on the brakes that day.
We regularly have people racing each other from the set of lights at one end. Pretty much every night we'll have people overtaking as they pass our driveway. And I can guarantee that most times I drive down the road at 30mph, someone will zoom up behind me and have to slow down.
My fiancée was overtaken recently by an impatient moron as she turned right into our driveway. Luckily, she saw him in her mirror and stopped. If she hadn't, he would have ploughed into the side of her. It's a 30mph residential rode ffs.
I've spoken to our local councillor. She isn't interested and told me to speak to the police. I had a chat with a policeman last year who did a few speed checks on Sunday mornings. At the time, he told me he was very busy catching people speeding. He told me they were pressed for resource though and I need to speak to my local councillor.
There have been around three accidents in the last few years. One was a monumental smash at the traffic lights down the road. It resulted in a brand new Astra becoming separated from it's engine. There was also another one around the corner a few years ago that resulted in a Volvo being rolled.
As above, I know that perception of speed differs between people. However, we really do get a lot of people driving like absolute morons on the road. I swear some come past the house doing around 80mph at night.
Oddly enough, I regularly see the local camera van on the A17 and A16 in the NSL limits. I am yet to see it setup on our road though.
I feel like we live on the same street. Mental overtakes and at night, Bikes topping out third gear in a 30 etc. Mental cases.My suspicions that only a few drivers keep to the limit were confirmed last summer. A police chap appeared with a sign showing the speed of the vehicle. For the half hour or so he was sat there, only a few people drove past at 30mph or below. There were a lot of people leaning on the brakes that day.
We regularly have people racing each other from the set of lights at one end. Pretty much every night we'll have people overtaking as they pass our driveway. And I can guarantee that most times I drive down the road at 30mph, someone will zoom up behind me and have to slow down.
My fiancée was overtaken recently by an impatient moron as she turned right into our driveway. Luckily, she saw him in her mirror and stopped. If she hadn't, he would have ploughed into the side of her. It's a 30mph residential rode ffs.
I've spoken to our local councillor. She isn't interested and told me to speak to the police. I had a chat with a policeman last year who did a few speed checks on Sunday mornings. At the time, he told me he was very busy catching people speeding. He told me they were pressed for resource though and I need to speak to my local councillor.
There have been around three accidents in the last few years. One was a monumental smash at the traffic lights down the road. It resulted in a brand new Astra becoming separated from it's engine. There was also another one around the corner a few years ago that resulted in a Volvo being rolled.
As above, I know that perception of speed differs between people. However, we really do get a lot of people driving like absolute morons on the road. I swear some come past the house doing around 80mph at night.
Oddly enough, I regularly see the local camera van on the A17 and A16 in the NSL limits. I am yet to see it setup on our road though.
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