What's the speed limit past your house, and is it a problem?
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My new house is in a town which has a blanket 20, rather unnecessary and I'm yet to see anyone pay any attention to it - the vast majority just carry on at 30 anyway. Of course, now when they put 20 zones outside schools and hospitals where they actually should be, nobody bothers slowing down because we're all so used to silly 20 zones.
My old house was through a rural village which was a 30, this was a perfectly sensible speed, ruined by the occasional who decides to bomb through at 50mph.
My old house was through a rural village which was a 30, this was a perfectly sensible speed, ruined by the occasional who decides to bomb through at 50mph.
30mph limit on the road nearest to my home. I'd say that on the whole 90% of the traffic sticks to the limit, most others stay within ~5mph. Then there are the few that get a bit carried away and scream past at circa 50mph (most are accelerating flat through 2nd gear) before stomping on the brakes for the mini roundabout , then flat out 300 yards to the next roundabout.
The council are proposing a solution in the form of a couple of signs that display your speed At least it is preferable to speed bumps or those traffic islands that protrude from one side of the road.
The council are proposing a solution in the form of a couple of signs that display your speed At least it is preferable to speed bumps or those traffic islands that protrude from one side of the road.
We live at the end of a cul-de-sac, so not an issue. However our road feeds onto the main road that heads into the centre of the village, which is 30, but a very large percentage of people drive like utter knobs. Especially going out of the village, it's almost as if they can see the green fields ahead of them and assume that it must be OK to put their foot down, which is a really bad idea because the road one down from ours feeds onto the main road on a blind corner. '
A while back the parish council did one of those arm-OAPs-with-a-speed-gun routines and something like 60% of the traffic was exceeding 35mph. However the layout of the road means its very difficult to stick a speed van on it, or I'm sure we'd have seen one by now.
A while back the parish council did one of those arm-OAPs-with-a-speed-gun routines and something like 60% of the traffic was exceeding 35mph. However the layout of the road means its very difficult to stick a speed van on it, or I'm sure we'd have seen one by now.
sim72 said:
We live at the end of a cul-de-sac, so not an issue. However our road feeds onto the main road that heads into the centre of the village, which is 30, but a very large percentage of people drive like utter knobs. Especially going out of the village, it's almost as if they can see the green fields ahead of them and assume that it must be OK to put their foot down, which is a really bad idea because the road one down from ours feeds onto the main road on a blind corner. '
A while back the parish council did one of those arm-OAPs-with-a-speed-gun routines and something like 60% of the traffic was exceeding 35mph. However the layout of the road means its very difficult to stick a speed van on it, or I'm sure we'd have seen one by now.
Speed limit isnt going to make a difference to the blind corner. The piece of road with 60% over 35mph probably safest as a 40. Would they be willing to try it?A while back the parish council did one of those arm-OAPs-with-a-speed-gun routines and something like 60% of the traffic was exceeding 35mph. However the layout of the road means its very difficult to stick a speed van on it, or I'm sure we'd have seen one by now.
We live in the middle of nowhere, up a dirt track, you can do about 40 in a Land Rover up the track, but bits fall off normal cars if you go much above 20.
The problem is this.
Most sane people would rather there were no cars going past their house. They'd rather there were no noisy aeroplanes, no trains, and as for pubs and football stadiums, they are a real problem.
Except of course when we want to use those services. The problem is everyone else, we live here, of course we wouldn't cane it past those nice houses. Only we all do.
So the survey needs to say:
Do you support 20 past your house, on the basis that everyone who lives near a road can request a 20 as well.
Answers might be a little different...
The problem is this.
Most sane people would rather there were no cars going past their house. They'd rather there were no noisy aeroplanes, no trains, and as for pubs and football stadiums, they are a real problem.
Except of course when we want to use those services. The problem is everyone else, we live here, of course we wouldn't cane it past those nice houses. Only we all do.
So the survey needs to say:
Do you support 20 past your house, on the basis that everyone who lives near a road can request a 20 as well.
Answers might be a little different...
30 going into a fast 50. You regularly here the motorbikes and modified scoobies making the jump to lightspeed as they were pass my driveway which is about 10m after the 50 sign.
You very occasionally have close calls with overtaking traffic when pulling in and out of the drive simply because of the layout of the road.
Would changing the limit(s) do anything to remedy this? God no. A high percentage of people simply drive to the speed they deem safe, a number on a pole is not the sole deciding factor for how fast the majority of road users drive.
You very occasionally have close calls with overtaking traffic when pulling in and out of the drive simply because of the layout of the road.
Would changing the limit(s) do anything to remedy this? God no. A high percentage of people simply drive to the speed they deem safe, a number on a pole is not the sole deciding factor for how fast the majority of road users drive.
30 MPH.
I'd say 50% of people do 30. 25% do 20 and the rest do 40+. As I live here I tend to drive quietly and safely so as not to annoy anyone.
The biggest problem we have is the bus that blocks traffic and entrances to property. Taxis bombing down it late at night as it's the only road to the station without speed bumps. And this 1 kid in his modified Corsa VXR who comes down near every night and bounces of the limiter in 2nd and 3rd. Have contemplated reporting him for being antisocial but then he's just doing what I would do down the dual carriageway but down my road instead.
There's also a blind bend down the end and people regularly come round it half on the wrong side of the road and cut the corner. Sometimes it's laziness, sometimes people park on the bend.
The speed is fine. But the council need to sort out the bus. Sort out the bend to stop people parking on it.
I'd say 50% of people do 30. 25% do 20 and the rest do 40+. As I live here I tend to drive quietly and safely so as not to annoy anyone.
The biggest problem we have is the bus that blocks traffic and entrances to property. Taxis bombing down it late at night as it's the only road to the station without speed bumps. And this 1 kid in his modified Corsa VXR who comes down near every night and bounces of the limiter in 2nd and 3rd. Have contemplated reporting him for being antisocial but then he's just doing what I would do down the dual carriageway but down my road instead.
There's also a blind bend down the end and people regularly come round it half on the wrong side of the road and cut the corner. Sometimes it's laziness, sometimes people park on the bend.
The speed is fine. But the council need to sort out the bus. Sort out the bend to stop people parking on it.
30 but as said by many people I rarely see people at or below that !
Complained to the council and asked about speed bumps but was told there had not been a reportable accident so they won't do anything.
So looks like somebody has to get hurt before the council will do anything! Crazy.
Complained to the council and asked about speed bumps but was told there had not been a reportable accident so they won't do anything.
So looks like somebody has to get hurt before the council will do anything! Crazy.
30mph but i'm at the bend about 100m from the end of the cul de sac so people go pretty slow. one neighbour did used to take the bend excessively fast but after i pretended to step off the path or pull out the drive a few times as he's coming he soon learned to go slower. Most of my neighours drive past slow enough so that they can see if anyone is indoors and wave at us. That's why i'm fitting mirror film on the windows!
bobbo89 said:
We have a couple of town centres that are 20mph limits. I'm yet to see anyone observe them!
If you stick to 20mph in a 20 zone around here you'll just end up holding up the traffic. The blanket spread of some 20 zones has completely stripped them of their efficacy. Back when they were restricted to being outside of school, hospitals and pedestrianised zones, drivers actuallu took notice of them. Heartworm said:
Council has asked the builders of our estate to remove the pavement and has had them replaced with grass, the theory being that people walking on the road will act as traffic calming :@ So people pushing buggies/wheelchairs are having to use the road, terrible idea.
It does sound like a bad idea. However mixed use roads/pedestrian areas have been proven to work in the Netherlands, along with removing junction markings and traffic lights. Now being trialled in some UK city centres.I think the key is user awareness and making it clear it's mixed use, different surface, block paving, low speed limits etc, no "through" traffic.
Just nicking the pavement from a residential road isn't cricket.
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