What's the speed limit past your house, and is it a problem?
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Its 20mph past our house and yes there's a massive problem with.... it being too bloody slow!!
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Martin_Hx said:
Its 20mph past our house and yes there's a massive problem with.... it being too bloody slow!!
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Most people whether walking cycling on a horse or driving assess a relevant limit by the amount of development near the road they can see.
The first one with only houses one side, a 40 should work with most traffic going slightly under
That second one with nothing you can see ( the google camera is on a tripod on the roof) it's hard to say even a 40 would be appropriate
20
Edited by saaby93 on Monday 20th March 10:00
Heartworm said:
Council has asked the builders of our estate to remove the pavement and has had them replaced with grass, the theory being that people walking on the road will act as traffic calming :@ So people pushing buggies/wheelchairs are having to use the road, terrible idea.
Genius actually, one less asset to inspect and maintain! 30 mph on a single-track lane with passing places. Although not a dead end, doesn't really go anywhere so the principal traffic are residents. Most drive at or under the limit but there are a few who give it the beans on a straight before a blind right hander. Never been any accidents but the tyre marks up the bank on the right hander attest to some close calls.
The local town has introduced a 20 zone in one area and added painted chicanes on one of the roads in an attempt to calm traffic. In my role as an ADI I have to advise my students to observe the chicanes, however, it is quite apparent that few people know what a solid white line means and oncoming traffic just does not understand why a car is approaching on the wrong side of the road and they should give way when there is no physical obstruction to the left. As a result I instruct the student to give way and let the oncoming car proceed over the chicane at what will almost certainly be 30+mph. This then leads to further issues; following traffic doesn't understand why we've stopped when the road is clear ahead and therefore tries an overtake once the approaching vehicle has passed. Oddly though, if there isn't any oncoming traffic and we are observing the chicanes most of the following traffic will start to observe them! Anyway, the 20 limit for the most part isn't working and the chicanes are potentially dangerous; complete waste of money.
The local town has introduced a 20 zone in one area and added painted chicanes on one of the roads in an attempt to calm traffic. In my role as an ADI I have to advise my students to observe the chicanes, however, it is quite apparent that few people know what a solid white line means and oncoming traffic just does not understand why a car is approaching on the wrong side of the road and they should give way when there is no physical obstruction to the left. As a result I instruct the student to give way and let the oncoming car proceed over the chicane at what will almost certainly be 30+mph. This then leads to further issues; following traffic doesn't understand why we've stopped when the road is clear ahead and therefore tries an overtake once the approaching vehicle has passed. Oddly though, if there isn't any oncoming traffic and we are observing the chicanes most of the following traffic will start to observe them! Anyway, the 20 limit for the most part isn't working and the chicanes are potentially dangerous; complete waste of money.
We used to live on a 30mph residential road. It was impressive just how many people chose to drive well beyond the limit. Straight road with all houses having off street parking. Bikers barrelling along full chat on summers evenings were a particular favourite. Never once in the 11 years we lived there did I see any policing of the limits.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wilbury+Rd,+Le...
The house we've moved to is at the end of a cul-de-sac. Definitely an improvement to quality of life being away from road noise.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wilbury+Rd,+Le...
The house we've moved to is at the end of a cul-de-sac. Definitely an improvement to quality of life being away from road noise.
My road is a 30mph, small, residential and mostly bungalows so the speed limit is apt. Only thing is that the road is quite short and a through road between two other 30mph zones. Most people trundle along at 20ish but you obviously get the odd person who likes to straight line the curves in the road and blast it. Thankfully very rare though.
Main road outside my cul de sac is a 20 limit as there is a back entrance to a hospital on it. Emergency services rarely use said entrance and the road is wide enough to have two lanes either side. Regularly see people doing 50+.
Those cables that go across the road (speed surveys?) have been put down a good few times in the years I've lived there however nothing has ever came of them.
Those cables that go across the road (speed surveys?) have been put down a good few times in the years I've lived there however nothing has ever came of them.
30...leading into a 60mph limit, dead straight and well-sighted single track lane exactly one car length past my house. Which means you either get people accelerating hard past the house one way, or late-braking and still doing at least 50 going into the 30mph limit if they're going the other way. Fortunately it's a relatively quiet road, and most of the day just has farm traffic going up and down it.
I live on the street highlighted by the large green arrow in the image.
It was changed to a 20 limit a while back, however the vast majority still appear to exceed* 20mph.
We have young kids playing out on their push bikes, and there is also a fair amount of pedestrian traffic on a daily basis.
There are usually also quite a few cars parked along the road, making it a single lane only in parts.
The worst perpetrators for speed* appear to be women in people carriers followed closely by women in small sporty cars.
Of course the main issue is that we are situated between two main arterial roads, that being Queensway to the top and Leeds Road at the bottom, so some of the traffic is 'rat running' - however the rat running has improved since the chicanes were removed from Queensway (still a 30mph).
It was changed to a 20 limit a while back, however the vast majority still appear to exceed* 20mph.
We have young kids playing out on their push bikes, and there is also a fair amount of pedestrian traffic on a daily basis.
There are usually also quite a few cars parked along the road, making it a single lane only in parts.
The worst perpetrators for speed* appear to be women in people carriers followed closely by women in small sporty cars.
Of course the main issue is that we are situated between two main arterial roads, that being Queensway to the top and Leeds Road at the bottom, so some of the traffic is 'rat running' - however the rat running has improved since the chicanes were removed from Queensway (still a 30mph).
- speed - any judgement of speed is subjective as without measuring actual speed it's not known if they are exceeding the limit, however based on the average pace of vehicular traffic it is possible to make a fairly good judgement call I think.
30mph along our road but as it is a long straight road with only houses on one side, the velocity at which cars traverse it varies from 20 - 120mph.
It's obviously a 30 if you note the streetlights and wotnot but people mistaking it for a 40 isn't the crime of the century.
However, I have phoned plod on occasion and reported a few WOT/accelerate like mad clowns...
...and yes, I am thinking of the children (well, mine).
It's obviously a 30 if you note the streetlights and wotnot but people mistaking it for a 40 isn't the crime of the century.
However, I have phoned plod on occasion and reported a few WOT/accelerate like mad clowns...
...and yes, I am thinking of the children (well, mine).
Blakewater said:
According to the 20's Plenty For Us website, 80% of the public and 75% of drivers support 20mph limits.
http://www.20splentyforus.org.uk/rationale_for_20_...
According to a Hammersmith and Fulham Council survey it's 71% of people in their borough.
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/articles/news/2015/11/stag...
Of course, these figures are only a percentage of the people who've bothered to take part in the survey, which introduces a certain amount of bias as people may have been keen to sway the figures in their favour by completing the surveys and others may have been too cynical to think bothering to complete the survey would make any difference to the council's actions.
We all know speed limit reductions can come about as a result of a few people starting petitions and pressuring local authorities, groups that may be vocal even though they may not represent the majority of people affected by what they're concerned about. An increasing number of homes are within 20mph limits and zones.
This has led me to ask the question. What's the speed limit past your house and do you think it's a problem to you and your neighbours?
Is it too high? Too low? Would you like to see it changed and, if so, increased or decreased?
20mph limits have their places, schools, hospitals and elderly care homes come to mind, small housing estates perhaps, but main roads through residential areas are fine at 30, the issue is that now in alot of towns very few people stick to 30, with certain groups going considerably faster. http://www.20splentyforus.org.uk/rationale_for_20_...
According to a Hammersmith and Fulham Council survey it's 71% of people in their borough.
https://www.lbhf.gov.uk/articles/news/2015/11/stag...
Of course, these figures are only a percentage of the people who've bothered to take part in the survey, which introduces a certain amount of bias as people may have been keen to sway the figures in their favour by completing the surveys and others may have been too cynical to think bothering to complete the survey would make any difference to the council's actions.
We all know speed limit reductions can come about as a result of a few people starting petitions and pressuring local authorities, groups that may be vocal even though they may not represent the majority of people affected by what they're concerned about. An increasing number of homes are within 20mph limits and zones.
This has led me to ask the question. What's the speed limit past your house and do you think it's a problem to you and your neighbours?
Is it too high? Too low? Would you like to see it changed and, if so, increased or decreased?
The annoying thing for me is that all speed enforcement concentrates on motorways, I'd much rather see average speed cameras through towns & villages than SPECS/HADECS cameras on the M1/M62, I'd bet this would also have a dramatic effect on road safety and deaths than motorway enforcement, although I appreciate it probably wouldn't have the financial returns that motorway cameras do!!!
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