Mispronunciation of car make/model

Mispronunciation of car make/model

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Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

105 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Roger Irrelevant said:
Disastrous said:
Roger Irrelevant said:
Winston Churchill said:
It is the inalienable right of every Englishman to pronounce foreign words exactly as he pleases
...and I'm happy to go with that. After all if I'm visiting the largest city in Scotland I don't say that I'm off to 'Glazzgee'.
Literally nobody calls it that EXCEPT English people, though.

The local colloquialism would have it as more like "Glesga" and it's a mystery to everyone North of the border where this "Glazzgee" that the Neglish say comes from. It sounds like Groundskeeper Willie.
I stand corrected, thanks for the lesson. It's academic anyway as I have no intention of going anywhere near the place. Embra's lovely though.

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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tannhauser said:
Sid123 said:
poing said:
tannhauser said:
Sunnysider said:
I'd feel like a right knobhead if I referred to either my 911 or Boxster as a Porscha.

My cars, I'll call them what I want.
Worst "I have two Porsches" post ever.

It is Porscha btw.
Why is it? Why do you feel the need to pronounce that brand in the native way but not all the others?

I say Porsh for the same reason I say VolksWagen not VolksVagen, I use my own native language to match the spelling as close as is reasonable.
I couldn't agree more. I think the majority of people speaking english would say Porsh and not Porsha.

If I speak english I say Lanseeya and if I speak italian I say Lancha (and would never dream of saying Lanseeya) because that's how it's generally said in english.
There's no need to try to say Ferrari or Maserati (or Lancia) like an italian if you're speaking english as it just makes you look like a pretentious tt who likely has no language skills at all.....
Because it's a brand and there's no hardship in pronouncing Porsche correctly! Just like you sound like a thicko if you ask for "jalapenos" in a sandwich shop...
So is VW not a brand now? Nissan, is that not a brand?
American English is closer to the correct word for Nissan than British English, although that bothers me since it's a nation that can't pronounce the name Colin correctly and don't get me started on Nokia!

What actually happens is we can pick and choose how we say things, there is only 1 correct way but that doesn't always seem natural to us so we say it as it's written in our own language. For the same reason I don't pronounce the E on the end of Nike.

As VlaD says, we do have some words that we pronounce a particular way which fits with the original word but that doesn't make alternatives wrong, it just makes them regional.

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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poing said:
and don't get me started on Nokia!.
Please enlighten me as to your pronounciation of Nokia

poing

8,743 posts

200 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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craigjm said:
poing said:
and don't get me started on Nokia!.
Please enlighten me as to your pronounciation of Nokia
The same way as most UK English people I imagine.

The American version suggests they've lost a Korean car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA9Qfgw0PGQ

This guys covers all three options.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ4iwz8Vnp4&sp...

Pan Pan Pan

9,902 posts

111 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Rovinghawk said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
To me if it has an E on the end it should be scones as in motorway cones... or should it be cons???? smile
How do you pronounce 'gone'?

Good point! I will think of that when I am negotiating some motorway cons

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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poing said:
craigjm said:
poing said:
and don't get me started on Nokia!.
Please enlighten me as to your pronounciation of Nokia
The same way as most UK English people I imagine.

The American version suggests they've lost a Korean car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA9Qfgw0PGQ

This guys covers all three options.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ4iwz8Vnp4&sp...
And the Americans would be right pretty much. It is pronounced no-kee-ya. A lot of people don't realise it but Nokia is actaully a town in Finland. I know how it is spoken because I have spent the last 7 months helping set up the new company that is selling Nokia branded phones.

Rat_Fink_67

2,309 posts

206 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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vsonix said:
I used to live in the USA and am fairly certain they pronounce it cam-are-o over there.
In fact I remember a TV ad jingle that went something like 'Camaro Summer!/Saturday Night/AAH!' and it was defo 'cam are oh'
No it's 100% Cam-air-o.

DoddsyFrs

89 posts

196 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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My Dad calls the Seat Ibiza , Ibeeza

Pan Pan Pan

9,902 posts

111 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Section 8 said:
I know it's petty but it makes my teeth itch when watching a car show and the presenter insists on saying the car name wrong! Example last nights Top Gear. Yeah i know he's a yank but ffs Le Blanc you are in the UK now it's Fiat ( fee-ut) not ( fay-yaght). His pronunciation of Abarth was way off too.

Mike Brewer made me want to slap his chubby face in when he droned on about a Camaro( cam-aero) calling it a (cam-are-o) over and over again. Cock!!

Clarkson just grips my st though with Volkswagen( volks-wagon) calling it (vowks-vagen). And a Cobra (co-bra) a (cob-ra).

Am i the only person that is bothered by this?? Dear God please say i'm not .I know i have issues but come on, they just sound wrong!

I remember when he was buying a car from a punter Brewer saying, `The bloke wanted four grand for it, but I got it for free'

Disastrous

10,083 posts

217 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Roger Irrelevant said:
Disastrous said:
Roger Irrelevant said:
Winston Churchill said:
It is the inalienable right of every Englishman to pronounce foreign words exactly as he pleases
...and I'm happy to go with that. After all if I'm visiting the largest city in Scotland I don't say that I'm off to 'Glazzgee'.
Literally nobody calls it that EXCEPT English people, though.

The local colloquialism would have it as more like "Glesga" and it's a mystery to everyone North of the border where this "Glazzgee" that the Neglish say comes from. It sounds like Groundskeeper Willie.
I stand corrected, thanks for the lesson. It's academic anyway as I have no intention of going anywhere near the place. Embra's lovely though.
I had a choice of which to move to and much preferred Glasgow funnily enough.

As the saying goes, "you have mair fun at a glesga stabbing than an Edinburgh wedding".

My old man is from Edinburgh though and he quite likes it.

donkmeister

8,164 posts

100 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk1fjKd87WM

I've been saying this one all wrong.

I would like to retract my earlier disdain - I've just had a mental image of a Frenchman or Spaniard switching into a heavily-affected English accent halfway through a sentence to say "Rover 75" or "Bentley Continental". It would sound bizarre to me, it would sound bizarre to their French or Spanish peers.

So I would like to change my view to "don't really care".

But only so long as they don't pronounce "Ford Ka" as "Ford Kay-Aye". I've literally never heard that (and now never read it) without the word "actually" before or after.

fivepointnine

708 posts

114 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY-5dn3t4xM

I will just leave this one here...I have never heard anybody in the UK pronounce it correctly.

fivepointnine

708 posts

114 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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MTech535 said:
Where the Americans go wrong I'd pronouncing a as ar.

Nissan = nee san = nee sarn in American
FIAT = fee at = fee art in American.
I grew up in the US and I have never pronounced though like that unless they are from the DEEP south. 99% of the country pronounces it like your first descriptions (nee-san, fee-at).

V8A*ndy

3,695 posts

191 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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One of most hilarious nights working in the pub in Belfast was a local pissed up Taxi driver telling us all about his brand new Taxi.

Infact everyone that night had to hear about his "shemashmong rodus"


I have no idea how it's pronounced either but he wasn't getting close that night.


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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fivepointnine said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY-5dn3t4xM

I will just leave this one here...I have never heard anybody in the UK pronounce it correctly.
That's how the US importers claim the Koreans pronounce it. The UK importers clearly disagree.

Have we got any native speakers of Korean in the house?

fivepointnine

708 posts

114 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
That's how the US importers claim the Koreans pronounce it. The UK importers clearly disagree.

Have we got any native speakers of Korean in the house?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0UovyM8Ni0

I think it is a mix of the UK and US pronunciations lol.

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

187 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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I like the American "Jag-oo-arr".

VladD

7,855 posts

265 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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forzaminardi said:
I like the American "Jag-oo-arr".
Isn't that Cornwall?

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

163 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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I thought and heard it was Jag Warr from Americans.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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where does the animal, the jaguar, come from? it's not Coventry, is it