RE: NIO EP9 at the 'ring: Time for Coffee
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Just goes to show that speed isn't everything....
Althoug I'm not a fan of the willy-waggling about who is fastest around 14-odd mile of prime German road/track, I never thought I'd hear myself say that I would indeed actually prefer to watch the latest Nissan GTR or its ilk thundering around there. In fact I'd rather watch the now-unemployed Ed China attempt a lap in his motorised garden shed to set a record.
I can't wait to hear what James May has to say about it on the next series of The Grand Tour either.
To be fair the whole video sounded like our Dyson when my son accidental hoovered up the school hamster.....
Althoug I'm not a fan of the willy-waggling about who is fastest around 14-odd mile of prime German road/track, I never thought I'd hear myself say that I would indeed actually prefer to watch the latest Nissan GTR or its ilk thundering around there. In fact I'd rather watch the now-unemployed Ed China attempt a lap in his motorised garden shed to set a record.
I can't wait to hear what James May has to say about it on the next series of The Grand Tour either.
To be fair the whole video sounded like our Dyson when my son accidental hoovered up the school hamster.....
Mr Gearchange said:
4,671lb/ft? 
Yes, but only at the absolute bottom of the RPM range, which is what all electric motors do. As the RPM increases the torque rapidly reduces.I fast forwarded through much of the film, but it seemed to be running out of puff towards the end of the straight.
Strange there's no speedo on the video - you'd think they'd want to advertise the tremendous straight line speed. By way of perspective if it was on slicks (which I think can be assumed) is that it's only 2 seconds faster than a Porsche 997 GT3 Cup racecar, which has around 900bhp less grunt.
As a final note, come on PH and tell the world that it was designed and built by RML in Wellingborough here in the UK! You must know this, surely?
TheDrBrian said:
Mr Gearchange said:
4,671lb/ft?
One of those stupid factoids that sounds dead impressive until you work out an average family car can put out 1000lb/ft in certain circumstances.howardhughes said:
I couldn't give a flying f
k if this thing did the 'ring' in one minute, never mind 7.
It sounds like a hair dryer. Electric cars are FAKE and soulless.
Most Pistonheads stereotypes in three sentences I've ever seen. Impressive.k if this thing did the 'ring' in one minute, never mind 7.It sounds like a hair dryer. Electric cars are FAKE and soulless.
Edited by RacerMike on Thursday 23 March 11:29
Guvernator said:
Surprised by the lack of sound, wasn't this the car that sounded like a fighter jet when they initially started showing vids of it or was that just a soundtrack dubbed on later?
If so that's rubbish, surely car manufacturers have to realise that for petrolheads, one of the big things missing from EV's is aural drama and something about it?
The fighter jet noise is real, but it comes from the tyres, not the motorsIf so that's rubbish, surely car manufacturers have to realise that for petrolheads, one of the big things missing from EV's is aural drama and something about it?
georgefs said:
Guvernator said:
Surprised by the lack of sound, wasn't this the car that sounded like a fighter jet when they initially started showing vids of it or was that just a soundtrack dubbed on later?
If so that's rubbish, surely car manufacturers have to realise that for petrolheads, one of the big things missing from EV's is aural drama and something about it?
The fighter jet noise is real, but it comes from the tyres, not the motorsIf so that's rubbish, surely car manufacturers have to realise that for petrolheads, one of the big things missing from EV's is aural drama and something about it?
Regiment said:
Why is it so slow when it has so much power, is it a weight issue?
Weight doesn't affect top speed 
The biggest issue with EVs is the rejection of heat from the motors and battery. When running flat chat on a race track, it's very difficult to keep everything cool enough to deliver full power. Tesla's in particular are bad for this. 1 or 2 full bore launches and you'll be down to about 75% of your total power.
Krikkit said:
Almost looks too stiff for the Nurburgring - very twitchy on the bumpy bits and he hardly touches a kerb. Bet they'd shave quite a few seconds off with a softer setup.
It has monster aero, the diffuser (if you can call it that) is hoooge and runs under most of the length of the car, it wouldn't be possible with an IC car. Despite being heavy the cornering forces it can generate are almost LMP level. I doubt it would 'work' with a softer setup.
As for all of the anti-EV stuff, Pistonheads has always been a home for it but f
k me the quality of ludditery on here has gone downhill recently.The Wookie said:
It has monster aero, the diffuser (if you can call it that) is hoooge and runs under most of the length of the car, it wouldn't be possible with an IC car.
Despite being heavy the cornering forces it can generate are almost LMP level. I doubt it would 'work' with a softer setup.
As for all of the anti-EV stuff, Pistonheads has always been a home for it but fk me the quality of ludditery on here has gone downhill recently.
You better let am/red bull know the aero isn't going to work on the valkrie. See mclaren for adaptive damping. Ludditery? Nope. EVs are the future, doesn't mean all EVs are beyond critical discussion. How many laps can this thing do? Despite being heavy the cornering forces it can generate are almost LMP level. I doubt it would 'work' with a softer setup.
As for all of the anti-EV stuff, Pistonheads has always been a home for it but f
k me the quality of ludditery on here has gone downhill recently.fblm said:
You better let am/red bull know the aero isn't going to work on the valkrie. See mclaren for adaptive damping. Ludditery? Nope. EVs are the future, doesn't mean all EVs are beyond critical discussion. How many laps can this thing do?
I don't even know what sort of suspension the Valkyrie will have! ETA Oh you meant the aero itself rather than the suspension being stiff? I was referring to the diffuser itself being impossible with IC rather than the amount of downforce the car can generateI'm not saying EV's are beyond criticism I'm just saying that some of the 'anti' comments are spectacularly crap. Back when this were all fields we had a decent quality of Luddite with some valid and insightful reasons why they hated EV's
Edited by The Wookie on Thursday 23 March 20:45
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