Average Speed Cameras Popped Up M4 London / A4

[supercommuter]

I have noticed over the last couple of weeks the 60mph to 40mph zone coming into London on the M4 has had a number of average speed cameras put up. I assumed there were some roadworks coming. But oddly there have been no signs to accompany them - 'Speed Camera Not In Use' etc.

I didn't think they were active as there only appeared to be one camera in the 40mph zone. But this morning i noticed hidden on the other westbound carriageway gantry there is a small yellow camera that has appeared pointing onto the eastbound carriageway whilst in the 40mph zone.

Does anybody know if these are active. As like many motorists I am generally significantly exceeding the speed limit when leaving London in the evening (although I wont be anymore) to join the M4. I was last night and I was this morning.

Do I have some tickets in the post?

[supercommuter]

Anybody?

Please can you move this to speed plod and law Admin

[supermono]

I see a few being set up on the A3 too as it comes past Esher where the one speed camera is, just into the 50mph zone.

[Dave Finney]

There are AS cameras on the A40 (above the M4) and end of M3 (below the M4), but not aware of any on M4.

Maybe there will be road works?

[mannyo]

There are long term roadworks about to start on the M4, converting it to smart motorway.

http://roads.highways.gov.uk/projects/m4-junctions...

[supercommuter]

mannyo said:

There are long term roadworks about to start on the M4, converting it to smart motorway.

http://roads.highways.gov.uk/projects/m4-junctions...

guess that is the end of my 1hr 50 minute commute from Bristol to London

[xjay1337]

supercommuter said:

guess that is the end of my 1hr 50 minute commute from Bristol to London

It is awful bud, isn't it.

I'm glad I don't need to commute any more. I miss it, but with these Roadworks....

I would be half tempted to have a remote flip up plate fitted. Proper council I know.

[supercommuter]

xjay1337 said:

supercommuter said:

guess that is the end of my 1hr 50 minute commute from Bristol to London

It is awful bud, isn't it.

I'm glad I don't need to commute any more. I miss it, but with these Roadworks....

I would be half tempted to have a remote flip up plate fitted. Proper council I know.

The cameras are super sneaky. There is one big one like normal size where it turns into a 40. Then they are small AS mounted on the Gantries in the 40mph zone all the way into the a4. They are going to coin some serious revenue off of those as people will think the end of the cameras are the last big one.

Although I am still to meet someone who has ever been done by an average speed camera!

ETA: Remote flip up plate is a one way ticket to jail mate. Perverting the course of justice. Better to have no plate!

[Davidonly]

mannyo said:

There are long term roadworks about to start on the M4, converting it to smart motorway.

http://roads.highways.gov.uk/projects/m4-junctions...

Biggest roll out of speedcameras ever/ anywhere in the world.

Once SMART (actually totally dumb and v dangerous with hard shoulder running) is done nationally and the NSL is gantry enforced 24/7, the gaps between those dreadful parts of the network will get average speedcams between every junction........ probably followed by a 60mph NSL on DC / controlled access roads.

Why to UK citizens need so much more monitoring than other populations?

[supermono]

It's just that there are enough useful idiots to support the roll out of these things that they can get away with it.

[Dave Finney]

mannyo said:

There are long term roadworks about to start on the M4, converting it to smart motorway.

http://roads.highways.gov.uk/projects/m4-junctions...

Can we confirm exactly where these AS cameras are?

The OP says "the 60mph to 40mph zone coming into London on the M4"

but the Shmart Mway link says "M4 junctions 3-12"

Those are different locations.

[7db]

I saw a pair near Heston the other night.

[supercommuter]

Dave Finney said:

mannyo said:

There are long term roadworks about to start on the M4, converting it to smart motorway.

http://roads.highways.gov.uk/projects/m4-junctions...

Can we confirm exactly where these AS cameras are?

The OP says "the 60mph to 40mph zone coming into London on the M4"

but the Shmart Mway link says "M4 junctions 3-12"

Those are different locations.

The last of them are on this gantry now where the cut out bit is. Two pointing east and two pointing west. Very Sneaky

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4900231,-0.27877...

[Engineer792]

7db said:

I saw a pair near Heston the other night.

If you didn't whisper then you wouldn't need to repeat yourself

[Engineer792]

Just yesterday it was reported that several much-needed road schemes are to be axed due to budget cuts, yet they press on with this sort of nonsense.

[Dave Finney]

supercommuter said:

Dave Finney said:

mannyo said:

There are long term roadworks about to start on the M4, converting it to smart motorway.

http://roads.highways.gov.uk/projects/m4-junctions...

Can we confirm exactly where these AS cameras are?

The OP says "the 60mph to 40mph zone coming into London on the M4"

but the Shmart Mway link says "M4 junctions 3-12"

Those are different locations.

The last of them are on this gantry now where the cut out bit is. Two pointing east and two pointing west. Very Sneaky

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4900231,-0.27877...

That's right at the end of the M4 and I can't find mention on TfL of AS cameras there
It's also not where Smart Mway is to be.

Are we sure these really are AS cameras?
Are they yellow, are there more further along in the 40mph, how far into London?

[7db]

The ones I saw were SPECS, different from the Siemens cameras on A40 and A406

[ashleyman]

Davidonly said:

Biggest roll out of speedcameras ever/ anywhere in the world.

Once SMART (actually totally dumb and v dangerous with hard shoulder running) is done nationally and the NSL is gantry enforced 24/7, the gaps between those dreadful parts of the network will get average speedcams between every junction........ probably followed by a 60mph NSL on DC / controlled access roads.

Why to UK citizens need so much more monitoring than other populations?

It's to force people to use the 'much faster' railways.

[Usget]

Davidonly said:

Once SMART (actually totally dumb and v dangerous with hard shoulder running) is done nationally and the NSL is gantry enforced 24/7, the gaps between those dreadful parts of the network will get average speedcams between every junction........ probably followed by a 60mph NSL on DC / controlled access roads.

Yep, this.

So in order to ease congestion they're going to do roadworks on yet another artery into London until 2022?!?

I don't think I've ever encountered a jam on the M4 except inside the M25 and then only at peak time heading into London. But I assume I'm about to make up for lost time.

[AlexRS2782]

Usget said:

So in order to ease congestion they're going to do roadworks on yet another artery into London until 2022?!?

Based on the consistent delays and overrun of the current M3 works I would say 2025/6 is far more likely for the M4