Halford BS MOT

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Evanivitch

20,066 posts

122 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Combustion29 said:
The mot has just run out. The main issue is that i don't see why i should pay for their lakc of tools. I was hoping if i just make enough of a fuss, they will reduce the charge. I don't really have time to find a slot at another garage.
Alfa Romeo 147/156/GT love chewing through wishbone bushes but everyone supplies and replaces the complete unit.

The reality is they will probably charge you 30-60 mins for changing the bush, and they'll probably do a crap job on it. Might as well do the whole wishbone.

Vaud

50,450 posts

155 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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bigdom said:
Having taken my car in for an MOT yesterday, not Halfords. I think they're all on the take.

Evidently my rear discs/pads are worn, and the front disc have slight lipping...They put both down as an advisory and mentioned it would be dangerous to continue to drive it rolleyes

The onboard system states the rear pads have 24k left, the fronts 60k. Think I'll drop it into BMW next year.
Try a council run MOT station.

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Mr Snrub said:
Are you sure? I've never heard of a wiper arm needing to be changed unless it was damaged
Someone was misquoted methinks, a wiper would be a whole unit obv not the arm itself.

I wouldn't call it a BS MOT

Wiper blade may well need replacing, if your headlight doesn't line up it will need adjusting, why should they do it for free? As for the bush, they have to take the suspension arm apart to replace it, rightly it is quicker and easier to replace the arm, it'll take them about 10 mins compared to maybe an hour of fking about taking components apart to replace the bush


Edited by Nickyboy on Wednesday 22 March 22:18

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Vaud said:
Try a council run MOT station.
Or, ime, don't.

The one time I took that sage piece of advice, I was made monumentally unwelcome - it was very clear that the only reason they accepted my booking was they had zero choice. I was then given the single most anal test ever. I took that fail sheet, smiled, and immediately took the car to somewhere else - where it passed without a single advisory. They achieved their aim - I never wasted their precious time by going there again...

aka_kerrly

12,418 posts

210 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Combustion29 said:
I'm literally quoting them on the tool issue. They said they used to order just the bush. I checked you can order it on its own. The whole arm is £70.

Yeh the wiper blade is fine. They want to change the entire arm. The wiper is fine, this been raining loads lately, it clears the windscreen.

My old garage would have just adjusted the light for free. What are the actually charging me £15 for?

Edited by Combustion29 on Wednesday 22 March 20:56
Since the arm will need to be removed to replace one bush it is often considered sensible to replace the whole arm complete with all other bushes!

Speaking from experience I have wasted too much time in the past removing an arm, removing the old bush, getting the new bush pressed in and refitting rather than ordering the whole part and simply swapping it over - if you are paying garage labour a straight swap could be cheaper than paying someone the labour to piss about trying to remove a stubbon bush.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
The one time I took that sage piece of advice, I was made monumentally unwelcome...
That doesn't surprise me in the least.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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280E said:
TooMany2cvs said:
The one time I took that sage piece of advice, I was made monumentally unwelcome...
That doesn't surprise me in the least.

SebringMan

1,773 posts

186 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Combustion29 said:
Hi all,

I just had my mot done at a halfords autocentre ( not my first choice but was in a bind). Anyway it failed on three trivial things; rubber suspension bush worn, headlight at wrong angle and windscreen wiper not adequately clearing Window.

They want to replace the whole suspension arm rather than just the bush as they don't have the right tool to compress the springs or something. They are charging me £15 for 'fixing ' the light and also want to replace the whole wiper . This will now be hundreds which is a joke for what should be a bush and a wiper blade. They are taking the piss but what can i do?
Which car do you have?

My take?

-The headlight adjustment is taking the piss. My tester does that for me as well as throwing in the odd bulb for free but he did used to charge £45 an MOT before I knew him. That said it was better than the anal tester before and he speaks alot of sense; a few PHers use him as well.

-The arm's bush being can be a pain to remove in a number of cases. In many instances pattern bushes are rubbish as well. By the time they have faffed about with the bush it would have cost a good chunk of garage labour.

-When you say the whole wiper do you mean the arm or the blade? If the former and it is clearly not bent I'd do a runner!

bigdom said:
Having taken my car in for an MOT yesterday, not Halfords. I think they're all on the take.

Evidently my rear discs/pads are worn, and the front disc have slight lipping...They put both down as an advisory and mentioned it would be dangerous to continue to drive it rolleyes

The onboard system states the rear pads have 24k left, the fronts 60k. Think I'll drop it into BMW next year.
I reckon you must a be a troll :P. 60k on front pads? Unless you never brake I'd like to see that.

Evanivitch said:
Alfa Romeo 147/156/GT love chewing through wishbone bushes but everyone supplies and replaces the complete unit.

The reality is they will probably charge you 30-60 mins for changing the bush, and they'll probably do a crap job on it. Might as well do the whole wishbone.
Not everyone. Autolusso think all of the bushes bar genuine or TRW actually last. I can vouch for that. They polybush them which outlives almsot any other arm ; I once had a Lemforder arm become an advisory within a year on my 147.


kev b

2,715 posts

166 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Our E60 front pads lasted 75K miles, there is a thread on here about this subject.

leefee

633 posts

129 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
280E said:
TooMany2cvs said:
The one time I took that sage piece of advice, I was made monumentally unwelcome...
That doesn't surprise me in the least.
I like that. smile. Very good. smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Can you have it tested elsewhere & report them to the 'authorities ' if it passes?

Burnzyb

300 posts

177 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Does said failed arm also have a ball joint or other bushes on it, if it does I find it not cost effective to change just a bush if others could fail, esp if you can't do the work yourself or if there is a ball joint built into the arm.

As many others have said it's sometimes cheaper in the long run to replace whole arm and fit and forget.

Combustion29

Original Poster:

111 posts

89 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Combustion29 said:
Only reason i went to halfords was due to another garage delaying the not by a week the evening before the test.
You know you have a month before the expiry to retest it and retain the same expiry date, right...?
My booked mot fell through the night before. The mot then had 1 day left so needed to find a new garage quickly

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Combustion29 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Combustion29 said:
Only reason i went to halfords was due to another garage delaying the not by a week the evening before the test.
You know you have a month before the expiry to retest it and retain the same expiry date, right...?
My booked mot fell through the night before. The mot then had 1 day left so needed to find a new garage quickly
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Edwin Strohacker

3,879 posts

86 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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SystemParanoia said:
not leave your car with them for a start.

you can drive your car home from an MOT test legally, whether its passed or not.
Only if the previous MoT is still in force can you. Otherwise you're breaking the law.

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Rich_W said:
60K on front pads laughrolleyes
Totally possible, managed 70k on my first set of front pads in the old astra, all disc's and rear pads still original at 100k miles smile

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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Combustion29 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Combustion29 said:
Only reason i went to halfords was due to another garage delaying the not by a week the evening before the test.
You know you have a month before the expiry to retest it and retain the same expiry date, right...?
My booked mot fell through the night before. The mot then had 1 day left so needed to find a new garage quickly
And the previous four weeks?

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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I remember the days of being told at MOTs; "Your floor is rotted through and needs extensive welding".

To be told 70 quid for an arm, 30 quid for a headlight alignment and a wiper blade. I'd consider that as getting off very lightly indeed.

Sycamore

1,771 posts

118 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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I had my Fiesta's first year service done at Halfords.
It was cheap and a lease car, and the "service centre" was a few minutes walk from my work so it made sense.

I was 19 and went in at 8am before with my shirt/tie on looking like a tt, so I assume they thought they could take the mick and rip me off.

They tried saying that the brake pads are "almost non existent" and the tires were "well below the legal limit".

They were well pissed off when I told them the car had only done 6.5k miles, and I showed up to collect the car with a depth micrometer hehe

Limpet

6,309 posts

161 months

Thursday 23rd March 2017
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aka_kerrly said:
Since the arm will need to be removed to replace one bush it is often considered sensible to replace the whole arm complete with all other bushes!

Speaking from experience I have wasted too much time in the past removing an arm, removing the old bush, getting the new bush pressed in and refitting rather than ordering the whole part and simply swapping it over - if you are paying garage labour a straight swap could be cheaper than paying someone the labour to piss about trying to remove a stubbon bush.
Agree with this.

There are usually at least two bushes in the arm, and if one has failed, the other won't be far behind. Chances are the balljoint is also past its best. With that, and the labour / fiddling to get the bush swapped out, it is easier, quicker and often cheaper to just swap the whole lot out. A better repair as well, as you get a complete new set of components.