Which "classic" hot hatch would you most like to own?

Which "classic" hot hatch would you most like to own?

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Hugh Jarse

3,486 posts

204 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Fastchas said:
This. Maybe the best-mannered car I've ever owned. Had 3 CRX's, one a V-tec. Quality of build would beat any other hatch on the road, and the NA engine in mine was 164BHP unfettled.
There was deep lust from me as an 18 year old.
Around the same time i was also lusting after 600cc Jap fours motorcycles which seemed equally perfect.
Though i appreciate its more 2+2 coupe than hatch and lacks family practicality.
Financial means did not match aspirations however - I cruised around on a Honda H100 (which I loved btw).

rallycross

12,742 posts

236 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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Meridius said:
Has it really taken this long?
These cars have nothing to do with hot hatches, Metro 6R4, Delta S4, 205 T16 are rally homologation specials, totally different breed to the hot hatch. Take a step back and you have Delta HF turbo (fwd), Metro 1.3 turbo, 205 1.6/1.9 Gti, these are hot hatches.
At least try and keep on track with the OP.

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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rallycross said:
Meridius said:
Has it really taken this long?
These cars have nothing to do with hot hatches, Metro 6R4, Delta S4, 205 T16 are rally homologation specials, totally different breed to the hot hatch. Take a step back and you have Delta HF turbo (fwd), Metro 1.3 turbo, 205 1.6/1.9 Gti, these are hot hatches.
At least try and keep on track with the OP.
The OP which asked which we'd most like to own? (as opposed to the silly "this one's best, no this one is" rubbish the thread has descended into.)

FiF

43,960 posts

250 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Pothole said:
rallycross said:
Meridius said:
Has it really taken this long?
These cars have nothing to do with hot hatches, Metro 6R4, Delta S4, 205 T16 are rally homologation specials, totally different breed to the hot hatch. Take a step back and you have Delta HF turbo (fwd), Metro 1.3 turbo, 205 1.6/1.9 Gti, these are hot hatches.
At least try and keep on track with the OP.
The OP which asked which we'd most like to own? (as opposed to the silly "this one's best, no this one is" rubbish the thread has descended into.)
Correct, those who are sticking on topic seem to be roughly split between those, like me, who would like a second bite at a car from their past, warts and all, and those who would like something iconic that they've never driven or owned. Not sure which of those is correct.

Carlson W6

857 posts

123 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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I owned-

1. Metro Turbo (crap)

2. Peugeot 205 1.6 GTI (a bit underpowered despite what others say)

3. Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI (Absolutely superb)

4. Lancia Integrale 16 Valve with Abarth motorsport chip (260bhp) brilliantly bonkers

The one I always hankered after as it was RWD but was a bit before my time
is the Lotus Sunbeam.

I progressed from the Integrale to a Prodrive Impreza that kicked the ass of all of the above
but I suppose doesn't qualify for this thread.,
I still own it!





Edited by Carlson W6 on Sunday 26th March 09:53

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

204 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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rallycross said:
Meridius said:
Has it really taken this long?
These cars have nothing to do with hot hatches, Metro 6R4, Delta S4, 205 T16 are rally homologation specials, totally different breed to the hot hatch. Take a step back and you have Delta HF turbo (fwd), Metro 1.3 turbo, 205 1.6/1.9 Gti, these are hot hatches.
At least try and keep on track with the OP.
Agreed, never have and never will consider the Integrale, Cossie or any other Grp A or B road version as a hot hatch.

Obviously that's just my opinion.

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah

12,787 posts

99 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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Nickp82 said:
Nova GSi in Silk Violet, its the car the teenage me longed for (I only managed a 1.4 SRi) but never got.
A friend had just this, stacked it in to the back of a classic Mini whilst perving at a passing lass!

angels95

3,157 posts

129 months

Sunday 26th March 2017
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The 205 GTI is the first car that springs to mind, although I'd really love a 306 Rallye (basically a GTI-6 on a diet).

Pothole

34,367 posts

281 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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angels95 said:
The 205 GTI is the first car that springs to mind, although I'd really love a 306 Rallye (basically a GTI-6 on a diet).
Not sure anyone involved in this thread needed the info in parentheses.

knight

5,204 posts

278 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Jonmx said:
144mph top speed.

I remember seeing an indicated 150 in mine on the A24 wink

RBH58

969 posts

134 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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205GTI and a Clio V6 even though the latter isn't really a true hot hatch.

Brilad

594 posts

188 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Lhasa Green Mk1 Golf GTI

Single headlamp version

Reg A411 UOF to be precise!


LanceRS

2,171 posts

136 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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A bit difficult to narrow this down, I have fond memories of many of them, between my self and my friends we had quite a collection during our formative driving years. I shall start with this though.

The first car that brought that new found freedom as a teenager. One of my best friends bought one having turned 17 before the rest of us, unfortunately it only lasted a couple of weeks before being written of at a junction (I still have the Recaro seats that I gave him £50 for).
If I could have found a decent one at the time, I would have bought it. What I did buy was a Fiesta Supersport instead, not fast , but quick enough at the time and great fun.
Then we move onto the XR2s, Early Mk2 with the bigger carb would probably be the one or a decent Caspian blue Mk 1.
The RS Turbo torque steered to much but I probably still would and as with the RS 1600i, useless brakes.
Another friend had a Delta HF Turbo, again no brakes but a nice drive, slightly spoiled but the speed at which it rusted. I'd be surprised if there are any left now, but a white one with the Martini stripes...
The thing is, that we identify with things that remind us of our youth. People younger than me will pick 106s etc (my sister had a 1.4 XSi, great fun little thing as long as you had small feet). Having said that I would have another Mk6 RS2000, a very underrated great cross country machine. Suffered from looking like all the other Escorts and rusting just as badly.
Anyway enough rambling and on with the thread.

Edited by LanceRS on Tuesday 28th March 22:30


Edited by LanceRS on Tuesday 28th March 22:31

angels95

3,157 posts

129 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Pothole said:
angels95 said:
The 205 GTI is the first car that springs to mind, although I'd really love a 306 Rallye (basically a GTI-6 on a diet).
Not sure anyone involved in this thread needed the info in parentheses.
You what?

battered

4,088 posts

146 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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He means that everyone here knows that a 106 Rallye was a lighter version of another performance model. Give or take. It's sort-of true, and yes, we do know what a 306 Rallye is, but this is a car chatroom so remarks like that aren't out of place.

Oh and before anyone says, yes I do know there are spec diffenjces between a Rallye and a 6, but that's one for the pub or a sunny field at a car show if these cars are your thing.

I'd have either FWIW, I'd very much like a 106 Rallye or 205 Rallye too, but those 2 ships have sailed.

andymc

7,334 posts

206 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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black fiesta RS turbo, how i loved that car

culpz

4,881 posts

111 months

Thursday 30th March 2017
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I do love my fast Renault's'. The R5 GTT's definitely have something about them, it must be said.

I'm now convinced that my next car will be a PH1 Clio 172 smile

GeordieInExile

683 posts

119 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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angels95 said:
The 205 GTI is the first car that springs to mind, although I'd really love a 306 Rallye (basically a GTI-6 on a diet).
I'd want a Rallye as well, my GTi-6 was a cracking car.

I would also like at some point to get a 309 GTi - have heard they're even better to drive than 205s and they're also rarer.

battered

4,088 posts

146 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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A mate had a 309 gti back in the day, great car and better handling than 205. Ugly though.

angels95

3,157 posts

129 months

Monday 3rd April 2017
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GeordieInExile said:
angels95 said:
The 205 GTI is the first car that springs to mind, although I'd really love a 306 Rallye (basically a GTI-6 on a diet).
I'd want a Rallye as well, my GTi-6 was a cracking car.
Not sure if I'm confusing you with someone else, but aren't you the one who bought that GTI-6 on about 250k miles? Came very close to buying that car myself!

If that's not you just ignore me!