Modifying Cars, yay or nay?

Modifying Cars, yay or nay?

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InductionRoar

2,014 posts

132 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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The OEM Z4M wheels are rather heavy and provided your brakes are standard they don't require the extra size (18 inch) so I would buy some better wheels of the correct size and the best rubber you can.

Steering wheel does add to the experience but I should imagine the cost wouldn't enhance the experience that much but as others have said it's your money but bear in mind the extra money you will be spending on buying, fitting and declaring your mods to the insurance.


Drew106

1,399 posts

145 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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austinsmirk said:
in hindsight, I'd quite like back all the £10,000's I've blown chucking into playing with cars for really not a lot of point, looking back.
Some of the most enjoyable things in life are completely pointless!

caelite

4,274 posts

112 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Yay

Part if being an enthusiast is modifying your car so it is perfect for you. None of the proposed changes even sound that outrageous.

Christmassss

650 posts

89 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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I've modified every car I have ever owned, ranging from a full Re-Ameniya Kit on my RX7 to the Bora flush air vents on my Passat.

Its part of what I love about cars!

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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I reckon if insurance is an issue then modifications are probably going to increase the cost of it.
Some of the comments here about modifying a vehicle are bizarre. Where do you draw the line? OEM brand/model tyres only? No upgraded disks or pads, no remaps, upgraded bushes or suspension components, lighter alloys etc etc?
Personally I'm all in favour of performance enhancing modification if it's done using high quality components or adds something to the car ie cruise control stalk modification to a vw product.

kambites

67,552 posts

221 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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warcalf said:
Because I'm 22 and can't afford a Z4M... 2.5si is the limitation I've been dealt insurance wise and car cost wise for now I'm afraid!
Make sure to check the effect of the modifications on your insurance. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the mods you're proposing push your insurance higher than if you'd bought a Z4M in the first place.

novus

222 posts

160 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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kambites said:
Make sure to check the effect of the modifications on your insurance. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if the mods you're proposing push your insurance higher than if you'd bought a Z4M in the first place.
Really?

I would be staggered if the things listed raised his insurance much at all let alone more than a Z4M premium

aka_kerrly

12,417 posts

210 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Something like this... although personally I'd rather black or carbon dash insert to the silver


Would make the car more desirable to me than black on black .

The Z4m steering wheel is a nice addition to. I think those who say you should have bought a Z4M are getting a little carried away.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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Motorrad said:
I reckon if insurance is an issue then modifications are probably going to increase the cost of it.
Some of the comments here about modifying a vehicle are bizarre. Where do you draw the line? OEM brand/model tyres only? No upgraded disks or pads, no remaps, upgraded bushes or suspension components, lighter alloys etc etc?
Personally I'm all in favour of performance enhancing modification if it's done using high quality components or adds something to the car ie cruise control stalk modification to a vw product.
It's well defined what constitutes a modification, use of non equivalent parts. So pirelli tyres in lieu of Michelin is like for like, as is ferodo for BMW brakes. But fit high performance alternatives like pagid or minted 1144, that's a mod. So is fitting wheels that were M3 fit only to a 318i. Will you get caught? Who knows?

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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I love modifying cars as I tend to find normal stuff pretty dull, even things like M3s, 911s etc.

A few good mods can uncork a car and make it much better to drive and better than newer stuff. When I have finished, my E36 328 should be a lot better than an M3 for instance.

CrouchingWayne

686 posts

176 months

Friday 24th March 2017
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I have a Z4 and I fitted a GROM BT3 adapter to the standard stereo. I can now pair my phone for Spotify, calls etc. It also uses the steering wheel controls which makes it look and feel pretty much OEM. I have the DSP stereo which makes it slightly more complex (read: costs more) but non-DSP should be easier and pretty affordable.

Just highlighting in case you want to avoid an aftermarket head unit.

Tinkshusband

280 posts

103 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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CrouchingWayne said:
I have a Z4 and I fitted a GROM BT3 adapter to the standard stereo. I can now pair my phone for Spotify, calls etc. It also uses the steering wheel controls which makes it look and feel pretty much OEM. I have the DSP stereo which makes it slightly more complex (read: costs more) but non-DSP should be easier and pretty affordable.

Just highlighting in case you want to avoid an aftermarket head unit.
thought the same thing , you can get bluetooth / aux boxes that plug into the back of the oem unit ( where a cd changer would be) and they ad bluetooth, usb and aux. less than 60 quid on ebay too. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Z4-Bluetooth-Hands-F...

Matttrakker

630 posts

147 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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I've always modified my cars, I like tinkering with them.
But I concur with most others here. Either keep the old pets and change back when you sell, or do them in a way which only enhances it. No fibreglass bits stick on tat etc.
I've changed my wheels for Vw racing wheels still OEM, swapped the stereo for a kenwood, but it's a very good bit of kit.
It's been remapped by a decent company so I've probably narrowed my customer base when it comes to selling but I like it.
I probably would think twice it if I saw it for sale as it is due to the mods, but I like doing these bits myself, could save about £1500 buying it done already.
Do what you want to your z4 enjoy it, forget about the next buyer for now.

LasseV

1,754 posts

133 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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yay for car modding. I find stock engines quite boring and usually small improvements makes big difference. Same goes to suspension too. No thanks for chavtastic modding, i like OEM+ kind of things.

warcalf

Original Poster:

252 posts

87 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Kitchski said:
Mostly, I'm an original bloke. Not so much for newer cars like the Z4, but for older cars. I like to see them preserved how I remember them. I also think it's much, much hard to improve on what a manufacturer achieved than people realise. I get a lot of modified cars in at work, and it's rare that I drive one I think that it's actually better than a standard one.

That said, I have a Hillman Imp with a Saxo VTR engine in the back, so what the hell do I know?! laugh
Well, I'm going to be using BMW parts for everything, so it'll all look original and like it came out of the factory that way...

warcalf

Original Poster:

252 posts

87 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Grebby said:
Phone up your insurance co and mention what you are thinking of doing. Ask them if/by how much it will affect the price?

FWIW I would only modify to enhance functionality/performance but it's your car and money and choice.
I don't think I'd bother calling the insurance company over things like that. Only performance mods

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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I'm a fan of making a car your own. The plans you have are similar to what i'd do. I personally like the OEM+ look, which is what i applied to my VW Scirocco.

StoatInACoat

1,354 posts

185 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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The answer to this is to buy a French car. I replace stuff with upgraded/modified stuff as and when it breaks as it's usually cheaper and the original parts is often complete ste which is why it failed in the first place. After a couple of years you end up with a fairly extensively modified car whether you want one or not.

feef

5,206 posts

183 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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I tend not to buy cars based on how easy they might be to sell on. I buy them so I can enjoy them. It also depends what you qualify as modifying.
I've not modded the C6 at all (unless fitting bluetooth receiver and towbar counts), but I'm currently dropping a V8 into my MX5, and it was supercharged before that.

I'm sure I could have bought something as quick or quicker for the money I've spent on the MX5, but where's the fun in that? Anyone can buy a car. It takes a bit more involvement, skill and vision to -properly- mod a car i.e. not just sticking some tat on, and then it becomes your car, not just an item that you own.

I'd do it.

kambites

67,552 posts

221 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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warcalf said:
I don't think I'd bother calling the insurance company over things like that. Only performance mods
It's highly likely you'd be breaching the contract of your insurance, then. There may be companies which don't demand to be informed about non-performance mods like wheels, but I've never come across one.