RE: 400hp Abarth 500!
Discussion
ecsrobin said:
These engines are great for power.
I've just got back from an Abarth specialist as I have a 180 Competizione a quick map and cone filter will obtain 220bhp not bad for minimum outlay.
To a point. Stronger block, forged crank and pistons, cams, head work, bigger turbo etc etc. This engine is essentially no longer a FIAT unit :-)I've just got back from an Abarth specialist as I have a 180 Competizione a quick map and cone filter will obtain 220bhp not bad for minimum outlay.
A lot of boost and lag I expect, but who cares, it's bonkers! A lot of tuned TFSI boys would get their bottoms handed to them in one of these, and won't admit to being beaten by a FIAT 500 on any of the forums, lol!
Martin_Hx said:
mooseracer said:
People wondering why 4WD and RWD cars accelerate quicker off the line than this. Really?
Aye made me wonder as well! FWD will never win that race
spookly said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBRjATOZUoAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBRjATOZUoA
More about this, but German soundtrack...
@ 0:16, but sound NSFWmac96 said:
Martin_Hx said:
mooseracer said:
People wondering why 4WD and RWD cars accelerate quicker off the line than this. Really?
Aye made me wonder as well! FWD will never win that race
Krikkit said:
280hp/litre... Can't see that lasting long!
Why not? it's easy. I've been running way over 200bhp per litre for years - lump has done 300,000 miles and I didn't have the resources of a full-blown tuning house to develop the engineAs for 400bhp through the front wheels - yes, it's a bit of a 'mare getting it off the line quickly, but once rolling, it's not really that much different and it's far more forgiving than the same power through the rear wheels - we're not all drift-gods....
Nigel_O said:
Krikkit said:
280hp/litre... Can't see that lasting long!
Why not? it's easy. I've been running way over 200bhp per litre for years - lump has done 300,000 miles and I didn't have the resources of a full-blown tuning house to develop the engine
Edited by Centurion07 on Friday 24th March 21:44
big_rob_sydney said:
For something with the power to weight ratio this has, the performance metrics are very disappointing.
0-60 time is the only significant performance metric quoted (top speed being pretty irrelevant). Do you have access to any other metrics for this car? I am surprised that on a forum of supposed car enthusiasts there are so many people that don't realise that putting 400bhp through the front wheels on road tyres is not going to lead to the sort of standing start performance you could extract from an equivalent RWD or 4WD car.
In real world conditions these hot 500's are very quick for such a little car, must be great on a B road with so little width, and slightly scary with the short wheelbase. This must be manic.
Funny how the ladies car 500 actually can be made macho mental, something VW failed with the Beetle even in R guise.
400 from 1.4 though. That's pushing it even for a modern engine. In the old days it would be a highly tuned Sierra Cosworth with so much fuel being pumped through the large exhaust you could smell the petrol as it overtook you and had to put out your ciggy pronto....
Funny how the ladies car 500 actually can be made macho mental, something VW failed with the Beetle even in R guise.
400 from 1.4 though. That's pushing it even for a modern engine. In the old days it would be a highly tuned Sierra Cosworth with so much fuel being pumped through the large exhaust you could smell the petrol as it overtook you and had to put out your ciggy pronto....
Edited by Gandahar on Friday 24th March 21:53
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff