So how would a self drive car deal with a cat?
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Seem to remember a comment from one of the major manufacturers on this issue a few years ago in the early days of the technology development. I think it might have been Mercedes, but could be wrong. The comment was that the moral & liability issues were way bigger than getting the technology to work: some developer somewhere had to write a system that made the decision between hitting an object in the road, or swerving & hitting an object on the pavement. The objects being anything from a cat, to a pedestrian, bus queue, or shop. Around that, there was the potential liability involved for the manufacturer who signed off that system & ultimately had responsibility for that decision. Don't know how much further down the line, the industry is to addressing the issue, but in an increasingly ambulance chasing/no-win-no-fee/blame culture the ramifications must be scarily huge. Nevertheless, the number of manufacturers working on, or already rolling out the tech seems to be growing, rather than shrinking, so maybe it's been addressed??
What if a robot (self drive car or whatever) was in the position whereby it needed to take action to avoid killing human A, however that action killed human B. Either way a human dies but how does the robot choose which?
Humans can make that decision, probably on emotional grounds (e.g. You save your child instead of the stranger). What if the robot is owned by you, should/could it be programmed to save your child over others?
Humans can make that decision, probably on emotional grounds (e.g. You save your child instead of the stranger). What if the robot is owned by you, should/could it be programmed to save your child over others?
Dracoro said:
What if a robot (self drive car or whatever) was in the position whereby it needed to take action to avoid killing human A, however that action killed human B. Either way a human dies but how does the robot choose which?
Humans can make that decision, probably on emotional grounds (e.g. You save your child instead of the stranger). What if the robot is owned by you, should/could it be programmed to save your child over others?
I read a quote somewhere from Volvo where they stated they would set their self driving cars to save you rather than a stranger. Basically the usual Volvo thing of protecting their occupants / customers.Humans can make that decision, probably on emotional grounds (e.g. You save your child instead of the stranger). What if the robot is owned by you, should/could it be programmed to save your child over others?
J4CKO said:
Just confused on the specifics of how Cats are involved in Nascar ?
Do they release a bag of assorted moggies at some point ? it does get a bit dull so can see how that would help.
Now the nets over the windows thing makes sense, it's to prevent other drivers lobbing their moggies into your car!. Do they release a bag of assorted moggies at some point ? it does get a bit dull so can see how that would help.
Gary29 said:
steveo3002 said:
what about a mcdonalds bag laying on the road , often see these and take a chance that its empty and go over it or straddle it , will the car tell the difference between a paper bag and large rock? will they drive around pot holes ?
Maybe I'm a luddite (although I'm allegedly an intelligent person with a scientific background) but I really can't see a flawless driverless car system in the UK, far too many variables for current processing power to cope with without some serious glitches with life threatening consequences.Perhaps I'm looking at it in the wrong way or I'm missing something?
I think there will ALWAYS have to be a human sat behind the 'controls' to over ride the system in certain scenarios.
tescorank said:
As there are many variables and a computers can't deal with compassion I imagine a lot of dead cats, maybe on the other had they should not let (the car not the cat) them on the road until they have won a nascar race.
I'm pretty on the fence about the whole automated driving question but, and I'm just going to speculate wildy here, I imagine stuff like this is part of what's being considered pretty early on by those developing such systems.Winning NASCAR races would be much easier I'd have thought so let's work out how long it would take for an automated car to win one of them. I'd wager 5 years max if all the current effort was diverted that way?
Sten. said:
I tend to liken it to air travel. I'm pretty sure back in the early days lots of people thought there was too much risk involved, it wasn't safe and they couldn't ever see it taking off (pun intended). Today, millions of us travel by air every year even though it's not perfect and people do occasionally die.
accept there is barely anything up there but a few other airplanes? The pilots I believe still do the all the take off and landing bits? So easier scenario but still not fully automated? Trains, very restricted movements, automatic signalling/points and not automated, why
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