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Still Mulling said:
Marketing team with English as a second language? It reminds me of a supermarket in Greece who had used the English phrase "we could be worse" as a slogan... What they were really going for was "we couldn't be better", the subtle difference in phrasing and its very different meaning apparently didn't translate.Edited by donkmeister on Thursday 15th February 19:45
irish boy said:
They've got themselves into a little bit of hot water over misrepresentation. I wonder what will happen to them when the Chinese manufacturers they base their cars on start selling them in Europe. No sure what's best (worse) a Chinese built car or a Chinese kit car built in Italy 
https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/italys-dr-a...
donkmeister said:
Still Mulling said:
Marketing team with English as a second language? It reminds me of a supermarket in Greece who had used the English phrase "we could be worse" as a slogan... What they were really going for was "we couldn't be better", the subtle difference in phrasing and its very different meaning apparently didn't translate.Edited by donkmeister on Thursday 15th February 19:45
They only imported the Saloon and Estate
The Romanians had nothing to do with the brochures.
The Dacia Car company went into liquidation owing the company that did a lot of prep work a lot of money and with yard full of cars.
The Romanian embassy negotiated with this company to take on the importership and so Dacia Concessionaires was born, Based in Westbury in Wiltshire where they dropped the cars and concentrated on the 1 Tonne pick-up and Dropside and added the ARO 10 range under the Dacia brand in the UK.
The model designation "Duster" was invented in a small office in Westbury but the Duster was never actually a Dacia outside of the UK.
Dacia Concessionaires became part of the group that distributed Yugo cars and Mahindra in the UK but it all fell apart when the Yugoslavs had a bit of a tiff and someone bombed the factory, closely followed by the Romanians getting a bit miffed at Mr Ceaușescu.
They were interesting times and, looking back, good times.
Triumph Man said:
Not a particularly interesting vehicle, but perhaps a quite interesting mash up of manufacturers, I give you the Ford Pampa, from Ford do Brazil
The eagle eyed amongst you will have noticed the 3 stud hub... for this actually has bits of Renault from its dim and distant past
That's effectively a Corcel based P100. For those that don't know, the Pampa was a truck conversion of the Corcel car - a car that looked a bit like a cross between a Cortina, a Mk2 Escort and a VW Polo saloon but wasn't actually any of them:The eagle eyed amongst you will have noticed the 3 stud hub... for this actually has bits of Renault from its dim and distant past
As has been said, it's a Renault underneath. Brazil has also produced VW badged Fords, Ford badged VWs and Ford flathead powered Chryslers that were really Simca Vedettes. They do things their own way...
Missy Charm said:
Triumph Man said:
Not a particularly interesting vehicle, but perhaps a quite interesting mash up of manufacturers, I give you the Ford Pampa, from Ford do Brazil
The eagle eyed amongst you will have noticed the 3 stud hub... for this actually has bits of Renault from its dim and distant past
That's effectively a Corcel based P100. For those that don't know, the Pampa was a truck conversion of the Corcel car - a car that looked a bit like a cross between a Cortina, a Mk2 Escort and a VW Polo saloon but wasn't actually any of them:The eagle eyed amongst you will have noticed the 3 stud hub... for this actually has bits of Renault from its dim and distant past
As has been said, it's a Renault underneath. Brazil has also produced VW badged Fords, Ford badged VWs and Ford flathead powered Chryslers that were really Simca Vedettes. They do things their own way...
Saw one of these today (in a dealership, not on the road). It's a Nio EP9, Nio being one of the many newer Chinese manufacturers.
Generally inoffensive, generic 'electric supercar' design, did catch my eye to be fair. Apparently this model is a few years old now, but I'd never heard of it/them before. The one I saw was grey, or maybe black.
Generally inoffensive, generic 'electric supercar' design, did catch my eye to be fair. Apparently this model is a few years old now, but I'd never heard of it/them before. The one I saw was grey, or maybe black.
horsemeatscandal said:
Saw one of these today (in a dealership, not on the road). It's a Nio EP9, Nio being one of the many newer Chinese manufacturers.
Generally inoffensive, generic 'electric supercar' design, did catch my eye to be fair. Apparently this model is a few years old now, but I'd never heard of it/them before. The one I saw was grey, or maybe black.
I had read about Nio online, they are the parent company to a few other Chinese brands, too.Generally inoffensive, generic 'electric supercar' design, did catch my eye to be fair. Apparently this model is a few years old now, but I'd never heard of it/them before. The one I saw was grey, or maybe black.
I hadn't realised that any had made it to the UK, especially to dealers. Where was it, may I ask?
Jazzy Jag said:
I had read about Nio online, they are the parent company to a few other Chinese brands, too.
I hadn't realised that any had made it to the UK, especially to dealers. Where was it, may I ask?
It was in Oslo, I'm on holiday. Was mostly SUVs in the showroom which at first I thought were Volvos (they looked like the EX30 which is also being heavily advertised over here).I hadn't realised that any had made it to the UK, especially to dealers. Where was it, may I ask?
Silvanus said:
Missy Charm said:
Triumph Man said:
Not a particularly interesting vehicle, but perhaps a quite interesting mash up of manufacturers, I give you the Ford Pampa, from Ford do Brazil
The eagle eyed amongst you will have noticed the 3 stud hub... for this actually has bits of Renault from its dim and distant past
That's effectively a Corcel based P100. For those that don't know, the Pampa was a truck conversion of the Corcel car - a car that looked a bit like a cross between a Cortina, a Mk2 Escort and a VW Polo saloon but wasn't actually any of them:The eagle eyed amongst you will have noticed the 3 stud hub... for this actually has bits of Renault from its dim and distant past
As has been said, it's a Renault underneath. Brazil has also produced VW badged Fords, Ford badged VWs and Ford flathead powered Chryslers that were really Simca Vedettes. They do things their own way...
horsemeatscandal said:
Saw one of these today (in a dealership, not on the road). It's a Nio EP9, Nio being one of the many newer Chinese manufacturers.
Generally inoffensive, generic 'electric supercar' design, did catch my eye to be fair. Apparently this model is a few years old now, but I'd never heard of it/them before. The one I saw was grey, or maybe black.
I worked briefly on this project, specifically on the brakesGenerally inoffensive, generic 'electric supercar' design, did catch my eye to be fair. Apparently this model is a few years old now, but I'd never heard of it/them before. The one I saw was grey, or maybe black.
The thing was insane, the underside was basically one big diffuser and it generated so much downforce that it was reputed to be getting diminishing returns out of the tyres because they were saturated with vertical load.
The brakes were right on the edge of what physically possible at the time with ceramic discs, we had to design huuuuge bespoke billet calipers to get enough stiffness
It also sounded like a Eurofighter on reheat when it went past fully lit at Brunters!
The Wookie said:
horsemeatscandal said:
Saw one of these today (in a dealership, not on the road). It's a Nio EP9, Nio being one of the many newer Chinese manufacturers.
Generally inoffensive, generic 'electric supercar' design, did catch my eye to be fair. Apparently this model is a few years old now, but I'd never heard of it/them before. The one I saw was grey, or maybe black.
I worked briefly on this project, specifically on the brakesGenerally inoffensive, generic 'electric supercar' design, did catch my eye to be fair. Apparently this model is a few years old now, but I'd never heard of it/them before. The one I saw was grey, or maybe black.
The thing was insane, the underside was basically one big diffuser and it generated so much downforce that it was reputed to be getting diminishing returns out of the tyres because they were saturated with vertical load.
The brakes were right on the edge of what physically possible at the time with ceramic discs, we had to design huuuuge bespoke billet calipers to get enough stiffness
It also sounded like a Eurofighter on reheat when it went past fully lit at Brunters!
The Wookie said:
I worked briefly on this project, specifically on the brakes
The thing was insane, the underside was basically one big diffuser and it generated so much downforce that it was reputed to be getting diminishing returns out of the tyres because they were saturated with vertical load.
The brakes were right on the edge of what physically possible at the time with ceramic discs, we had to design huuuuge bespoke billet calipers to get enough stiffness
It also sounded like a Eurofighter on reheat when it went past fully lit at Brunters!
Oh nice. How would you say it compares to something like a Rimac Nevera (as an engineering product rather than as a car to drive)? That's the only car I can think of off the top of my head that would be a straight competitor and that is actually a car you could (theoretically) go out and buy. The thing was insane, the underside was basically one big diffuser and it generated so much downforce that it was reputed to be getting diminishing returns out of the tyres because they were saturated with vertical load.
The brakes were right on the edge of what physically possible at the time with ceramic discs, we had to design huuuuge bespoke billet calipers to get enough stiffness
It also sounded like a Eurofighter on reheat when it went past fully lit at Brunters!
rodericb said:
Is there much chinese-origin engineering in it?
I think it’s been publicised as to which engineering firm did most of the work for Nio although I won’t say just in case.There were some Chinese engineers on secondment as is pretty common, or at least was common back then. Hilariously one of them was a notoriously crashy client at my previous job when he worked for another company, he didn’t look very pleased to see me, maybe he sugar coated his CV
Edited by The Wookie on Saturday 17th February 10:04
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