More cars you didn't know existed...

More cars you didn't know existed...

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gt40steve

702 posts

105 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Blown2CV said:
Panamax said:
^^ I wonder how they sorted out the gearing for those humungous wheels? Or perhaps the easy answer was just to drive everywhere in low ratio.
is it not just a tractor with a landy body
The Roadless 109 cost £1558 or £1658 for the diesel version in December 1961.

The gearbox & transfer box were stock. Studebaker axles with GKN Kirkstall reduction hubs sorted out the gearing. Top speed 30 mph which probably felt more than enough !

The front track is 14 inches wider than the rear to allow the front wheels to turn although the turning circle is still large.

I understand there were parts to build around 20 but it is generally believed only 9 were produced, the last in 1964.


Blown2CV

28,960 posts

204 months

Thursday 2nd May
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gt40steve said:
Blown2CV said:
Panamax said:
^^ I wonder how they sorted out the gearing for those humungous wheels? Or perhaps the easy answer was just to drive everywhere in low ratio.
is it not just a tractor with a landy body
The Roadless 109 cost £1558 or £1658 for the diesel version in December 1961.

The gearbox & transfer box were stock. Studebaker axles with GKN Kirkstall reduction hubs sorted out the gearing. Top speed 30 mph which probably felt more than enough !

The front track is 14 inches wider than the rear to allow the front wheels to turn although the turning circle is still large.

I understand there were parts to build around 20 but it is generally believed only 9 were produced, the last in 1964.
i'm none the wiser there really. So basically it isn't a landy or a tractor, it's a third thing?

gt40steve

702 posts

105 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Land Rover chassis, most of the body, engine, gearbox & transfer box.

Conversion approved by Land Rover.

Only tractor component is the wheels and tyres.

It isn't designed for draft work ( pulling things ). Original idea was from the Forestry Commission for a vehicle that could cope with very deep wet rutted forest tracks.

Surely that's a modified Land Rover by any definition.


Catweazle

1,174 posts

143 months

Thursday 2nd May
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If you think that Landrover is odd wait until you see a Cuthbertson conversion.


rodericb

6,788 posts

127 months

Friday 3rd May
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The Wookie said:
Missy Charm said:
Bit of an extreme way to deal with the old Mondy cracked rear bumper syndrome
Excellent spotting on the registrations a few posts back. Which opens a bit of a can of worms as, going by the other Coaster partly in the picture, it seems there's some sort of progression through the ranks of the Coaster A'lamour clique as one has to shed the mundanity of the Mondeo skin and go, well, cyber or however that that angled addenda is addressed, to ascend the social structure. LIke body modification forums, nullies etcetera....

ajprice

27,649 posts

197 months

Friday 3rd May
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A Chinese model which was a Citroen ZX built under licence, the JM Star Meilu 7131 and 7132. Yes they are Civic lights, and Mercedes lights on the rear of the saloon.








seefarr

1,474 posts

187 months

Friday 3rd May
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Every day a journey said:
Who knew?



In 1959, the specialist tractor company Roadless Traction Ltd of Hounslow, West London, created this monster out of a Land Rover Series II 109, and in May of this year it turned up in North Yorkshire at Tennants Auctioneers. The second prototype of a production run that amounted to fewer than 20 similar vehicles, and one of six remaining, it flew past its £50k estimate and sold for £110,000 ($136,000),
So a 4x4 with tractor tyres and axles? They invented Monster Trucks! idea

Just needs a nitro burning V8 to be actually... good.

gt40steve

702 posts

105 months

Friday 3rd May
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seefarr said:
Every day a journey said:
Who knew?



In 1959, the specialist tractor company Roadless Traction Ltd of Hounslow, West London, created this monster out of a Land Rover Series II 109, and in May of this year it turned up in North Yorkshire at Tennants Auctioneers. The second prototype of a production run that amounted to fewer than 20 similar vehicles, and one of six remaining, it flew past its £50k estimate and sold for £110,000 ($136,000),
So a 4x4 with tractor tyres and axles? They invented Monster Trucks! idea

Just needs a nitro burning V8 to be actually... good.
No not tractor axles. Tractor tyres and wheels. A good call for the first monster truck though !

A typical tractor back axle is massive and includes the gearbox in the same casing.
Studebaker produced vehicles for the US military and their own pickups & light commercials. A likely source for suitable axles.


Matt Cup

3,165 posts

105 months

Friday 3rd May
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ajprice said:
A Chinese model which was a Citroen ZX built under licence, the JM Star Meilu 7131 and 7132. Yes they are Civic lights, and Mercedes lights on the rear of the saloon.







They look like cars you’d see running around Los Santos.

simonrockman

6,869 posts

256 months

Monday 13th May
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M1K3

2,858 posts

185 months

Monday 13th May
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▪︎ Bugatti EB112 Produced in collaboration with Italdesign Giugiaro in only three examples. After the launch of the EB 110, a high-performance two-seater Grand Tourer, the Campogalliano-based manufacturer (recently reborn from the ashes of the glorious Bugatti of Molsheim) decided to expand its range by conceiving a flagship that it intended to be the fastest four-door road-going saloon in the world, capable of reviving the glories of the Bugatti of yesteryear in an even more pronounced manner. The idea was to propose a limousine with lines that would bring back the old styling cues of Jean Bugatti, son of founder Ettore. The result was a car with a hatchback body, absolutely unusual for a limousine or luxury saloon. The EB 112 was equipped with an extremely luxurious interior, as befits a true prestige flagship. On the mechanical side, the car was equipped with a 5994 cm³ 5-valve per cylinder V12 engine, naturally aspirated and capable of developing up to 455 bhp at 6000 rpm, as well as 590 Nm at 3000 rpm, performance capable of propelling the 18 quintals of the imposing body to a top speed of 300 km/h per hour, with acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h in 4"4.










Jazzy Jag

3,437 posts

92 months

Monday 13th May
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M1K3 said:
?? Bugatti EB112 Produced in collaboration with Italdesign Giugiaro in only three examples. After the launch of the EB 110, a high-performance two-seater Grand Tourer, the Campogalliano-based manufacturer (recently reborn from the ashes of the glorious Bugatti of Molsheim) decided to expand its range by conceiving a flagship that it intended to be the fastest four-door road-going saloon in the world, capable of reviving the glories of the Bugatti of yesteryear in an even more pronounced manner. The idea was to propose a limousine with lines that would bring back the old styling cues of Jean Bugatti, son of founder Ettore. The result was a car with a hatchback body, absolutely unusual for a limousine or luxury saloon. The EB 112 was equipped with an extremely luxurious interior, as befits a true prestige flagship. On the mechanical side, the car was equipped with a 5994 cm³ 5-valve per cylinder V12 engine, naturally aspirated and capable of developing up to 455 bhp at 6000 rpm, as well as 590 Nm at 3000 rpm, performance capable of propelling the 18 quintals of the imposing body to a top speed of 300 km/h per hour, with acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h in 4"4.









Looks like he ordered a car from Wish or AliExpress.

Silvanus

5,324 posts

24 months

Monday 13th May
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Jazzy Jag said:
M1K3 said:
?? Bugatti EB112 Produced in collaboration with Italdesign Giugiaro in only three examples. After the launch of the EB 110, a high-performance two-seater Grand Tourer, the Campogalliano-based manufacturer (recently reborn from the ashes of the glorious Bugatti of Molsheim) decided to expand its range by conceiving a flagship that it intended to be the fastest four-door road-going saloon in the world, capable of reviving the glories of the Bugatti of yesteryear in an even more pronounced manner. The idea was to propose a limousine with lines that would bring back the old styling cues of Jean Bugatti, son of founder Ettore. The result was a car with a hatchback body, absolutely unusual for a limousine or luxury saloon. The EB 112 was equipped with an extremely luxurious interior, as befits a true prestige flagship. On the mechanical side, the car was equipped with a 5994 cm³ 5-valve per cylinder V12 engine, naturally aspirated and capable of developing up to 455 bhp at 6000 rpm, as well as 590 Nm at 3000 rpm, performance capable of propelling the 18 quintals of the imposing body to a top speed of 300 km/h per hour, with acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h in 4"4.









Looks like he ordered a car from Wish or AliExpress.
I really liked it when it was revealed. Considering what an S class at the time looked like.


donkmeister

8,259 posts

101 months

Tuesday
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Every day a journey said:
ANyone heard of Ferves? I cerntainly hadn't!

Behold, The Ranger! A Fiat 500 or 600 derived little thing in either RWD or 4WD
Quite a cute little thing..................but would you pay £20k plus for one?



A few for sale too...

https://www.theparking-cars.co.uk/used-cars/ferves...

Edited by Every day a journey on Thursday 18th April 15:44
When I was a kid I always wanted to drive the Chock a Block car...


TommoAE86

2,674 posts

128 months

Tuesday
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One-off Lambo Faena-Frua sold to private collector.




Fermit

13,059 posts

101 months

Tuesday
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At the time, I really rather liked the Eb112, and was saddened it didn't receive the green light. To my mind, it's more befitting of what a Bugatti should be, utter opulence, rather than excess all 'numbers' (BHP, MPH) The Veyron/Chiron do fk all for me.

Dapster

6,992 posts

181 months

Wednesday
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M1K3 said:
3 cars built. The red car was finished by Bugatti while the anothers were half-finished and sold to Gildo Pastor (billionaire Monegasque property magnate who owns Venturi Automobile). He had the two chassis built into full cars. Both black, #39003 remains in his collection whilst #39002 was up for sale a couple of years ago. Price was never disclosed but reports were that it sold for between $ 2 and $ 3m.

Here's Pastor out and about in Monaco




Interior is something else - looks like a PT Cruiser minicab. Just missing the magic tree air freshener on the mirror and the 'bab wrapper in the footwell.








Edited by Dapster on Wednesday 15th May 00:44

sidewinder500

1,177 posts

95 months

Wednesday
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That surely belongs into the badly aged cars thread...