RE: New Polestar 3 unveiled with up to 517hp
Discussion
Philz4mc said:
Can someone explain why no one apart from Tesla makes a big car with a big boot?!?! This is longer than my F Pace SVR which had 650L, longer than Tesla Y with 850L and Polestar can only manage a non kid friendly 480 litres. Same deal with Taycan
Phew glad it's not just me thinking this!!greggy50 said:
I will be amazed if this isnt a fair bit bigger inside than a Model 3. I had one and it wasnt that spacious at all in the back and the boot was average. Its basically the size of a 3 series and a rival for a Polestar 2 not this which is far closer in terms of efficiency (I have owned both).
Polestar Twos don't seem to come anywhere even vaguely near their claimed efficiency - they seem well down on Model 3 in the real world. There are owners on here who struggle to keep them above 3 miles/kWh, which you only ever really drop below in a Model 3 if you have been hooning it - 4 is common for most of the year.I own both a Model 3 and a Skoda Superb estate. The Model 3 has a bit less rear leg room than the Skoda, and the Tesla certainly could do with more height from the floor to the rear bench, but it runs the Skoda surprisingly close on boot space for family trips if you use the under-floor compartment (big enough for a decent-sized holdall/carry on luggage, and the frunk (which is similar). No other electric cars I've seen have usable space in these areas, and it makes a massive difference. There are many other things wrong with it for sure (suspension, for one) but packaging and efficiency still seem miles and miles ahead of the competition.
The Model 3 easily swallows a proper-sized buggy, travel cot, two full-sized hold-style bits of luggage, one large carry-on style bag, and assorted other random stuff (scooter, bags of shoes, buckets and spades) for a family get-away for a couple of weeks.
You can't fit a fridge or a wardrobe in it, but that aside, what more do you really need?
herebebeasties said:
greggy50 said:
I will be amazed if this isnt a fair bit bigger inside than a Model 3. I had one and it wasnt that spacious at all in the back and the boot was average. Its basically the size of a 3 series and a rival for a Polestar 2 not this which is far closer in terms of efficiency (I have owned both).
Polestar Twos don't seem to come anywhere even vaguely near their claimed efficiency - they seem well down on Model 3 in the real world. There are owners on here who struggle to keep them above 3 miles/kWh, which you only ever really drop below in a Model 3 if you have been hooning it - 4 is common for most of the year.I own both a Model 3 and a Skoda Superb estate. The Model 3 has a bit less rear leg room than the Skoda, and the Tesla certainly could do with more height from the floor to the rear bench, but it runs the Skoda surprisingly close on boot space for family trips if you use the under-floor compartment (big enough for a decent-sized holdall/carry on luggage, and the frunk (which is similar). No other electric cars I've seen have usable space in these areas, and it makes a massive difference. There are many other things wrong with it for sure (suspension, for one) but packaging and efficiency still seem miles and miles ahead of the competition.
The Model 3 easily swallows a proper-sized buggy, travel cot, two full-sized hold-style bits of luggage, one large carry-on style bag, and assorted other random stuff (scooter, bags of shoes, buckets and spades) for a family get-away for a couple of weeks.
You can't fit a fridge or a wardrobe in it, but that aside, what more do you really need?
In terms of efficiency to get 3kwh you really have to be pressing on i.e. 90mph where possible etc. Real world I would say the difference is about 15% having had both. Early days I would have said more but the various software updates aince I have had the car helped a lot.
In mixed driving I get about 3.5/3.6 miles kwh, however driven carefully I have seen it at about 4.3 for my duel motor car.
greggy50 said:
In terms of efficiency to get 3kwh you really have to be pressing on i.e. 90mph where possible etc. Real world I would say the difference is about 15% having had both. Early days I would have said more but the various software updates aince I have had the car helped a lot.
In mixed driving I get about 3.5/3.6 miles kwh, however driven carefully I have seen it at about 4.3 for my duel motor car.
I have no idea how you are getting anywhere near that.In mixed driving I get about 3.5/3.6 miles kwh, however driven carefully I have seen it at about 4.3 for my duel motor car.
Mine is around
44 kWh/ 100mi in the winter
35 kWh/ 100mi in the summer
Philz4mc said:
Can someone explain why no one apart from Tesla makes a big car with a big boot?!?! This is longer than my F Pace SVR which had 650L, longer than Tesla Y with 850L and Polestar can only manage a non kid friendly 480 litres. Same deal with Taycan
Exactly. Test drove a Taycan last weekend. It's a fantastic car, but how can a car that is 5m long and 2m wide have a rear boot of only 400 litres? This Polestar is only marginally better - similar dimensions and a boot of <500l. I guess Polestar / Volvo will push customers towards the EX90 when it comes out, but one of the supposed advantages of better packaging in EVs is being completely missed by a lot of manufacturers.Pretty simple and the Hyundai suffers alot for this.
EV motor in the boot is bigger than any rear diff, let alone the FWD style cars being replaced with RWD versions - ie Golf to ID3. and then some stick the inverter ontop of that motor. the Boot floor lifts and hence space is reduced.
EV motor in the boot is bigger than any rear diff, let alone the FWD style cars being replaced with RWD versions - ie Golf to ID3. and then some stick the inverter ontop of that motor. the Boot floor lifts and hence space is reduced.
Philz4mc said:
Can someone explain why no one apart from Tesla makes a big car with a big boot?!?! This is longer than my F Pace SVR which had 650L, longer than Tesla Y with 850L and Polestar can only manage a non kid friendly 480 litres. Same deal with Taycan
That's Tesla fudging their numbers again 
Most car makers measure cargo capacity up to the parcel shelf / top line of the rear seats.
Tesla however, measure the Model Y cargo space up to the glass roof, becasue the Y doesn't have a parcel shelf. Which is why the Model Y appears to have nearly double the carrying space.
Edited by SDK on Thursday 13th October 11:43
rare6499 said:
Who is buying these kinds of cars. They all look the same. Dull as dishwater. And yet they cost 80k+!
I’m obviously living in a totally different world to everyone else.
80k to me is a really special car, not a generic SUV to carry the kids around in.
1% BIK i.e company cars, I would wager 90% of taycans in this country are driven by company execs who effectively aren’t paying anything for them, it’s a complete no brainer. I’m obviously living in a totally different world to everyone else.
80k to me is a really special car, not a generic SUV to carry the kids around in.
Incidentally IMO that’s another reason why BMW have stuffed the iX so badly for this country, company execs are typically older, want discrete luxury for their daily driver (so as to travel well without flaunting wealth to employees), the iX couldn’t be more in your face!
Spiros115 said:
1% BIK i.e company cars, I would wager 90% of taycans in this country are driven by company execs who effectively aren’t paying anything for them, it’s a complete no brainer.
Incidentally IMO that’s another reason why BMW have stuffed the iX so badly for this country, company execs are typically older, want discrete luxury for their daily driver (so as to travel well without flaunting wealth to employees), the iX couldn’t be more in your face!
that'll be me Incidentally IMO that’s another reason why BMW have stuffed the iX so badly for this country, company execs are typically older, want discrete luxury for their daily driver (so as to travel well without flaunting wealth to employees), the iX couldn’t be more in your face!
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Spiros115 said:
1% BIK i.e company cars, I would wager 90% of taycans in this country are driven by company execs who effectively aren’t paying anything for them, it’s a complete no brainer.
Incidentally IMO that’s another reason why BMW have stuffed the iX so badly for this country, company execs are typically older, want discrete luxury for their daily driver (so as to travel well without flaunting wealth to employees), the iX couldn’t be more in your face!
that'll be me Incidentally IMO that’s another reason why BMW have stuffed the iX so badly for this country, company execs are typically older, want discrete luxury for their daily driver (so as to travel well without flaunting wealth to employees), the iX couldn’t be more in your face!
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