Has your insurance gone up?

Has your insurance gone up?

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Shnozz

27,512 posts

272 months

Thursday 4th April
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Not only that but a steady stream of insurers (non-motor but nonetheless) posting some very profitable combined ratio in their annual results. Aspen this week at 86% iirc.

Gesberg

73 posts

32 months

Thursday 4th April
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Renewal price was £50 more than last year, quick comparison site search got a new price of £300 less than last year.

BrettMRC

4,122 posts

161 months

Thursday 4th April
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I was quoted between £9-11k for the Supra this year via the usual channels, ended up going with the old school route of phoning someone up and got it down to £800...

J4CKO

41,676 posts

201 months

Thursday 4th April
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BrettMRC said:
I was quoted between £9-11k for the Supra this year via the usual channels, ended up going with the old school route of phoning someone up and got it down to £800...
Jesus, where do you live, Gaza ?

alscar

4,182 posts

214 months

Thursday 4th April
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Shnozz said:
Not only that but a steady stream of insurers (non-motor but nonetheless) posting some very profitable combined ratio in their annual results. Aspen this week at 86% iirc.
Not sure what a specialty ( largely Reinsurance based ) Insurer based in Bermuda that writes no motor insurance as a direct UK class has to do with car insurance premiums ?
Admiral do appear though to now be making a profit finally of circa 11% although whether that equates to one over the last 3 years combined I doubt.
That said even 11% seems relatively high given the majority of the market in the class always seem to only make single digits so perhaps prices really have peaked.

LF5335

6,031 posts

44 months

Thursday 4th April
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Shnozz said:
Not only that but a steady stream of insurers (non-motor but nonetheless) posting some very profitable combined ratio in their annual results. Aspen this week at 86% iirc.
So they make 14% profit?

RicksAlfas

13,412 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th April
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I've just renewed the company vehicle insurance and spotted these in the notes:

  • We are continuing to experience increases on motor fleet premiums due to the rising cost of vehicle repairs and related claims costs, caused by several factors, including advances in vehicle technology and global supply chain delays impacting the availability and cost of spare parts and of courtesy vehicles. These factors continue to significantly impact motor insurance premiums.
  • Please bear in mind the following new clause which Aviva have included should you be looking at purchasing a Land Rover or Range Rover in the future. Additional Theft Excess - Where your vehicle is any model of Land Rover or Range Rover and its market value is £25,000 or over, in the event of any loss of, or damage to your vehicle (including its accessories and spare parts) caused by theft, an additional excess will apply to your claim, calculated at five percent of the market value at the time of loss or damage. This additional excess applies in addition to any other excess stated in the policy schedule.

gtidriver

3,360 posts

188 months

Thursday 4th April
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My BMW 430d last year with General accident, £832, the renewal came out at £1353, nothing has changed apart from the car loosing more of its value. Tesco £689, if it had gone up a few pound I would have just paid it but at that price, no chance.

BrettMRC

4,122 posts

161 months

Thursday 4th April
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J4CKO said:
BrettMRC said:
I was quoted between £9-11k for the Supra this year via the usual channels, ended up going with the old school route of phoning someone up and got it down to £800...
Jesus, where do you live, Gaza ?
Almost, rural Somerset hehe

TwigtheWonderkid

43,449 posts

151 months

Thursday 4th April
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BrettMRC said:
J4CKO said:
BrettMRC said:
I was quoted between £9-11k for the Supra this year via the usual channels, ended up going with the old school route of phoning someone up and got it down to £800...
Jesus, where do you live, Gaza ?
Almost, rural Somerset hehe
Is Jacob Rees Mogg your MP? If so, I'd rather be in Gaza.

Mr Tidy

22,473 posts

128 months

Thursday 4th April
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
BrettMRC said:
J4CKO said:
BrettMRC said:
I was quoted between £9-11k for the Supra this year via the usual channels, ended up going with the old school route of phoning someone up and got it down to £800...
Jesus, where do you live, Gaza ?
Almost, rural Somerset hehe
Is Jacob Rees Mogg your MP? If so, I'd rather be in Gaza.
I'd rather have Jacob Rees Mogg as my MP than being lumbered with Michael Gove!

Anyway I just got the renewal for my 2005 BMW 330i and it has gone up from £245.03 to £265.01 which doesn't seem too bad - but I haven't told them about my non-fault incident last year when the other insurer decided it was a Cat N. Which shouldn't make any difference, but most insurers don't need much of an excuse these days.

loskie

5,270 posts

121 months

Friday 5th April
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so you are admitting lying to your insurer. Smart move.

Earthdweller

13,607 posts

127 months

Friday 5th April
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Mr Tidy said:
I'd rather have Jacob Rees Mogg as my MP than being lumbered with Michael Gove!

Anyway I just got the renewal for my 2005 BMW 330i and it has gone up from £245.03 to £265.01 which doesn't seem too bad - but I haven't told them about my non-fault incident last year when the other insurer decided it was a Cat N. Which shouldn't make any difference, but most insurers don't need much of an excuse these days.
I doubt telling your insurance company would have made any difference to your renewal premium

However a quick search by them (particularly should you make a claim with them) would show your car being written off in a collision and payout made as a result .. which would result in an awkward conversation and likely a breach of the terms of your contract

Possibly result in your insurance being cancelled and your claim not being processed

Plus then you’d have to try and get reinsurance having to admit you’d had your previous policy cancelled

Monkeylegend

26,479 posts

232 months

Friday 5th April
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Earthdweller said:
Mr Tidy said:
I'd rather have Jacob Rees Mogg as my MP than being lumbered with Michael Gove!

Anyway I just got the renewal for my 2005 BMW 330i and it has gone up from £245.03 to £265.01 which doesn't seem too bad - but I haven't told them about my non-fault incident last year when the other insurer decided it was a Cat N. Which shouldn't make any difference, but most insurers don't need much of an excuse these days.
I doubt telling your insurance company would have made any difference to your renewal premium

However a quick search by them (particularly should you make a claim with them) would show your car being written off in a collision and payout made as a result .. which would result in an awkward conversation and likely a breach of the terms of your contract

Possibly result in your insurance being cancelled and your claim not being processed

Plus then you’d have to try and get reinsurance having to admit you’d had your previous policy cancelled
Especially if you have your real name and location in your profile, assuming it is Mr Tidy's real name hehe

e-honda

8,929 posts

147 months

Friday 5th April
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I wouldn't chance it, but I would consider anything to do with claims or write offs something the insurer knows, ought to know or is presumed to know and therefore not something they can claim as non disclosure, particularly with an automatic renewal.
After all they are the ones with access to all the insurance industry databases, if write offs or non fault claims are relevant to them and they are all stored in a database they have full access to and the public don't they should be checking at renewal rather that relying on the consumer to read the renewal and discover it's not been automatically included.

loskie

5,270 posts

121 months

Friday 5th April
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to sum up a stupid and risky thing to do. Don't come greetin' here if it goes tits up.

Liars also add to the premiums of honest folks.

Sad but true.

e-honda

8,929 posts

147 months

Friday 5th April
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loskie said:
to sum up a stupid and risky thing to do. Don't come greetin' here if it goes tits up.

Liars also add to the premiums of honest folks.

Sad but true.
If both the insurer and insured have knowledge about something and they both choose to ignore it, who is the lier?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,449 posts

151 months

Saturday 6th April
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e-honda said:
I wouldn't chance it, but I would consider anything to do with claims or write offs something the insurer knows, ought to know or is presumed to know and therefore not something they can claim as non disclosure, particularly with an automatic renewal.
After all they are the ones with access to all the insurance industry databases, if write offs or non fault claims are relevant to them and they are all stored in a database they have full access to and the public don't they should be checking at renewal rather that relying on the consumer to read the renewal and discover it's not been automatically included.
No. If insurers had to do full checks on their customers claims history, dvla conviction check, criminal records check, all of which they could do, for every customer at inception, it would take time and money, more staff, and increase premiums. That's something I gather you're not keen on. Far better for them and us if they rely on the customer to tell them, so they can rate the policy, and do their checks, if they wish to, on the much smaller number of customers that have a claim. To ensure the info provided by the customer was correct.

Honestly, with all your industry experience, I'm surprised you hadn't figured this out.

danashby

218 posts

48 months

Saturday 6th April
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This is quite interesting. Insurance in the UK went up much more than anywhere in Europe.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/06/uk-c...


JustGetATesla

303 posts

120 months

Saturday 6th April
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danashby said:
This is quite interesting. Insurance in the UK went up much more than anywhere in Europe.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2024/apr/06/uk-c...
Of course! Everything costs more in the UK. Do French car insurers use claims management companies as ours do? There's your cost increase of a "repair" right there - in my case £165 A DAY for the courtesy Volvo where the repair wasn't even authorised for 6 weeks. Kerching.