RE: Fabled TVR T440R for sale
Discussion
GTRene said:
wow, thats a lot of money...
I rather buy a late mk2 or a Tuscan S and go to? to make it a 4.5L and have 450 or so hp and still have 150k+ or so in my pocket for other cars/things/petrol/whatever
Yeaaa…..this isn’t aimed at folks making either or decisions. It’s aimed at folks that already have all those things and much more. Folks to whom £250k is an irrelevance, and it’ll form part of their very nice collection. I think a YouTuber like Shmee150 should buy it. I think he’d generate some pretty solid revenue out of it.I rather buy a late mk2 or a Tuscan S and go to? to make it a 4.5L and have 450 or so hp and still have 150k+ or so in my pocket for other cars/things/petrol/whatever
Many, many years ago, probably around 2002-2004 I was out and about in my Seat Leon Cupra R on the country lanes near Harrogate when I came across an unusual looking TVR. So naturally have it the berries and chased it for about three miles towards the Sun Inn pub. It turned off down a narrow lane and I went on my merry way. Later the Typhon/T400/T4004 was announced I I guessed it must have been one, the TVR dealership Harrogate Horseless Carriages was around five miles away. It looked fantastic.
Without wading into the dispute about this road car, price, condition etc.
These things were the coolest things in the world when I was a kid. After the disappointment of losing the Speed 12 from competition, to have a whole bunch of these doing the rounds in British GT and regularly giving the likes of Porsche a bloody nose, to my eyes they were the most exciting thing in the world- even had the Scalextric models. The road cars have their own story, but this is where it’s at for me.
These things were the coolest things in the world when I was a kid. After the disappointment of losing the Speed 12 from competition, to have a whole bunch of these doing the rounds in British GT and regularly giving the likes of Porsche a bloody nose, to my eyes they were the most exciting thing in the world- even had the Scalextric models. The road cars have their own story, but this is where it’s at for me.
Gladers01 said:
IIRC Drew used to be the sales guy at Tvr Fernhurst and sold me my first Tamora many moons ago, a very knowledgeable chap on Tvrs. The car could have been better prepped and would suit a darker colour like Reflex Charcoal IMO, as for the price there was a silver T440R up for sale a couple of years ago at a similar amount which I thought was the first road going version, (L5 ***) time to buy a Lotto ticket 
Yes, Drew used to be with Fernies and is a really good bloke. Prep and photography could be better here but I wouldn't hesitate to buy a car from him. Not this one though.BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
For some reason I thought these were 4 seaters?
By the time the three customer cars were completed they had ditched the long range fuel tank idea and that meant they had space to be 2+2. The original idea was to offer either option to customers. Re the article, the third road car was built to Typhon spec but the supercharging was never sorted and had heat issues. So when I bought it and recommissioned it I chose to delete the supercharger and filled the front voids with air intakes so it could breathe properly as the SC set up used a box down on the ground that was going to hoover up water.
The one thing I can say as someone who owned TVRs for over twenty years is that these cars drive nothing like any other TVR built. Remarkable to drive and stable at a smidge under 200.
Here we go.
Colour matched Recaros for the sproggs. The whole reason I bought the car was for child duties when they came along. Boot more than big enough for any child kit and one of the most usable and spacious 2+2s available. A very sensible family car.
With the supercharger:
Some angles look ones a little ungainly but good from the top:
The designer referenced Gordon Murray so when GMD were starting work on the new Griffith, the car was taken down for them to look through:
Was displayed at the Revival:
Superb wagon and one of my children's favourite cars. But, ultimately, my BV Griff was more fun. Just more thrilling at much lower speeds. This car didn't get exciting until we'll over 100.
As for values, these were carbon fibre, Le Mans homologation cars and very different from any other TVR bar the Speed 12 which never really made it to the road. Drew sold mine so knows what someone will pay for such rarity and Woody is the only person I'd trust to rebuild one. A unique bit of British automotive history and arguably the final wholly British supercar, built in Britain, by Brits at a British firm and with a British engine. So they certainly have a value.
Colour matched Recaros for the sproggs. The whole reason I bought the car was for child duties when they came along. Boot more than big enough for any child kit and one of the most usable and spacious 2+2s available. A very sensible family car.
With the supercharger:
Some angles look ones a little ungainly but good from the top:
The designer referenced Gordon Murray so when GMD were starting work on the new Griffith, the car was taken down for them to look through:
Was displayed at the Revival:
Superb wagon and one of my children's favourite cars. But, ultimately, my BV Griff was more fun. Just more thrilling at much lower speeds. This car didn't get exciting until we'll over 100.
As for values, these were carbon fibre, Le Mans homologation cars and very different from any other TVR bar the Speed 12 which never really made it to the road. Drew sold mine so knows what someone will pay for such rarity and Woody is the only person I'd trust to rebuild one. A unique bit of British automotive history and arguably the final wholly British supercar, built in Britain, by Brits at a British firm and with a British engine. So they certainly have a value.
Edited by DonkeyApple on Sunday 12th November 15:55
Let off some steam Bennett said:
The hatred for tvr from English people is unbelievable, keep driving your boring German cars. You are the ones missing out
I think you’ll find there’s a difference between “hatred for TVR” and people either not liking that specific one or questioning if it’s worth a quarter of a million pounds. popegregory said:
Out of curiosity, how much was this supposed to have cost new?
£85k in base spec (2002). In Typhon spec with the sequential box under NS ownership it was just under £150k. I seem to recall the box was a near £30k option but it didn't actually ever get working. There is a story that it had a habit of locking in third and in one occasion a tear pilot pirouette through Blackpool as a result. This particular car was never for sale. It was the first one registered (all the cars were basically made at the same time as the Le Mans race cars and then sat awaiting completion. This one appeared on 2002 on road plates. It was initially badged as a TuscanR, then T400R. I'm not actually sure it ever wore the T440R badge as that was put on the Fleetwood Brown car that followed (That car has disappeared but I am 99% certain that it is in fact hiding in plain site but probably shouldn't say more publicly. In fact, I 100% know what and where it is).
First appearance as a TuscanR:
First as a T400R at the next year's motor show:
It then did the Evo run down to Le Mans and after that was used to promote the race cars and it's interior was removed:
This is the Fleetwood Brown car that was the first to wear the T440R badge and was the car featured in the Martin Brundle super car DVD:
The provenance of the cherry red car is that it's the only T400R and the second TuscanR
The first TuscanR was chopped up so it's gone:
Then got re sprayed purple and road registered:
Edited by DonkeyApple on Sunday 12th November 20:20
DonkeyApple said:
(That car has disappeared but I am 99% certain that it is in fact hiding in plain site but probably shouldn't say more publicly. In fact, I 100% know what and where it is).
Now you're teasing us DA, that's the first I've ever read that it wasn't destroyed, do tell, won't let anyone else know 
Speed 3 said:
DonkeyApple said:
(That car has disappeared but I am 99% certain that it is in fact hiding in plain site but probably shouldn't say more publicly. In fact, I 100% know what and where it is).
Now you're teasing us DA, that's the first I've ever read that it wasn't destroyed, do tell, won't let anyone else know Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff