RE: Fabled TVR T440R for sale
Discussion
miniman said:
Let off some steam Bennett said:
The hatred for tvr from English people is unbelievable, keep driving your boring German cars. You are the ones missing out
I think you’ll find there’s a difference between “hatred for TVR” and people either not liking that specific one or questioning if it’s worth a quarter of a million pounds. I'm now in a German car, love it and would never go back.
king steering wheel bolts. That's PH all over.
DonkeyApple said:
This particular car was never for sale. It was the first one registered (all the cars were basically made at the same time as the Le Mans race cars and then sat awaiting completion. This one appeared on 2002 on road plates
May Bank Holiday weekend 2002, at Bristol Road:
I was dropping a car off for service, out of hours, as I had done a few times, with the security guard briefed and holding keys to my loan TVR at the ready. Sadly, loan was Chim, not this, but he let me have a look at it, whilst Mrs Digga went to the loo inside the factory and got lost for about quarter of an hour on the way back out.
DonkeyApple said:
BigChiefmuffinAgain said:
For some reason I thought these were 4 seaters?
By the time the three customer cars were completed they had ditched the long range fuel tank idea and that meant they had space to be 2+2. The original idea was to offer either option to customers. Re the article, the third road car was built to Typhon spec but the supercharging was never sorted and had heat issues. So when I bought it and recommissioned it I chose to delete the supercharger and filled the front voids with air intakes so it could breathe properly as the SC set up used a box down on the ground that was going to hoover up water.
The one thing I can say as someone who owned TVRs for over twenty years is that these cars drive nothing like any other TVR built. Remarkable to drive and stable at a smidge under 200.
Are the other 2 reflex charcoal Typhons still in circulation? I remember talking to one of the owners at the Ace Cafe and he mentioned how practical his was as an everyday car, being used on a regular basis and certainly no garage queen, may have been Bob from Beaconsfield although it could have changed hands since then and my memory is hazy
cerb4.5lee said:
Agree. My Cerbera 4.5 was supposed to have 420bhp, but in reality you'd have been lucky if you got 360bhp(not that it ever felt slow though).
I remember Autocar road testing the 4.2 model, and they actually timed the 4.2 quicker than the 4.5...much to my disappointment if I'm honest!
That's because it had Peter Wheeler 5.4 AJP race engine fitted rather than a 4.2😂😂. The same engine was fitted to the car Jeremy Clarkson drove.I remember Autocar road testing the 4.2 model, and they actually timed the 4.2 quicker than the 4.5...much to my disappointment if I'm honest!
I think the Cerbera Speed 12 sold for what it was worth given how special it was but the 440 is too close to Tuscan and its a tough sell at £240k in this market.
Hedgetrimmer said:
I think the Cerbera Speed 12 sold for what it was worth given how special it was but the 440 is too close to Tuscan and its a tough sell at £240k in this market.
It's only real closeness is the looks but it's not going to be bought by anyone who needs others to recognise its price tag, it's a true enthusiast's car and a very rare turn of the century bit of British motorsport history and British car manufacturing history. One of the nice things about using it every day was that few people realised its value or what it was. It's a good price for a one of five bit of real history and someone will negotiate a good deal for it. Hopefully not a museum type collector. DonkeyApple said:
Hedgetrimmer said:
I think the Cerbera Speed 12 sold for what it was worth given how special it was but the 440 is too close to Tuscan and its a tough sell at £240k in this market.
It's only real closeness is the looks but it's not going to be bought by anyone who needs others to recognise its price tag, it's a true enthusiast's car and a very rare turn of the century bit of British motorsport history and British car manufacturing history. One of the nice things about using it every day was that few people realised its value or what it was. It's a good price for a one of five bit of real history and someone will negotiate a good deal for it. Hopefully not a museum type collector. Hedgetrimmer said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Agree. My Cerbera 4.5 was supposed to have 420bhp, but in reality you'd have been lucky if you got 360bhp(not that it ever felt slow though).
I remember Autocar road testing the 4.2 model, and they actually timed the 4.2 quicker than the 4.5...much to my disappointment if I'm honest!
That's because it had Peter Wheeler 5.4 AJP race engine fitted rather than a 4.2????. The same engine was fitted to the car Jeremy Clarkson drove.I remember Autocar road testing the 4.2 model, and they actually timed the 4.2 quicker than the 4.5...much to my disappointment if I'm honest!
I think the Cerbera Speed 12 sold for what it was worth given how special it was but the 440 is too close to Tuscan and its a tough sell at £240k in this market.
I only ask because I can show you my copy of the 1996 Autocar road testn which I still have. In that they said that they were suspicious about the performance figures achieved by the car (this is the same one which showed up in all the road tests) and dyno tested it to see if it was non standard. They said it made spot on the 350BHP it was advertised to have....its always intruiged me I have to say!!
Ri Orus2 said:
Another T440R was up for sale around 6 months to a year ago. The silver one, up scotland way i think.
Was originally listed for the same sort of money but then dropped to around £180K?
Did that one end up selling?
That would be the original T440 and technically the only car to be sold and leave the factory as a T440. Originally it went to Lawrence Tomlinson then up to Scotland where it had a couple of unfortunate misadventures over the years. Was originally listed for the same sort of money but then dropped to around £180K?
Did that one end up selling?
Hedgetrimmer said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Agree. My Cerbera 4.5 was supposed to have 420bhp, but in reality you'd have been lucky if you got 360bhp(not that it ever felt slow though).
I remember Autocar road testing the 4.2 model, and they actually timed the 4.2 quicker than the 4.5...much to my disappointment if I'm honest!
That's because it had Peter Wheeler 5.4 AJP race engine fitted rather than a 4.2????. The same engine was fitted to the car Jeremy Clarkson drove.I remember Autocar road testing the 4.2 model, and they actually timed the 4.2 quicker than the 4.5...much to my disappointment if I'm honest!
Byker28i said:
Hedgetrimmer said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Agree. My Cerbera 4.5 was supposed to have 420bhp, but in reality you'd have been lucky if you got 360bhp(not that it ever felt slow though).
I remember Autocar road testing the 4.2 model, and they actually timed the 4.2 quicker than the 4.5...much to my disappointment if I'm honest!
That's because it had Peter Wheeler 5.4 AJP race engine fitted rather than a 4.2????. The same engine was fitted to the car Jeremy Clarkson drove.I remember Autocar road testing the 4.2 model, and they actually timed the 4.2 quicker than the 4.5...much to my disappointment if I'm honest!
Ri Orus2 said:
Another T440R was up for sale around 6 months to a year ago. The silver one, up scotland way i think.
Was originally listed for the same sort of money but then dropped to around £180K?
Did that one end up selling?
Was listed at £150k about 10 years ago after a 'bodywork refresh', like you say for sale at £250k about a year ago, pretty sure it didn't sell, it was seen in Scotland in September on the TVR spotted forum Was originally listed for the same sort of money but then dropped to around £180K?
Did that one end up selling?
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