RE: Say hello to the new Volkswagen Golf GTI

RE: Say hello to the new Volkswagen Golf GTI

Wednesday 24th January

Say hello to the new Volkswagen Golf GTI

The Mk8.5 gets more power, is DSG only and comes with the option of real carbon fibre for the first time...


50 is a big anniversary whichever way it's cut: a golden wedding anniversary, a half-century, an excuse to throw a party (and reminisce about being 30). In automotive, 50 is enormous, because precious few nameplates remain relevant and desirable for so long. Now the Golf is part of that illustrious club, and VW is marking the occasion with a comprehensive update of the eighth-generation model. 

The big news for the regular variants is more power for the mild hybrid models and a significantly increased range for the plug-ins; the replacement of a 10.6kWh battery with a 19.7kWh should mean around 62 miles of EV range for the eHybrid and GTE, plus charging is faster. As with recent VW updates to the Passat and Tiguan, there’s a heavy emphasis on the electrified models (including a GTE that’s more powerful than the GTI, but more on that in a sec). 

That being said, the Golf has always been popular thanks to the sheer choice it tends to offer, and that continues for the Mk8.5: at launch there will be hatch and wagon, with a pure ICE 1.5 four-cylinder (115hp or 150hp) and 2.0 TDI (also 115hp or 150hp) available. Heck, there’s even a six-speed manual for those so inclined, alongside the familiar seven-speed dual-clutch and six-speed eDSG. 

There’s a slightly different look, too (including an illuminated VW logo at the front), although the biggest news for all Golfs comes inside thanks to an interior revision. Expect to hear much more about the developed-from-scratch MIB4 over the coming months, with its free-standing touchscreen, AI-enhanced voice assistant and - get this - illuminated touch sliders for the temperature and volume. Wonders will never cease.

VW says that operation ‘has been significantly improved and simplified’ for both the basic 10.4-inch and plusher 12.9-inch screen, thanks to a new menu structure and redone graphics. There are touch bars at the bottom and top that remain on screen no matter what else is going on, and individual shortcuts can be assigned. In cahoots with ‘very fast’ systems, you’ll hopefully not be left waiting too long this time for the function that’s been asked for. If all else fails, the return of proper steering wheel buttons ought to mean that a fair bit can be controlled from there. 

But let’s not get bogged down by interior details too much - it looks an improvement, and that’s a good thing. The important news from a PH perspective is that the GTI remains alive and well, and gets more power than ever in a standard model (265hp). It’s DSG only from now on, however, as predicted. Other than that it’s going to feel very similar, bar a new wheel design, not least because VW doesn’t go into significant detail. 

The facelifted model gets a mention right at the end of the Golf press release along with the GTE (now with 272hp), which draws attention to the honeycomb grille, twin exhaust and red accents. Partly that’s because the apple seemingly hasn’t fallen far from the tree, partly it’s because tastier morsels - the GTI Clubsport, the R and R estate among them - are being held for later. Still, the standard Mk8 GTI was already very decent to drive, - it was being a Golf that it didn’t really excel at. Hopefully, the updated interior, complete with 'optional interior applications in genuine carbon fibre' for the first time, will go some way to remedying that. 

“The Golf has been at the heart of the Volkswagen brand for half a century now, offering affordable mobility for all at the highest technical level. It has constantly adapted itself to customer needs and has thus become a global bestseller,” said Thomas Schäfer, VW’s CEO. 

“This is precisely what we are now building on with the latest evolutionary stage of the product line – with even higher efficiency, comfort and quality and a new operating concept. The Golf does not get any better than this.” Expect the Mk8.5 to be available to order very soon; if you're inclined to wait for the faster, pricier (i.e. better) stuff, VW says to expect them in the second half of 2024. 


 

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pacdes

Original Poster:

495 posts

162 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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I remember when they teased the R400. Since then they've brought nothing out I'd want.

Ham_and_Jam

2,242 posts

98 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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Yeah, I had the G7R and always felt teased by it. This doesn’t feel the game has moved on.

Ham_and_Jam

2,242 posts

98 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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Yeah, I had the G7R and always felt teased by it. This doesn’t feel the game has moved on.

LuS1fer

41,142 posts

246 months

Tuesday 23rd January
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Is the Golf the single most boring looking car in the world?

The door badge looks tacky and an impediment to washing, assuming you're not accidentally washing your neighbour's Golf.

xu5

641 posts

158 months

Wednesday 24th January
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Illuminated badges look naff, as do those door badges.

Master Bean

3,584 posts

121 months

Wednesday 24th January
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I'm getting Alfa wheel vibes.


Mercutio

213 posts

163 months

Wednesday 24th January
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I’m “only” in my early 40s , but maybe that’s enough for me to have turned grumpy , however I do look for and enjoy manual gearboxes in this class of car.

I realise however that this ship has perhaps sailed and that DSG with the right chassis, and overall setup of the car and engine, is sometimes more suited to the way the manufacturer has packaged and envisaged the car.

What I can never, ever understand is why every car in this segment has to have privacy glass as standard. It’s like a default in the UK, there is never ever a choice to not have it, and everyone I know tells me I’m mad for even noticing or complaining.

Why we can’t just have the option of clear glass is beyond me, especially when the humble car it comes from has the option to go without (in “lower” trims).

pacdes

Original Poster:

495 posts

162 months

Wednesday 24th January
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I remember when they teased the R400. Since then they've brought nothing out I'd want.

FeelingLucky

1,084 posts

165 months

Wednesday 24th January
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pacdes said:
I remember when they teased the R400. Since then they've brought nothing out I'd want.
say again?

IMI A

9,410 posts

202 months

Wednesday 24th January
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I like the wheels. If they release one with 400ps I'm in. Until then I'll stick with my beloved MK 7. Great GTI and our DSG 5 door PP 230bhp every bit as quick as our manual CS S 300bhp real world smile


Retro.74

204 posts

24 months

Wednesday 24th January
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Master Bean said:
I'm getting Alfa wheel vibes.

I'm a big fan of the teledials on an Alfa, but this style design don't look right or suit the Golf to me.

GTEYE

2,099 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th January
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In theory this should take the Golf 8.5 back to where the 7.5 was.

It seems that it fixes most of the things that they messed up with the original 8.

I was not a fan of the 8 when it was launched, and owned a 7.5 until a month ago. However, the general look of the 8 has become more acceptable to the point I actually think it looks pretty decent. The Mk7.5 I think now does look a bit dated.

If this is the last ICE Golf it looks like they’ve got it about right. I’m glad they still offer some diesels too, there is a place in the market for them. My recently acquired BMW 420d will do 750 miles on a tank and will easily get 60+mpg which is useful if you’re a high mileage driver.

Jon_S_Rally

3,424 posts

89 months

Wednesday 24th January
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It sounds like they've made some interior improvements, but I still struggle with the looks of the MK8. It's just not as well-proportioned or as cohesive as the MK7. It looks "off" and I just can't shake it. The GTI badges on the door, along with the illuminated VW badge isn't exactly adding to it either.

Dombilano

1,149 posts

56 months

Wednesday 24th January
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Alfa Romeo wheels?

pb8g09

2,348 posts

70 months

Wednesday 24th January
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Can’t get past the looks of the front, especially with the badge tat. Roland rat on the interior must agree too as he looks startled.

carinaman

21,331 posts

173 months

Wednesday 24th January
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Retro.74 said:
Master Bean said:
I'm getting Alfa wheel vibes.

I'm a big fan of the teledials on an Alfa, but this style design don't look right or suit the Golf to me.
I hadn't made any links with the Alfa but love the 5 hole teledials on the MK6 GTi.

I'd agree with a previous poster that the door badge is a bit tacky.

I liked the headlamp bulb cover with the VW logo on it on the MK6.

Xenoous

1,024 posts

59 months

Wednesday 24th January
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MOOSECORTINA

174 posts

80 months

Wednesday 24th January
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It is not electric - winner.

fantheman80

1,453 posts

50 months

Wednesday 24th January
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Wheels are a slight nod back to the mk5 monza, with a touch of Alfa and a sprinkling of Octavia vrs.

As a hot hatch fan I look forward to reading about the golf R and edition 50 (which surely should be a greatest hits, Pirelli alloys, mk2 16v royal green colour, mk7 interior ha) but too expensive now really

Bobupndown

1,831 posts

44 months

Wednesday 24th January
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pb8g09 said:
Can’t get past the looks of the front, especially with the badge tat. Roland rat on the interior must agree too as he looks startled.
Exactly. Thought they would have fixed the abysmal front end of the mk8, sadly not.